Slay the Princess Non/Transduality update

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I wanna add more logical states to the Shifting Mound and Long Quiet with the latter getting an upgrade in type.

So basically the Shifting Mound is contrast itself, having "is" and "is not" within her being. Yet simultaneously she is above and unrestrained by them

The logical states would correspond like this

Is
Is Not
Is and Is Not
Not (Is and Is Not) as she is unbound by them

So this is still type 2 transduality but instead it has 4 logic states to it now.

While the Long Quiet would have type 2 transduality of same degree, while also possessing type 3 nonduality as he is nothing at all in comparison to the Shifting Mound, and stands in direct opposition to her nature, being her mirror. Nonduality because he and the shifting mound are portrayed as equals, and thus it would make no sense for him to be that much above her.

This would also give the Shifting Mound type 3 nonduality interaction.

Thanks to @Deonment for the help.

 

[Deonment]

As the person who brought this up to begin with, I agree with this

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Sure.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I wanna add more logical states to the Shifting Mound and Long Quiet with the latter getting an upgrade in type.

Her having more states is fine with me

While the Long Quiet would have type 2 transduality of same degree, while also possessing type 3 nonduality as he is nothing at all in comparison to the Shifting Mound, and stands in direct opposition to her nature, being her mirror.

So you're saying ND Type 3 and TD Type 2? I guess that's okay, but it'll look a bit weird.

portrayed as equals, and thus it would make no sense for him to be that much above her.

Tbf TLQ is portrayed as the Shifting Mound's more powerful half in my view rather consistently throughout the game. Against the Razor you obliterate her pretty easily once going all out, same with the Fury, and even Apotheosis is ripped to pieces pretty easily once the Hero uses his tendrils on her. This is shown most explicitly in the Your New World ending, where the narration compares her attacks as "gnats" against TLQ's "divine skin". TLQ easily overpowers her and the Shifting Mound expresses complete shock at how easily she was defeated. From there, the TLQ can just destroy her afterwards.

So, honestly, I can see an argument to be made that the Long Quiet is above the Shifting Mound by the degree suggested here.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Her having more states is fine with me

So you're saying ND Type 3 and TD Type 2? I guess that's theoretically possible, but it'll look a bit weird.

Yea it's like transdual over other states while nondual over the the transdual stuff.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yea it's like transdual over other states while nondual over the the transdual stuff.

Yeah that's alright with me.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Bump

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

Following. I'm gonna give my input later.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Was told on discord she didn't feel like writing up any input now so the thread could proceed.

Is 2 votes enough or do I need 1 more?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Is 2 votes enough or do I need 1 more?

It can move on, but what do you think of my comment regarding the power difference

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

It can move on, but what do you think of my comment regarding the power difference

Not quite sure tbh. They still have a cyclical relationship, but you can maybe say TLQ has more "immediate power". Don't think it's enough to say his fifth state is entirely transduality though.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

It can move on, but what do you think of my comment regarding the power difference

if you're fine with the conclusion could you edit the profiles to include how many states for transduality and nonduality. Don't think justification needs tweaking since putting it on profiles would kinda just unnecessarily bloat things.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I don't have the time. I have unlocked the pages, though. Just tell me when you're done with them.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I don't have the time. I have unlocked the pages, though. Just tell me when you're done with them.

Done.