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About the acausality of HA DIO
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Agreed, coupled with the fact that he has a blatant weakness to paradoxes
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Agreed. That'd only be Resistance to Causality Manipulation.
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I'm not saying he's acausal, but Valentine's paradox isn't a time paradox. Just in case you had the wrong idea about it.
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Yeah, I was just about to say that. There was no time paradox that occured in EoH.
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That's not even the main reason for why HA Dio is not gonna have Acausality.
HA Dio RESISTS GER. This gets him Resistance to Causality Manipulation as for Acausality he'd need to have statements of being outside/above/Transcending Cause and Effect. Simply Resisting GER, no matter how casually, would only grant him Resistance to Causality Manipulation.
HA Dio RESISTS GER. This gets him Resistance to Causality Manipulation as for Acausality he'd need to have statements of being outside/above/Transcending Cause and Effect. Simply Resisting GER, no matter how casually, would only grant him Resistance to Causality Manipulation.
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Why are you being so aggresive? I wan't opposing the proposed change at all, just letting people know that the nature of Valentine's paradox isn't time based, in case they had the wrong idea. Jeez.
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I'm not being aggressive and I apologise if my comment came off as aggressive but I was just pointing out that Resisting Causality Manipulation Ôëá Acausality.
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Isn't Vale's is temporal based paradox?
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It's Menger Sponge Paradox which idk falls under Temporal Paradox or not.
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More along the line of "The same thing cannot exist at the same place at the same time." scientific rule.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the definition of Time Paradox is when you alter the past, it will cause your present self to cease to exist, right?
Also, @Lancer, you were literally stating that our posts were reasons to prove that HA DIO has acausality.
Also, @Lancer, you were literally stating that our posts were reasons to prove that HA DIO has acausality.
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@Standuser Yes.
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Then what happened to HA DIO wasn't time paradox. He was damaged because Jotaro forced him to come in contact with OG DIO's bracelets, and it's a rule in JoJo that if two similar people from different universes into contact with each other, they will cancel each other out.
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HA DIO and the bracelets aren't from the same universe remember.
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Well, the same thing can't exist in the same universe, can it? By same, I mean the two people/objects are same, not just in character, appearance or soul, but upto the very same subatomic particles that constitute them.
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Yeah, that's exactly why DIO was damaged.
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I mean, this also means that DIO is still vulnerable to D4C ability.
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Yes, but not time paradox.
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Who said D4C is time paradox?
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What I, and Standuser, are saying is that time paradox hasn't been used on HA DIO.
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Yes, I agree we should replace "Acausality" with "Resistance to Causality Manip".
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He might still be affected by it, but no one did that in canon.
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Look at the first reply.Homu Sweet Homu said:
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Weekly didn't specifically said "time paradox", you are the only who mentioned it in fact.
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The only paradox which can be used in reference to an Acausality discussion, is time paradox. The removal of acausality isn't the issue here, we're just removing a misconception on the part of one admin.
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Then what kind of paradox was Weekly talking about? And even if it was about another kind of paradox, it would have no relevance to the topic whatsoever.Homu Sweet Homu said:
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Can you show me show me where I was "literally stating" any such thing???Standuser081 said:
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Even though Tactical said...Lancer45Man said:
TacticalNuke002 said:
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Topkek. My comment was Specifically emphasized on the "Time Paradox" argument that was brought up when Weekly didn't even mention anything about Time Paradox and Weekly being involved in multiple threads about part 7 Jojo. Which is why I took the liberty of saying "That's not even '''The Main Reason'''" since people keep pointing out Weekly's comment when it wasn't what OP said in the main post.
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We never said we disagreed with the OP. Also
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Because it was derailing the thread when OP didn't mention anything about Paradoxes?? And sure enough it did derail the thread for which OP even commented about that above.
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We never said we disagreed with the OP. Me and Tactical only wanted to remove a misconception Weekly had.
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I brought this up before, so I agree.
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I agree with removing acausality as well. Pseudo off-topic, but he should also have Biological Manip, Technological Manip, Infinite reactions and be called "The Noble One" in his classifications.
Just confirmed by seeing a playthrough of EOH from the moment were he was introduced and HADIO as not feats of resisting Time Paradox, and neither did he interact with Diabolo who could have proved his Acausality with his precog, or Kira with his Fate-manip.
Something worth mentioning is that he might have got it from the glossary in the game like his Dimension Creation, but I can't find said glossary in the internet so someone with the game would need to check it.
But ignoring that for now I agree.
Also Funny mentioned that his paradox was because there could not be 2 copies of the same person with the second originating from a parallel dimension in the same, this is reinforced with Joseph asking then why there could be 2 of them and Funny answered that it was because they were of the same dimension but of differents times.
Something worth mentioning is that he might have got it from the glossary in the game like his Dimension Creation, but I can't find said glossary in the internet so someone with the game would need to check it.
But ignoring that for now I agree.
Also Funny mentioned that his paradox was because there could not be 2 copies of the same person with the second originating from a parallel dimension in the same, this is reinforced with Joseph asking then why there could be 2 of them and Funny answered that it was because they were of the same dimension but of differents times.
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