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About Hax Passive And Speed
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1. Passives are instantaneous so I'm not actually sure how they would interact with Infinite speed, which is also instantaneous. Though it seems that general consensus is that Immeasurable speed is where passives can be dodged.
2. As long as feats for it exist then yes, it can.
2. As long as feats for it exist then yes, it can.
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Passive=instantaneous=/=infinite speed.
Infinite speed is faster then Passives, as Infinite speed is zero seconds, while passives are some undefined amount that is quicker then the opponent but still takes time to occur.
Infinite speed is faster then Passives, as Infinite speed is zero seconds, while passives are some undefined amount that is quicker then the opponent but still takes time to occur.
CelestialPhoenix001
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Depends on the case of passive hax and how passive hax is activated. There are some cases where passive hax has an effect and is activated slowly, so in this case Infinity Speed or Immeasurable Speed can be easily dodged, but there are also many cases where passive hax takes effect immediately when facing the vehicle has just touched or entered the automatic range of the passive hax, so in this case no matter how fast it is, it can't be avoided.
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Wrong, no matter how fast passive is, Immeasurable speed can dodge it, unless that passive can hax someone who have immeasurable speed. Above baseline Infinite speed allow how to dodge baseline passive hax which have instanateous effect
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CelestialPhoenix001
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Passive hax has many different cases, not all of them can dodge with infinite speed or immeasurable speed. Not to mention, also based on how they work, there are not always instantaneous effects, sometimes characters running at immeasurable speeds are still affected by passive hax easily.
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Wrong, by default no matter how fast passive is, immeasurable speed and above baseline infinite speed can dodge it. You need feat to of passive hax can effect infinite speed or immeasurable speed
CelestialPhoenix001
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Passive hax is the hax automatically has and doesn't need the character to turn on, so it doesn't need speed? Do you mean the speed at which the effect of passive hax affects the character?
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Yes, the passive hax is just a hax that doesn't need to turn on, by default at best passive hax have "infinite speed" or instanateous
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1. I think it's effective, because passive hax > infinite speed, mftl+, mftl, ftl etc
2. I dont know
2. I dont know
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passive hax do not > infinite speed, it is depend on how they work. there is some passive hax but have slow effect
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Is that so?, I don't think so, but it depends on the achievement too, cmiiw
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Above baseline infinite speed can also dodge passive as the general assumption is baseline infinite speed
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It actually depends on the kind of passive ability. Some passives activate automatically under certain conditions, while others are always active.
For passives that are automatic, Infinite speed would be faster because there would be no time for it to activate.
E.g A shield that activates whenever someone attacks. To infinite speed characters who are always in perceived time stop, it won't activate, because the passive shield activates the "time" an attack occurs.
The time for the shield to emerge won't exist.
As for passives that are always active, they would already be active the exact moment the battle starts, so it counters baseline infinite speed. But that just means it's active, as for whether it can deter the infinite speed character depends.
E.g An passive indestructible shield that's always active around the user will successfully block baseline infinite speed characters since it has no time and is always active.
But if the passive ability is disintegration for example. Like the ability to passively disintegrate anything that comes within 5 feet from them. The Infinite speed character will be afflicted by the power of they're within range, but they won't disintegrate since the time for their decomposition would be nonexistent.
For passives that are automatic, Infinite speed would be faster because there would be no time for it to activate.
E.g A shield that activates whenever someone attacks. To infinite speed characters who are always in perceived time stop, it won't activate, because the passive shield activates the "time" an attack occurs.
The time for the shield to emerge won't exist.
As for passives that are always active, they would already be active the exact moment the battle starts, so it counters baseline infinite speed. But that just means it's active, as for whether it can deter the infinite speed character depends.
E.g An passive indestructible shield that's always active around the user will successfully block baseline infinite speed characters since it has no time and is always active.
But if the passive ability is disintegration for example. Like the ability to passively disintegrate anything that comes within 5 feet from them. The Infinite speed character will be afflicted by the power of they're within range, but they won't disintegrate since the time for their decomposition would be nonexistent.
