About Naruto's moon

[Ryop]

Someone closed my other qustion before i agree so i didnt get a chance to ask another qustion so i ask here :

First,is here in the Databook worte something about the moon? how much he is hollow or somthing?

Second,is the fact that the moon kind of hollow downgrade Toneri's Attack Potency?

 

[Ryop]

Bump

 

[Gemmysaur]

1. Can't remember or find a translated scan of that. That, and I'm very sure we don't use databooks. How much of the moon is free space and how much of it is the crust, and how much of it is the core, we don't really know yet.

2. Yes it is, and it does.

 

[Ryop]

about 2-how much this downgrade? is it still make his feat aorund continent level?

 

[Heatforce]

Here is an old thread regarding this matter, it was resolved back in 2015:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/77125

Please be sure to read UzumakiKurisu's comment near the bottom, that comment seems to be what resolved the issue.

 

[Ryop]

1. Can't remember or find a translated scan of that. That, and I'm very sure we don't use databooks. How much of the moon is free space and how much of it is the crust, and how much of it is the core, we don't really know yet.
2. Yes it is, and it does.

I have also another qaustion,how Sakura was able to survive get hit by the TSB (and i pertty sure this is his TSB becuse he change his TSB into that stick form before )? or this is another technique?

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Since the moon is hollow, it has less weight than the actual moon so it's gonna have the same mass as a large continent. We don't know how hollow is it really but we got an idea of how it looks like.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

about 2-how much this downgrade? is it still make his feat aorund continent level?

Gwyn's calculation already assumed that the moon is hollow. That's why there's debate surrounding it.

 

[Ryop]

about 2-how much this downgrade? is it still make his feat aorund continent level?

Gwyn's calculation already assumed that the moon is hollow. That's why there's debate surrounding it.

Ok thanks,you can pls also answer my other question?:

"I have also another qaustion,how Sakura was able to survive get hit by the TSB (and i pertty sure this is his TSB becuse he change his TSB into that stick form before )? this is another technique? or maybe that mean the TSB isnt ignore durability\turn pepole to dusht?"

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I don't really remember that part but it must obviously be PIS.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

I think the downgrade is like Multi-Continent or Continent level. Something like that IIRC.

 

[Ryop]

That was in chapter 676 if you want to look

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

Well being impaled by a TSB would be the same thing as being impaled by a sword, she just needed high enough Regenerationn to heal the wound.

 

[Ryop]

So.. she has resistance to Matter Manipulation?

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Yeah, as TSB is not a normal sword and it also drains chakra IIRC. But I could be wrong lol.

 

[Ryop]

The TSB stated to be able turn pepole ro dust,so or the TSB arent actually ignore durability or she survie it becuse she has Regenerationn from Molecular Level attacks? that sound knida ridiculous

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

TSB doesn't drain chakra, it negates ninjutsu.And no healing from an attack that does an unknown kind/amount of damage on the molecules doesn't give her resistance to matter manipulation.

 

[Ryop]

Wait but there is no reason why Sakura can regen from this and Edo Tensei cant

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Ahh I see. Yeah also it can kill an Edo Tensei being right? Just like what Obito did when he managed to cut off Minato's arm despite being an Edo being.

 

[Davidsteel1]

U can't technically kill what's already dead. As far as I understand it he simply cancelled out the jutsu that allowed the edo Tensei to regenerate

 

[Ryop]

so why this didnt cancell Sakura's jutsu?

 

[Davidsteel1]

so why this didnt cancell Sakura's jutsu?

I don't know, maybe it's just an inconsistency. But I'd say let the more knowledgeable members on Naruto reply

 

[Gemmysaur]

This is just me theorycrafting but it's probably something like Edo Tensei being a one-cast deal, so once part of it gets negated, it stays negated. Meanwhile, Sakura's healing is iirc, continuously reproducing cells at accelerated speeds, which could be a continuously casted ability.

Something like an RPG magic that only casts once and self-heals on its own, vs a magic that you have to spam.

 

[Heatforce]

The TSB are said to act like a more fluid version of dust release. So whatever part of your body touches the TSB is gone, atomized. In Sakura's case, if she didn't have her regen activated she would have died. The reason why the TSB didn't negate her ninjutsu is because the ninjutsu originates from the seal on her forehead. That's where her and Tsunade store their chakra to perform the jutsu. So either their charka needs to be exhausted or you negate the seal itself to terminate their regen.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

U can't technically kill what's already dead. As far as I understand it he simply cancelled out the jutsu that allowed the edo Tensei to regenerate

You're pretty much dead though if you can't regenerate from one's attack. So basically Minato is technically back to death if Obito striked him again with his TSB.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

I doubt that Naruto's hollow and terraformed Moon will reduce Toneri's attack, since I think he has been miscalculating about it, mainly because that Moon is not as serious as ours, but the same gravity as our planet, increases its mass exponentially, is also the fact that it possesses an oceanic mass, large tracts of forests, an atmosphere much greater than our Moon, among other factors.

With respect to the Gudodama I have seen that the user who created this issue has many doubts about them and mentions a lot, Sakura surviving Madara's attack is nothing more than an inconsistency or plot hole since there is no way she could survive To that kind of attack. This does not change the fact that the Gudodamas atomize their goal or cancel the Regenerationn (provided the user put Onmyoton in them, because apparently Obito in its Jinchuriki Imperfect Form did not and thanks to that Tobirama and Hiruzen managed to regenerate).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

the hole concept of the TSB's to me just didn't make any sense.

Also can someone post a scan of where it says the TBS Atomizes what it touches.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Basicallly it doesn't just negates durability, but negates other abilities as well like regen, ninjutsu etc. I agree that Sakura surviving a TSB attack is just a plot hole since sometimes things could be forgotten out of the blue.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

How can it negate durability when Naruto could touch Madara's. They say its because of Sage chakra but why, what makes Sage chakra immune to its effects?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Sage chakra, because something something natural energy.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

So they only work on things with chakra then?

 

[Dariel_Senju]

the hole concept of the TSB's to me just didn't make any sense.

Also can someone post a scan of where it says the TBS Atomizes what it touches.

Difficult to think that you mention that the Gudodamas do not make sense without knowing because it is mentioned that they atomize, the reason is this http://www.**********.com/naruto/639/9 where it is specified that this technique is similar to Jinton of Onoki (One formed by three elements and another by the combination of 7 from there is notorius the difference) who can destroy at the molecular level that is practically atomization.

 

[Dariel_Senju]

So they only work on things with chakra then?

A simple answer, no, not only work in chakra, in another subject I already explain that chakra is nothing more than the name that is called energy in Naruto.