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There's more Tier 2 feats.

Vampire King's essence being able to "kaboom reality off it's whack" which presumably means mess up the structure of the multiverse or the universe they're in if you want to say Bonnie doesn't know about alternate realities. The only thing I find iffy about this is that it did actually blow up and the only thing damaged was Bonnie's house.

There's also Finn being a dreamer of an alternate reality in Puhoy but it isn't really combat applicable.

Chatsberry's feat could be a 4-A pocket dimension, it was stated that the elementals did have their own realms in the Enchiridion and also dreams in Adventure Time are arguably alternate realities due to the fact that the Cosmic Owl actually has to travel to said place and when the Cosmic Owl was once in a dream and the actual person dreaming woke up, the realm remained the same and didn't dissipate. This fits well with the Dreamer concept .

There's Prismo.

There's the wish magic. Which could mean Evergreen to be upgraded to 2-A with the crown's wish magic.

There's Ice King Finn who was said by Prismo to be able to damage the structure of existence.

In the comics, Bonnie said one of her chemical reactions could destroy the space-time continuum.

There's Death who rules over 50 infinite planes.
 
Also can't we derive durability from the Puhoy feat? Since dreams are full-fledged realities in AT and Finn actually experienced all of his life within the Pillow Dimensions, and at the end of the episode he survives Pillow Dimension collapsing.

It wouldn't scale to AP, rather Dream Manipulation but ig durability could work here.
 
@Emperor

Also is the other String Theory issue canon? The one where Cinamon Bun got stuck inbetween strings so PB summoned Schrodinger's Cat to get him out.
 
The context is a bit different. Dreams aren't alternate universes because everyone in the series is casually Low 2-C, but because of how raw imagination often affects reality itself due to The Cosmic Imaginatio.

So it's not really with their own power but idk how to rate it otherwise.
 
What about the Dreamers though.

There's a Dreamer who dreams the 2-A multiverse than a Dreamer who dreams him. The Enchiridion then asks "who dreams who?" then goes onto answer "It doesn't matter" or something like that.

Then a few people in this thread are saying the dreams are only part of The Cosmic Imaginatio.
 
Isn't the imagination supposed to be all of reality? Obviously dreamers create universes, but it's not exactly with their own powers.

Of course I haven't read the book in awhile so I dunno if I forgot something.
 
Well it appears that depends on who is dreaming at the time I suppose, since you have Finn who dreams the Puhoy Dimension and then you have the endless cycle of Dreamers where each Dreamer dreams the previous one (Dreamception basically)
 
Yeah the imagination is all of reality.

The Enchiridion states however that the a "Dreamer" or "Sleeper" dreams "our universe" which in this context would mean the multiverse right? If so a Dreamer dreams a 2-A multiverse and another dreamer dreams that.

Or would it just be a singular universe? It does say a "In a nearby dimension, a sleeping being" which leads me to think it's a singular universe but then "perhaps that which dreams our universe, that which slumbers beneath the surface of Reality".

I think these are the fundamental questions here.
 
@Emperor uhh it's mind buggling

But I would stick to my "theory" on how there is simply a hierarchy of Dreamers, like the lesser ones dreams universes while the higher ones dreams the Multiverse and each other (like you know, Umineko-esque transcendence shenanigans)
 
Well, the thing about the Sleepers is that the Universes created by them don't seem to be contained just within their consciousness and transcended by them or something like that, considering Finn actually passes through the Void wherein GOLB resides and meets GOLB himself before he awakes from the Pillow Dimension in Puhoy.

There is also the fact that the Sleeper which is said to dream the Adventure Time Universe (?) into existence is also said to be sleeping "in a nearby reality", and is eventually killed by a Catalyst Comet. The statement about him dreaming "beneath the surface of reality itself" could just mean that he is the one responsible for creating that reality through his Dreams.

So I am overall more inclined to believe that the Sleepers don't actually transcend these Universes or anything like that, I think they just create these Worlds by dreaming because the very nature of reality in AT is malleable and capable of being reshaped by the perception and imagination of living beings, kind of like how the Enchiridion states that the only reason the Multiverse still exists in the End of Time is the fact that there are still two living beings who are capable of perceiving it (The Book itself and "The Reader")
 
I forgot to mention Jake also survives going past the Big Bang in Beginning of The End ( albeit offscreen) so there's that.
 
So Adventure time is solipsism
 
Yeah p much

Also there's something I was wondering if we use comics for feats about n Marceline goes adrift Marceline is able to generate energy to move an island to "travel halfway across the galaxy". There's no define timeframe but I wanted to know if this could be calced and could it scale to best girl's speed https://imgur.com/a/wmMLhTP
 
Hunson Abadeer can make time portals

https://imgur.com/a/wlDso47

https://imgur.com/a/XlgSTYf

https://imgur.com/a/UYrjneh

https://imgur.com/a/MSYCEvZ

https://imgur.com/a/vFAtQP2

https://imgur.com/a/ZKlfA5D

Can make a Viewing Portal

https://imgur.com/a/jPzffST

https://imgur.com/a/AtrMemv

https://imgur.com/a/UlQnq8L

Can communicate with his future self

https://imgur.com/a/n1INOvM

Marceline

Can sense magic

https://imgur.com/a/RoOZFk7

https://imgur.com/a/qgQeZlN

https://imgur.com/a/ZzXTPaR

Can remember everything as an immortal

https://imgur.com/a/4ZdaBol

Spent Centuries learning everything she coukd

https://imgur.com/a/iyI3tYI

Has three "Robot" companions

https://imgur.com/a/K2tvqyE

Have lasers

https://imgur.com/a/a7xkdbY

Can project images

https://imgur.com/a/PFu5RCN

Can harvest memories

https://imgur.com/a/mZzqVlW

https://imgur.com/a/kxTCVew

https://imgur.com/a/7MN6XVg

Possible disintegration

https://imgur.com/sro38xa

Princess Bubblegum

Has sensors that can detect portals

https://imgur.com/a/tE2dYTu

has Electro weapons

https://imgur.com/a/ps6l3nl

Including

Zazmo Cannon

https://imgur.com/a/rpO0lE5

Shocko Bombs

https://imgur.com/a/PvP1LTS

https://imgur.com/a/tUC3SJp

Beam shooters

https://imgur.com/a/cZmmMao

Huntress Wizard

can transform

https://imgur.com/a/ugBFnvo

Finn has a new sword

https://imgur.com/a/FOdIKJW

Jake

Can turn into a slingshot

https://imgur.com/a/vVzuyio

and a Bulldozer

https://imgur.com/a/ggMVulA

Humans have advanced technology

Forcefield

https://imgur.com/a/lUnB2XX

Digi resin

https://imgur.com/a/qP7O5Go

Robots that can break through the walls of humantown

https://imgur.com/a/2BaRHKZ

https://imgur.com/a/BsrXohQ

Minerva bot

Could sense how much Fin had grown

https://imgur.com/a/OoeOQfo

Can track signals and block them

https://imgur.com/a/sZ3NN8R

https://imgur.com/a/1y9dhMm
 
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