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Yes, they both have resistance to time manipulation but destroying space, time, and reality is another thing
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Additional Kurumi feats for VSBW
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Yeah, she could get space-time manipulation but not rw
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She had to block the ability though
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Someone recently proved that she uses space-time manipulation, you can also check the "Zaphkiel Compilation" video if you don't believe me, that space appeared when Kurumi summoned Zaphkiel
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wiki itself isn't a reliable source. what you need is the direct source from the novel itself
also, it's a large country, possibly a continent-level. Based on this approved calc. I think this is good already since she only high 7-A
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and don't spam your reply
also, it's a large country, possibly a continent-level. Based on this approved calc. I think this is good already since she only high 7-A
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Except its not Kurumi's...its Mio's. Kurumi's Spacequake at best only cover tens of kilometer.
Nu uh, thats only FTL.
Durability doesn't work like that, it would only be resistance to space/time hax.
The rest is fine
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I know, and why should I doubt it when she's my waifu? Also I followed this verse with both DAL & DAB.
Fezzih_007
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Again, that is flowery lenguage, a bunch of writers uses to describe a character moving super fast with instant.
Yes? I i can see that.
I asking for you to say what the level of power that would be.
Yeah, i din't find It.
If you mean when she stop time, that's not a speed feat.
Yeah, spartial Manipulation can do that, as i said
That's just hax, not attack potency.
I never said she can't manipulated, i saying you don't provide the evidence that she destroyed Time along with space.
Sure?
Again, time by itself is not a concept, unless you have any more statements of that being the case.
The scan provide you provide makes 0 mentiosn of she afecting concepts. Even If she can erase space, that's not Concept Manipulation, since she is just affecting a small part of reality.
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She scales higher than 7-A due to concept erasure and and several other factors but I'm covering feats this timewiki itself isn't a reliable source. what you need is the direct source from the novel itself
and don't spam your reply
also, it's a large country, possibly a continent-level. Based on this approved calc. I think this is good already since she only high 7-A
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No, Kurumi has the most Reiryoku out of all the spirits, (Equivalent to Mio) and the spacequake used would atleast be similar to the one showed there, and how can a calamity cover only a couple kilometres? How does that make sense?
Not FTL, MFTL+ she moves Instantaneously, both the scan and the view clip proved it
Durability is the ability to withstand certain attacks without faltering, you can block something and still die despite blocking it, but instead she nullified the ability completely
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It shaves away space and reality leaving only a white space, and anything which comes in contact with it gets instantly destroyed regardless of what it is, they also stated that Zaphkiel and Lucifugus are similar which also means that Lucifugus also controls time
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So you agree?
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They never said instantly they say Instantaneously, which is basically the same as instant, which is immeasurable speed, it's also proven in the series
I said the destruction level is continental and it erases everything in it's radius beyond time and space, isn't that also on VSBW?
Wdym you couldn't find the video?
Now you have no excuses for immeasurable speed
I never said it wasn't a spatial kind of ability
The attack potency is the speed and radius of the attack
Fine then, I'll show another scan
I wasn't unsure
If you think time isn't a concept... https://www.google.com/search?q=is+...msung-ga-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
The second scan clearly stated it erases space, reality (And distorting reality is a 4D concept, due to the bending of space-time)
And in the LN most of the space and reality in the area got erased...
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Nitpicking my words
Again, saying a character moved instantaneously is not immesurable speed, not only the word used can be flowery lenguage, you would need more proof that what she did was immerasuble speed.
Yeah, you said is continental, but you need say what level of power that is.
Like, how many teratons of TNT It is.
I did, i din't find anything in the video that is immerasuble speed trought.
I not saying time is not concept, i saying you don't provide the evidence that she is affecting the concept of time or space.
Because just affecting Time and Space on its own is not ground to say is Conceptual Manipulation.
Is this wiki, is not no. Is not in this Wiki atleast.
Saying is 4D, you gonna more proof than that.
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I already gave you proof, but first did you read the second scan? And the video I sent you, didn't you see when Kurumi disappeared instantly after she used Aleph?
And I said I'm not Death Battle, no one else is asking for that so why are you? You should ask them as they are explosion scientists
You are changing your words, and conceptual meaning the ability to affect concepts, space-time is a concept, reality is a concept and existence is also a concept and it has the ability to erase them
Ok
1) https://www.google.com/search?q=wha...JIHBTIuNC4yoAfEGQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
2) https://www.google.com/search?q=is+...AYIkgcDMS4yoAevDQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
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Need approved calculations.
There is no such thing as conceptual level durability in this wiki. It's should be moved to resistance, also effecting space-time doesn't equal to effecting concept of Space-Time. So only resistance to Space-Time.
Neutral on this.
Agree.
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Someone else approved it
It's just like how you would say city level durability to withstand certain things, conceptual level because she could withstand a concept level attack, also there's no resistance section in Kurumi VSBW only a durability section
The Neighbouring World's system couldn't identify Kurumi's abilities
Godsatoshi23
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Link?
Well that's not how this wiki works. There is no profile in this wiki says conceptual level durability, even if they withstand a conceptual attack it just moved to resistance section. If there is no resistance section then add it.
I misread the last part. I agree with resistance to information analysis.
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The proof you have me is lacking, as i said above, you need more.
What second Scan? You only posted one scan saying she can move "Instantaneously", which is not nearly enough to say is immerasuble speed.
You claiming that she can destroy a continent, so you also need proof on how much energy that power is generating to be accepted. If not, we can't accept she is continental.
And people are actually asking to do so.
Again, you can ask someone to do the calculation for you.
I not.
Again, on this wiki, affecting Time and Space is not affecting the concept of time and Space, and you Scan don't mention anything about Kurumi erasing concepts.
Erasing space is not Conceptual Manipulation, is just spartial manipulation.
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Is that supposed to be a joke? If it is, I'm not laughing. Mio literally stated to have 999 reiryoku while Kurumi is barely 220.
The spacequake you shown is literally Mio's and not Kurumi's.
Wdym with "how can a calamity cover only a couple kilometres? How does that make sense?"? Do you genuinely not read the series? How do you expect people to survive from a literal space explosion reaching kilometers which can randomly appear?
You could still move instantaneously and be Subsonic too.
Durability in this wiki is measured in terms of energy/Joule.
Tanking a hax wouldn't be a durability feat but rather resistance.
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They approved it here
And you cannot modify VSBW without their permission, so that section cannot be added
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Resistances go in the "Powers and Abilities" section. Literally look at any profile with listed resistances and you'll see they are in the Powers and Abilities section.
Even Kurumi's own profile has her resistances listed in her P&A right at the end of it
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Nonsense, I posted another scan along with it, and I also updated it recently and added 2 more
Find out what the word Instantaneous means then we can discuss this
I gave you proof of pic and video from DAL directly, that should be enough
They are not interested in calculating something unnecessary
You did
Well, maybe you don't know what are concepts, so apparently you misunderstand space-time and reality not being a concept, even with proof
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huh?
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The spacequake Mio used happened globally, it doesn't necessarily determine the size of the calamity, and Kurumi has enough spirit power to make such a calamity as she could summon a spacequake even when low on Reiryoku, and after defeating the other spirits
And Mio was stated to have 999 Reiryoku because she's the spirit of origin, that still doesn't change the fact that Kurumi still has an enormous amount of Reiryoku and time
Prove that, any speed which travels normally cannot be called Instantaneous, you can use time stop as an example
No, one of the feats they mentioned were how Kurumi could withstand blows from Mana which wasn't even a blast, it's similar how Kurumi could tank a conceptual ability from White Queen
And again, there's no resistance section in VSBW
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It's true that Kurumi has the most Reiryoku among the spirits, (Mio being an exception) summoning spacequakes even on low Reiryoku defeating the other spirits and even could've killed Kotori
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Who? It should be accepted by calculation member.
There is nothing to add. Resistance page alredy exist in Vs wiki. Just add it to the profile if it's not there.
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I went there, and I didn't find what you said, all I see is in the powers and stats section is physical characteristics being first which has nothing to do with withstanding a conceptual attack
And I don't see any P&A either
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He showed spacequake blast scan proving that it is continental
And resistance is passive, Kurumi blocked the attack
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That is not even a section that's a mind control resistance feat, we know it's resistance because she automatically negates it, Kurumi tanking White Queens <Arie> was not automatic
Buy glasses. Literally on Kurumi's profile.
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The point is: Resistances have to be listed there, not in durability.
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Yeah, the scan you provide is not enough for immerasuble speed.
I did, again, having immerasuble speed would need way more proof, than just the word instantaneous for to be accepted. Because, Instantaneous is either just Infinite speed, or just a way of saying the character moved super fast, but not nescessary they are movie at infinite levels of speed.
Which as i already explained, is not good proof.
You gave me a 4 minutes vídeo, and din't provide me the timestamp to what time of the video the supposed immerasuble speed feat occurs.
If you talking about the moment where Kurumi is telerporting around to beat up Mana, that's her just time stop, that's not immerasuble speed.
It is nescessary, and you din't even ask so you can't even say that as true fact lol.
Yeah sure did
I not sure If i not explaining properly, i gonna make simple than.
So there's ways to affect time and Space.
1- You just affect time and Space
2- You affect the concept of time and Space
The Scan you provide just say she affect Space, not the concept of one.
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Buy glasses
Buy glasses. Literally on Kurumi's profile.
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I mean the blog, where it is? And also speed.
Look at this profile. You can either make separate tabler or write it in the same one.
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And the point is that it's not a resistance
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Why?
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Even if it's passive it is added in the resistance section, as long as attack is done by hax, and there is no way to calculate that attack like space-time.
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Those are physical attacks, not haxes.
Enduring physical attacks --> feat is listed in Durability
Unaffected by hax/powers --> feat is listed as Resistance in the Powers and Abilities
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