Adding an other justification for low 1-C Alien x

[Reiner04]

our plane of existence is at least 4D

Universe is treated as baseline plane of Existence, there is no such thing as "Just 3D" unless we deny the Existence of "spacetime continuum" which cannot be as has been stated dozens of times in ben 10 according to which space and time is interconnected. "Just 3D" as baseline plane of Existence needs proof.

 

[Robo432343]

just make a questions and answers thread abt it

 

[Reiner04]

just make a questions and answers thread abt it

Doesn't have to, baseline plane of Existence is already 4D, no can exist w/o spacetime.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Celestialsapiens don't need to do anything to survive anywhere in the Ben 10 verse

Well apparently they do

We haven't seen the entirety of the Forge though so I guess this could technically work.

Yeah

This doesn't mean that his HDE needs to match his AP.

Well I see this more as a justification for AP honestly

It doesn't really support it unless you can convince the staff that our plane of existence is at least 4D

Well we know that Alien x exist beyond the space and time of the universe so him being stated to transcends our plane of existence could very well refers to him transcending the whole space and time + what Reiner said above

Not sure how scans which are partially outdated are treated here, but chances are that you can't use them.

If said outdated information doesn't affect the information about Alien x transcending our plane of existence then I don't see how this matters like really

 

[Reiner04]

Anyway, Zveda is a homeworld (earth, solar system, whatever) and forge of creation is entire different reality (like Universe), so it's not really a contradiction tbh.

I am getting staff to evaluate it.

 

[Greenshifter]

Universe is treated as baseline plane of Existence, there is no such thing as "Just 3D" unless we deny the Existence of "spacetime continuum" which cannot be as has been stated dozens of times in ben 10 according to which space and time is interconnected. "Just 3D" as baseline plane of Existence needs proof.

, guess the statement is at least 6D then.

Well apparently they do

Their regen and self-sustenance already covers this, without going into detail about their pocket dimension.

Well I see this more as a justification for AP honestly

It's for both.

 

[Greenshifter]

forge of creation is entire different reality (like Universe)

It's a nebula and I will die on that hill and you know it.

 

[Reiner04]

It's a nebula and I will die on that hill and you know it.

Name fallacy , It's a forge of creation.

 

[Reiner04]

Also, what is being proposed is HDE which is fine in all aspects, we don't discredit entire secondary sources even if one or 2 informations from them is later on contradicted.

 

[Greenshifter]

Name fallacy , It's a forge of creation.

Thinking Paradox isn't being literal fallacy, cope.

For the record, this only scales to the pocket dimension.

 

[Gohanblanco217]

@Greenshifter so in the end you agree right ?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright from a glance.

 

[Greenshifter]

@Greenshifter so in the end you agree right ?

I agree with Alien X scaling to a higher plane of existence than the regular plane of existence in Ben 10 assuming we can use scans with partially outdated info.

 

[Firestorm808]

If we can verify the source, we can use it as a secondary resource.

 

[Reiner04]

guess the statement is at least 6D

Dude stop wanking.

If we can verify the source, we can use it as a secondary resource.

Yup, it is from ben 10 Alien force card games.

Alien X (Classic)/Gallery

ben10.fandom.com

I'll start applying the changes then.

 

[Greenshifter]

Dude stop wanking.

How big is the universe in Ben 10?

 

[Spectral69420]

About 20 feet probably

 

[Gohanblanco217]

How big is the universe in Ben 10?

Already addressed this see my "Alien x should be High 1-A" thread

 

[Reiner04]

How big is the universe in Ben 10?

About 20 feet probably

^^^^^^^^^

 

[Reiner04]

If we can verify the source, we can use it as a secondary resource.

You can close the thread, I've applied the changes.

 

[Greenshifter]

Before we close this, which structure exactly is the "regular" plane of existence?

 

[Reiner04]

Before we close this, which structure exactly is the "regular" plane of existence?

4D Universe as in baseline.