Agios vs Super Silver

[Fezzih_007]

Power Nullification: Time Power can nullify[2] the powers & abilities of comparable or weaker[37] Time Power users,[37] can also nullify any attack and ability that comes towards them.[42] Its energy[8][64] passively[37] nullifies powers[37] and[37] seals away abilities.[37] The power can nullify powers & abilities via other means, either by reverting everything back to their previous state,[2] or manipulate fate itself. Freeze is a time-stopping spell which also nullifies its victim's abilities[65]

Can nullify a bunch of Silver things.

 

[Omegabronic]

can null telekinesis, his energy projection, basically everything that he can use

I don't see that in the page for it

 

[Omegabronic]

Power Nullification: Time Power can nullify[2] the powers & abilities of comparable or weaker[37] Time Power users,[37] can also nullify any attack and ability that comes towards them.[42] Its energy[8][64] passively[37] nullifies powers[37] and[37] seals away abilities.[37] The power can nullify powers & abilities via other means, either by reverting everything back to their previous state,[2] or manipulate fate itself. Freeze is a time-stopping spell which also nullifies its victim's abilities[65]

Can nullify a bunch of Silver things.

Honestly can't all of silver's stuff in there

 

[AStrangeverse]

Honestly can't all of silver's stuff in there

we discussed this, shit like Time Power and Dark Ki can null all DB powers, which largely consists of what Silver has

that's why his match against Keysword Trunks was a stomp in Trunks favor

 

[Ss3micah]

Is this debate still going?
If so then what are Silver’s Wincons?
And can he reach them before Agios just Hax Stomps?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Is this debate still going?
If so then what are Silver’s Wincons?
And can he reach them before Agios just Hax Stomps?

Silver don't have wincons, people here are like, nitpicking each other now.
Agios totally hax stomp.

 

[Robo432343]

Agios totally hax stomp.

then why'd u make this thread loool

 

[Fezzih_007]

then why'd u make this thread loool

I trought they could do something, but then i realized they gonna get dunked on to the ground.

 

[speedster352]

We need this thread closed

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Silver just gets passively power nulled and then EE'D or getting frozen

 

[Omegabronic]

we discussed this, shit like Time Power and Dark Ki can null all DB powers, which largely consists of what Silver has

that's why his match against Keysword Trunks was a stomp in Trunks favor

Honestly, people should organize what power null nulls better, to avoid confusion like that

 

[Omegabronic]

Yep, this is stupid and i shall stop, i will ask for this to be closed, because it is honestly kind of sad

 

[Ss3micah]

Honestly, people should organize what power null nulls better, to avoid confusion like that

Honestly
No one does that lol
I can’t think of a single profile that comes to mind that specifically lists what powers power null nulls

But yeah
Dark Ki Null, TP Null and CS Null has an extensive list of Hax that they null
I believe I mentioned this list to you at one point in the Hearts vs Shadow thread

Yep, this is stupid and i shall stop, i will ask for this to be closed, because it is honestly kind of sad

Welp it was fun while it lasted
Can’t wait to see the next DBH vs Sonic matchup lol

 

[Fezzih_007]

I gonna get the least haxed dbh char to put on a fight.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I gonna get the least haxed dbh char to put on a fight.

It'd prolly be fine if you waited to we gave some Sonic characters layered resistance to Power Null + some other stuff that make them significantly tougher to deal with.

 

[Omegabronic]

Honestly
No one does that lol
I can’t think of a single profile that comes to mind that specifically lists what powers power null nulls

But yeah
Dark Ki Null, TP Null and CS Null has an extensive list of Hax that they null
I believe I mentioned this list to you at one point in the Hearts vs Shadow thread

I should honestly do a general wiki revisiom based on that tbh lol

Welp it was fun while it lasted
Can’t wait to see the next DBH vs Sonic matchup lol

Please no, never gonna work lol

 

[AStrangeverse]

Honestly, people should organize what power null nulls better, to avoid confusion like that

agreed tbh

 

[Ss3micah]

I should honestly do a general wiki revisiom based on that tbh lol

Honestly it would be extensive work that no one would ever want to deal with lol
I can’t imagine the verse supporters taking the time to make a list of Hax that the verses power null can null

For Example:
TSB In Naruto is stated to be able to null all forms of Ninjutsu
Ninjutsu in Naruto covers an extensive variety of Hax that takes on different shapes and forms. And then you’d have to list all those Hax for TSB power null. Ain’t nobody got time for that

Please no, never gonna work lol

Then just put Composite DBH vs Composite Sonic lol
That should be fun considering that as haxed as DBH is, most of their powers revolves around the same energy system and CS mechanics and it has the lower pool of characters to pick from

While sonic thou under Hax has a greater pool of character to pull from and a more extensive list of abilities since they all don’t get their Hax from the same power system

It could legit be a fun debate lol

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Then just put Composite DBH vs Composite Sonic lol

Have Metal Sonic be the appearance/representative for Composite Sonic since he's the funni copy dude

 

[Vietthai96]

Time Power power null is strongest power null in the verse, it can null every abilities in verse, from its own power to every power from special ki manipulation page (on phone so i can't link it). The only thing it can't null is thing that still not exist in verse, like Concept hax. Also like many other "lesser", "basic" power null in the verse, aside from directly nullify power, it can seal its victim ability to use their hax, so it don't directly nullify power, the opponent's power still there, Time Power just seal away its victims ability to use it, make them can't draw out their power

 

[Remus1998]

Tbf, stamina might not be an issue since the Emeralds just refuel the user if they run out of stamina, plus Super Silver should be getting a resistance to power null soon.

They do?

Was gonna go looking for other feats involving power null. It prolly is layered, but I'll get back to that after some looking. But it will be a resistance to 5D Conceptual power null soon enough.

Why do I feel like this is made up

 

[LaserPrecision]

They do?

Why do I feel like this is made up

Yeah. Emeralds brought Sonic back from death and unconsciousness and turned him Super.

What part? The resistance? It's a part of my doc for a CRT I have planned. Expect to see it soon. It's pretty hype.

 

[Omegabronic]

Honestly it would be extensive work that no one would ever want to deal with lol
I can’t imagine the verse supporters taking the time to make a list of Hax that the verses power null can null

For Example:
TSB In Naruto is stated to be able to null all forms of Ninjutsu
Ninjutsu in Naruto covers an extensive variety of Hax that takes on different shapes and forms. And then you’d have to list all those Hax for TSB power null. Ain’t nobody got time for that

Accuracy >>>>> anyone's happiness

Then just put Composite DBH vs Composite Sonic lol
That should be fun considering that as haxed as DBH is, most of their powers revolves around the same energy system and CS mechanics and it has the lower pool of characters to pick from

While sonic thou under Hax has a greater pool of character to pull from and a more extensive list of abilities since they all don’t get their Hax from the same power system

It could legit be a fun debate lol

oh, pherhaps, there is some threads in the making, this could work

 

[Fezzih_007]

Man, this reaches 2 Pages and even trought this is a stomp lol.

 

[Quantu]

Well for the idea of a composite battle, I just quickly added the abilities of composite DB (Games) verse into a sandbox, I'm pretty sure composite Sonic still gets stomped...

Quantu/Sandbox2

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[AwkguyDB]

Stomp and close and yeah I see people bringing up scaling..............let's just wait for the SSJG multiplier thread because it's about to be ridiculous how much above Baseline some of these characters are before we even step into god tiers

 

[Vietthai96]

who is dat in ur pfp

Elysia from Honkai Impact 3rd

 

[Fezzih_007]

Well for the idea of a composite battle, I just quickly added the abilities of composite DB (Games) verse into a sandbox, I'm pretty sure composite Sonic still gets stomped...

Quantu/Sandbox2

vsbattles.fandom.com

Wow, there's some abilities that i don't even know existed on the wiki.
And which character in Dragon Ball have
Broadway Force?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Well for the idea of a composite battle, I just quickly added the abilities of composite DB (Games) verse into a sandbox, I'm pretty sure composite Sonic still gets stomped...

Quantu/Sandbox2

vsbattles.fandom.com

*Composite Game Sonic, Composite Sonic gets SMT and Archie hax that are well above anything displayed in DB and stomps, period.

Having to switch continuities to beat Game Sonic pathetic.

 

[Roun12]

Wow, there's some abilities that i don't even know existed on the wiki.
And which character in Dragon Ball have
Broadway Force?

Arale and the Xenoverse 2 Future Warrior with Dancing Parapara.

 

[Quantu]

*Composite Game Sonic, Composite Sonic gets SMT and Archie hax that are well above anything displayed in DB and stomps, period.

Having to switch continuities to beat Game Sonic pathetic.

Well duh, this is a games vs games thread

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Well duh, this is a games vs games thread

I mean SMT is still a game but I digress lol!

 

[Fezzih_007]

I mean SMT is still a game but I digress lol!

What hax he gain exactly? I look at the game here, and can't find the exact haxes.

 

[Roun12]

I've heard that SMT Sonic might not actually scale to the 1-A stuff.

What hax he gain exactly? I look at the game here, and can't find the exact haxes.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cognitive_Physiology

 

[Ss3micah]

Composite Game Sonic

Lol just composite game sonic lol
Its games vs games

Composite Sonic gets SMT

How is sonic affiliated with SMT?

and Archie hax that are well above anything displayed in DB and stomps, period.

Honestly including Archie stuff might actually make the matchup a bit more interesting ASSUMING you'd equalize stats otherwise

 

[Fezzih_007]

How is sonic affiliated with SMT?

Sonic appears in one of the games, apparently.

 

[Ss3micah]

Sonic appears in one of the games, apparently.

Ironically
Sonic also appeared in Dr. Slump and raced with Arale lol

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I've heard that SMT Sonic might not actually scale to the 1-A stuff.


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cognitive_Physiology

Hench why I said hax not tier from what I understand SMT Sonic would get the low tier/Low 2-C (arguably) mid tier/Low 1-C hax, funny enough SMT Dante and I think SMT Guts are ones with the 1-A/high tier hax.

Honestly including Archie stuff might actually make the matchup a bit more interesting ASSUMING you'd equalize stats otherwise

Let's be honest it'll devolve into plot hax/4th wall awareness Vs plot hax/4th wall awareness lol!

Sonic appears in one of the games, apparently.

The mobile game alongside Bayonetta, Nero, Guts and a few other noteworthy characters.

 

[Omegabronic]

What hax he gain exactly? I look at the game here, and can't find the exact haxes.

1-A smurf hax

 

[JJSliderman]

Saying Super forms have power null resistance sounds really sus when that’s what happened in Unleashed