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Adding Super Saiyan God and SSGSS To Toei Goku

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Hello everyone, I've done many CRT's in the past, but this will be my first time touching on Dragon Ball, which is a topic just as hectic as Naruto and Bleach, but I'm taking my shot here. So GL to me.

Toei Goku has feats taken from all movies, except for Movie 14 and 15 for some reason. Sure, the movies get adapted to their own anime arcs, but that doesn't retcon the movie, as just like the previous 13 movies, we treat the movies as their own continuity. If the DBS manga got their own profiles despite the Battle Of Gods anime being somewhat similar, then there shouldn't be a reason that the Movie 14 and Movie 15 forms shouldn't be added to Toei Goku. If differences are needed to distinguish them separately, I'll put down the major differences between the anime arcs and both the movies, taken from Reddit.

Battle of Gods film vs. Battle of Gods arc


  1. In the film, the God of Destruction Beerus wakes up on Bulma's birthday but in the arc, he has been awake several days prior and has searched and destroyed a certain amount of the universe's planets.
  2. With Beerus' fight against Goku, in the film, Goku displays his first two forms, Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2, then fights Beerus in Super Saiyan 3. However, in the arc, Goku fights Beerus in all three forms. In Dragon Ball Super, the fight is dragged out so Goku could display these forms to Beerus, so Beerus did nothing but dodge the entirety of episode 5 but he still knocked him out in two hits. In the film, Goku went all out from the start and Beerus didn't hold back.
  3. The Pilaf Gang explained why they are the way they are in the film but in the arc, Toei completely ignored that part. The film also showed that they remember Goku when they encountered Goten but since Goten is not Goku, he didn't know who they were, this too was ignored. Trunks also showed interest in Mai in the film but this was completely ignored in the arc.
  4. When the Dragon Team fights Beerus, Vegeta faces Beerus and when Beerus slaps Bulma she slapped him, Vegeta goes into a rage state and attacks Beerus. In the film, Muten Roshi says that at this moment, Vegeta has gotten even stronger than Goku. In the arc, Beerus says he used more power against Vegeta than he did Goku, indirectly.
  5. The Super Saiyan God ritual is different. In the film, Tarble was suggested by Bulma to be the last Saiyan to be able to perform the ritual but Vegeta did know where he was. In the arc, he was not mentioned all. The actual ritual is different too but not drastically different.
  6. The battle between Super Saiyan God Goku and Beerus is different. In the film, Goku and Beerus did not destroy planets around while fighting in space, however, in the arc, a multitude of planets was destroyed because of the amount of power Goku and Beerus were doing. At the end of their battle, in the arc, Beerus does not mention that his attendant, Whis, is master and stronger than he is to Goku. He even doesn't make the remark about the 12 universes and that Goku is the second strongest opponent he has ever faced, as the first is obviously now known as Monaka (just kidding, it's Whis.) However, in the Dragon Ball Super Vol. 1. manga, Beerus does tell Goku that Whis is his master and stronger than he is and mentions the other 11 universes. Toyotaro adds a page that Beerus returns to Goku moments later and tells him that
  7. In the film, after the battle between Goku and Beerus, Beerus returns to his planet and Whis says that Beerus used nearly 70% of his power against Goku however in the arc, Whis doesn't that much but says he didn't use all of his power.
  8. In the film, after the battle between Goku and Beerus, Beerus spares the Earth, while in the arc, he pretends to fall asleep where Whis would lie about him forgetting the battle and destroying the Earth.
Resurrection F vs. Resurrection F arc

  1. When Sorbet and Tagoma go to Earth to retrieve the Dragon Balls to revive their leader, Freeza, all three wishes were used in the arc of Super. However in the film, two of the wishes were used and the third and last wish was used later after Freeza destroys North City while on Earth, which explains why Freeza trained for 4 months.
  2. When revived, Freeza doesn't mention in the arc that he would receive a power level of 1.3 million after training.
  3. When on Freeza's ship, Freeza does not kill Tagoma out of anger but punishes him for trying to control his methods.
  4. After Freeza invasion on Earth, Freeza does not destroy North City in the arc as he did in the film. In the film, this is where the last wish comes into play because, in the film, Bulma says she'll use the last wish to revive North City.
  5. In the arc, Ginyu, the former captain of the Ginyu Special Squadron or Ginyu Force switches bodies with Tagoma who has trained with Freeza during the four months.
  6. In the arc, Piccolo died for no reason. Maybe because Toei was trying to display Freeza's "evilness."
  7. During the fight with Golden Freeza, Goku gets shot by Sorbet in the heart in the film in his SSGSS form, which for some reason is a big deal to some fans but they do not understand what the form is. In the arc, before getting shot, Goku powers down to his base form.
  8. In the film, Bulma mentions she was going to use the last wish from the Dragon Balls to wish North City back, which was destroyed by Freeza. This action does not happen in Super. I keep mentioning this because fans are confused on why Shenron didn't grant three wishes. He actually did but not at once.
This concludes the differences between the Super and the films. Some of these might not seem major but they are some differences.

So what does this mean?

Toei Goku would get 2 more keys, Battle Of Gods | Ressurection 'F'

For Super Saiyan God, we know that he should scale vastly above even the Dragon Fist of Super Saiyan 3 as he believes that, in his current state, there is nothing he could do against Beerus, including Fusion. So that should make Super Saiyan God 3-B for being able to go up against 70% Beerus. and since Goku states that he was able to learn to tap into the power of Super Saiyan God and make it his own, that would make Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Super Saiyan Blue is anime and manga only) stronger than Super Saiyan God, but still below 100% Beerus. So on his profile, I think this is what it should look like.

Attack Potency: (same keys up until Buu Saga) | Multi-Galaxy level as a Super Saiyan God (Capable of fighting 70% Beerus, who scales above Goku's Dragon Fist as Goku believed that nothing he could do would be able to match Beerus) | Multi-Galaxy level, possibly 'higher' as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Stronger than his previous state as Goku had learned to tap into its power and make it his own)

Speed: (same keys up until Buu Saga) | Massively FTL+ as a Super Saiyan God (Comparable to Beerus, who blitzed Super Saiyan 3 Goku) | Massively FTL+ as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (Faster than before)

So what do you guys think? Aye or Nah?
 
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No, if we do BoG and RoF Movie, it would be another redundant profile, as movie canon to Manga not Toei DBZ
 
No, if we do BoG and RoF Movie, it would be another redundant profile, as movie canon to Manga not Toei DBZ
No new profiles, just keys for Toei. Also, how is the movie canon to the manga, I thought Movie 14 and 15 finish up the Toei continuity?
 
The Movie canon to Manga, as Akira is behind the scene, just because it is movie doesn't mean it is canon to other Toei Movies. GT continue from Toei DBZ not BoG and RoF Movie
 
We actually have plans to remove movie scaling from the Toei Goku profile iirc.
 
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