Adding examples for Transduality Type 3

[DontTalkDT]

This thread is to look for the best examples of Tranduality Type 3 to add to the Transduality page.

The character in question should have a solid reasoning for the ability that ideally is well explained somewhere.

That's all.

Suggestions up until now:

• Self-Reference Engine
• Arcana
• God (Unsong)

 

[ImmortalDread]

How many examples can we add?

 

[Sniper670]

Swirl of the Root
Oblivion

 

[DontTalkDT]

How many examples can we add?

I would say 2 or 3 good examples would do.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I would say 2 or 3 good examples would do.

I don't see any reasons/justification under God (Unsong)
I am not doubting that he got none, but the profile is not really finished and there are no references presented there

I would say Arcana from MG verse and Self-Engine Reference are good examples.

 

[ImmortalDread]

And it looks really outdated. No references, we no longer have “irrelevant” for Stamina, nor for striking strength.
So it does not look like a good example of transdaulity (unless someone re-update the page fully)

 

[Fixxed]

• Self-Reference Engine
• God (Unsong)

I dont think they two can be example for TD 3

The engine dont have any scan in it explanation for TD 3

And god unsong even not have explanation about TD 3 (even if he have in AP explanation, but i dont think people will read that, if they purpose just to search example for TD 3)

 

[Timeless]

SCP-001?
Swirl of the Root

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out, DontTalk. Should I send a notification to our staff members about this thread?

 

[Vietthai96]

Thank you very much for helping out, DontTalk. Should I send a notification to our staff members about this thread?

Ultima, Agnaa i think, they know Self-Reference Engine, Unsong

 

[PrinceofPein]

I will handle Unsong. Agnaa is inactive right now

 

[Antvasima]

@JustSomeWeirdo @Theglassman12 @Crabwhale @Eficiente @DarkGrath @Moritzva @Firestorm808 @DemonGodMitchAubin @Everything12 @Duedate8898 @Planck69 @KingTempest @Armorchompy @CrimsonStarFallen @UchihaSlayer96 @Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer @Maverick_Zero_X @LordTracer @Emirp sumitpo @EliminatorVenom

Would any of you be willing to help out here please?

 

[Planck69]

Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with settings that have Type 3 Transduality, beyond maybe Cthulhu Mythos and even then, I'm not that well versed on their reasoning.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I will handle Unsong. Agnaa is inactive right now

You need to fix the whole page, no justification for any of his abilities, and “irrelevant” should be removed from striking/Stamina. Good luck.
I don't see it as a representative example for TD type 3

 

[Crabwhale]

To be quite honest I don't know if I have any characters to contribute here.

 

[Timeless]

Swirl of the Root has a really detailed explanation of its transduality:
Transduality (Type 3; The duality of Yin and Yang can be defined as: A and B, which contain dots of opposite forces in themselves, it attempts to capture the essence of everything on a conceptual level. Ryougi is a Liangyi that divides, being in-between and contains both Yin and Yang, thus it can be defined as: both A and B and neither A nor B simultaneously. There is the Taiji, which is a nonduality state of oneness that contains and transcends previous states, thus it cannot be defined as: A, B, simultaneously A and B, neither A nor B. The Primordial Chaos is similar to the Taiji, where the Imaginary Number Space is opposite to its. The Root contains and transcends all previous states, and any possible description or definition one could try giving is immediately separated into its own idea unrelated to 「　」)

 

[InfiniteDay]

Before we just add nominations, can we actually get reasonings as to why on this thread so they can be evaluated?

 

[Theglassman12]

I might have a few characters for an example but I'd need them to be accepted as type 3 for me to use them as examples first.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Swirl of the Root has a really detailed explanation of its transduality:
Transduality (Type 3; The duality of Yin and Yang can be defined as: A and B, which contain dots of opposite forces in themselves, it attempts to capture the essence of everything on a conceptual level. Ryougi is a Liangyi that divides, being in-between and contains both Yin and Yang, thus it can be defined as: both A and B and neither A nor B simultaneously. There is the Taiji, which is a nonduality state of oneness that contains and transcends previous states, thus it cannot be defined as: A, B, simultaneously A and B, neither A nor B. The Primordial Chaos is similar to the Taiji, where the Imaginary Number Space is opposite to its. The Root contains and transcends all previous states, and any possible description or definition one could try giving is immediately separated into its own idea unrelated to 「　」)

Arcana from MG verse as well

 

[Timeless]

Arcana from MG verse as well

Already added

 

[DontTalkDT]

Personally I guess Self-Reference Engine, Swirl of Root and Arcana would be good examples for now.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Personally I guess Self-Reference Engine, Swirl of Root and Arcana would be good examples for now.

Alright. The CRT can be closed then

 

[Theglassman12]

@DontTalkDT can we format the TD page to have examples for specific types like we do for the regen and immortality pages?

 

[DontTalkDT]

We could. But then we need new examples for the other two types as well, because the Elder Scrolls guys are the only ones of the current examples to have one of them.

 

[ImmortalDread]

We could. But then we need new examples for the other two types as well, because the Elder Scrolls guys are the only ones of the current examples to have one of them.

They are many other verses as well, we can use for every 3 examples from 3 different verses

 

[Ubdon]

Gaim or any other high tier kamen rider, Rimuru and Lucifer for type 1

 

[Ubdon]

Yaldabaoth, Yang Qi and Khrone for type 2

 

[Dereck03]

Yaldabaoth,

I don't think this has a good explanation for Type 2. Eques is better.

 

[Ubdon]

I don't think this has a good explanation for Type 2. Eques is better.

Just want characters from different verses and mgf already in type 3.

Maybe Touhou characters with primordial form or Characters from Journery to the West via psysiology then ?

 

[Dereck03]

Characters from Journery to the West via psysiology then ?

This seems better.

 

[Robo432343]

gan from dark tower

 

[Ubdon]

gan from dark tower

His transduality probably the worst one that exist on vs

 

[ImmortalDread]

His transduality probably the worst one that exist on vs

Fr

 

[Robo432343]

His transduality probably the worst one that exist on vs

truee

 

[FaZe_Liam]

The Presence, Elaine Belloc and Gan are in the notable users section but the first two don't have the ability in their profiles while Gan's Transduality has no type nor explanation

 

[Ubdon]

Summary:

Gaim, Rimuru and Lucifer for type 1

Characters from Journery to the West via psysiology, Yang Qi and Khrone for type 2

Self-Reference Engine, Swirl of the Root and Arcana for type 3

Also SRE lack of scans for transduality so Oblivion also looks good

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Summary:

Gaim or any other high tier Kamen Rider, Rimuru and Lucifer for type 1

Characters from Journery to the West via psysiology, Yang Qi and Khrone for type 2

Self-Reference Engine, Swirl of the Root and Arcana for type 3

Also SRE lack of scans for transduality so Oblivion also looks good

Looks good to me.

 

[Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer]

Sorry b0ss, this goes above Hop's head a little. Some of it is too vague for this bunny brain.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Bump?