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Ahhh, in that case you're correct yeah
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Agios vs Super Silver
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Fezzih_007
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Ok, this one is my B, but i gonna make another match that works, i don't think that is Impossible.
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ain't gonna entertain this, cuz this is a stomp, but I will say that you should just wait for the scaling blog to be made
ss3micah mentioned they'd create it
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i understand, have a nice day
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no, you have an even better day
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He is actually right about the scaling. But you're completely right about this being a Classic era thing. She in particular ain't even close to that value. She's baseline like the other Super's. Tho this is Super Silver now. So the scaling should be applicable.
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doubt, cuz y'all said quadrillions when asked and didn't even mention the immeasurable part
and about the immeasurable part, where does that even come from, cuz I don't think 2-A grants that level of AP, but rather range
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Sonic recently got an upgrade. That's why the value is higher. Keep in mind tho that we're simplifying, since past quadrillion, people don't tend to remember the name of really large numbers. And I believe we mentioned both speed AND AP in the Hearts thread. We had a whole debate on why Super Shadow was faster than Hearts and why Shadow could use an amp in speed equal.
What do you mean by this question?
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It's a work in progress
Im waiting for the SSG and UIO multipliers to be accepted before going any further
As of now I've stopped at the Universe Conflict Saga with Octillions above baseline levels of 2-A scaling and that's only using accepted multipliers
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Looking in the scaling blog to give rough estimates of how many times above Baseline Super's are in speed and ap. It's not complete, but it'll have to work for now (It's gonna get overhauled a LOT if my crt's for the verse go through)
Unless I made a mistake in my math:
Speed = 1.5414258e+23x Baseline Immeasurable (For now)
AP is harder since I suck at converting exafoe shit to joules, so I'll have to leave that for someone else. Tho that value is also gonna change too due to CRT's. If both CRT's get accepted, Sonic will be infinitely above baseline in Speed and AP.
Unless I made a mistake in my math:
Speed = 1.5414258e+23x Baseline Immeasurable (For now)
AP is harder since I suck at converting exafoe shit to joules, so I'll have to leave that for someone else. Tho that value is also gonna change too due to CRT's. If both CRT's get accepted, Sonic will be infinitely above baseline in Speed and AP.
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I know, but he was only faster cuz of the supposed 54x speed amp, which I don't even think we concluded that debate
it's hard to argue DBH being superior stat-wise when the blog ain't even made, so there's not much I can say
I mean, as in why do you agree that Sonic 2-A's are somehow immeasurably above baseline with a countable scaling to go along with it, when y'all haven't provided proof for the basis of immeasurable
and for the second bit, DC scaled to infinite*infinite above baseline 2-A, but that was reduced to just range, since you'd need further proof and elaboration for the feat
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Oh, it's not just the 54x amp. It's cuz of all the power creeps in the game.
Ig we should wait until blogs for DBH and Sonic are done before we claim anything, eh?
I don't think I said think the 2-A's are immeasurably above Baseline. Just really far above it finitely.
That's for the structure of the cosmology. Not scaling.
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no no, I meant that you agreed with omega being right about the scaling, and he included the immeasurable part in there
I know
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Oh, I didn't even see the immeasurable part he said. I was talking about the crazy values. It should actually be a lot higher tbf, but we're currently looking through the Sonic games for scaling, tho that will be rendered pointless eventually since Super will eventually become Infinitely above Baseline.
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I was actually waiting for the blog to be made before doing this match, but i ended up doing this battle anyway.
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you should really wait, otherwise we'll just go in circles when arguing stats
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Sure
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excuse me? i did what now?
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this, this is what you did
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Oh, he meant that many times above Baseline Immeasurable speed tier.
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we were talking about AP, not speed
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i said baseline immeasurable speed, i was talking about speed, not AP
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no you didn't bro, and no we weren't
you said this in response to what I said, which was about AP, not speed
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I was answering about the other part about speed, not ap, hence why i asked about the immeasurable speed and not used "2-B/A" wording
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then why'd you word to where it could be interpreted as AP, especially after my post
that's, wtf
brain
that's, wtf
brain
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nothing
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shit is unfair asf lol, i can imagine silver trying to blitz agios and then just being totally stripped of every power about to have a heart attack because of stamina reduction LMAO. Stamina gone, all abilities gone, frozen in time, then blinked out of existence.
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She can't null every power tho, the most thing here is the flight null, plus the fact that he may or may not have the ap and speed advantage, who knows? There is no accepted blog for anyone to comfirm
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Dude, time power literally nulls everything silver has passively, why limited to just flight, silver will have 0 stamina
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Tbf, stamina might not be an issue since the Emeralds just refuel the user if they run out of stamina, plus Super Silver should be getting a resistance to power null soon.
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its still layered, so it likely won't matter, depending on how good his resistance is
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Already covered in every dbh vs sonic thread, super forms regen stamina too fast for it to reach 0, also from what i saw time power does not null everything silver has whatsoever
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Was gonna go looking for other feats involving power null. It prolly is layered, but I'll get back to that after some looking. But it will be a resistance to 5D Conceptual power null soon enough.
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what powers cant she null?
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I dunno, from what i saw time power nulls the powers of other time power if it is weaker, time powet doesn't have of silver's abbilities listed for it
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can null telekinesis, his energy projection, basically everything that he can use
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