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About getting "almighty" powers from Tier 0 or High 1-As
- Thread starter Drag-O-Drawgon
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Yes. Lets stop derailing this thread and talk about what that was on another time.
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@Dragon
There are two reasons why I won't do that.
1) I'm not about to put myself in a situation where it's me vs 7 members of the community. At that point, I might get banned.
2) I don't feel like re-reading the discussions to find specific posts, nor do I want to cause hostility between myself and people who wrote the posts.
Edit: This is my last post on this thread
There are two reasons why I won't do that.
1) I'm not about to put myself in a situation where it's me vs 7 members of the community. At that point, I might get banned.
2) I don't feel like re-reading the discussions to find specific posts, nor do I want to cause hostility between myself and people who wrote the posts.
Edit: This is my last post on this thread
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@Young-Jah We need to stop derailing. Drop that discussion until this thread is finished. Thank you.
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In my opinion i don`t have anything against character have power from higher if there is story behind to back up. Telling why this character has this power. Of course if it used in vs match i would too say this ability is banned or not used in this match for ``flawless victory move``.
In my mind we should do as we do now --> look profile --> no proper story behind --> inform creator about there should be something back up this --> if nothing happens then action.
If creator fixes issue, then let show go on...
In my mind we should do as we do now --> look profile --> no proper story behind --> inform creator about there should be something back up this --> if nothing happens then action.
If creator fixes issue, then let show go on...
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Alright. Do you think that with this rule, that we shouldn't take "It's a WIP" as an excuse? (I certainly would not)Lekmos said:
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Alright. Do you think that with this rule, that we shouldn't take "It's a WIP" as an excuse? (I certainly would not)
If it's a WIP then wouldn't they just
A not have vs battles anyway. B be expected to finishe?
If it's a WIP then wouldn't they just
A not have vs battles anyway. B be expected to finishe?
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He's talking about just having a rule on needing a story to have the "almighty" powers from High 1-A and 0, not just VS threads.
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@Drag-O-Drawgon
I would give certain time for that, if there is no change in like weeks after telling creator to change or tell why this is like this. Then i would tell that WIP is not anymore excuse for stats be ``flawless victory mode on``
Or what is your or others opinion about time limit for WIP excuse?
I would give certain time for that, if there is no change in like weeks after telling creator to change or tell why this is like this. Then i would tell that WIP is not anymore excuse for stats be ``flawless victory mode on``
Or what is your or others opinion about time limit for WIP excuse?
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I'd say at most 2 weeks to do some kind of edit making progress in it, otherwise it gets the Hakai. Also, if they do start making more pages (especially like their first page in question), then action may be taken sooner (unless they weren't warned, but in this case, they should be).
But we'll see what everyone else thinks, before we make the rule.
But we'll see what everyone else thinks, before we make the rule.
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Two weeks sounds good to me and in nutshell..
If you wanna make character, which have powers from tier High 1-A or tier 0. Then you must have good story back up for it. If you are noted for that, you should not make new pages before fixing your noted page. Be noted too that, this kind powers are banned in vs match.
What this kind addition to rules would sound?
If you wanna make character, which have powers from tier High 1-A or tier 0. Then you must have good story back up for it. If you are noted for that, you should not make new pages before fixing your noted page. Be noted too that, this kind powers are banned in vs match.
What this kind addition to rules would sound?
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This would seem fine. I will go ahead take votes from the community for this rule addition.
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Alright, I have decided to put the following in the ban list:
"Any 'almighty' power coming from a Tier 0 or High 1-A: While not outright banned from profiles, they are banned from all vs threads (and wiki's strongest threads) and any votes saying a character wins because of this power (as long as no other reason exists in said vote) should be disregarded. However, any profile that does not have evidence of a story in it and/or is bad quality with one of these powers is banned and will be asked to be fixed, and 2 weeks will be given. If the creator does not fix the page within these 2 weeks, the page will be deleted. Repeated offenses with no effort to fix any pages may result in a ban."
That sound good?
"Any 'almighty' power coming from a Tier 0 or High 1-A: While not outright banned from profiles, they are banned from all vs threads (and wiki's strongest threads) and any votes saying a character wins because of this power (as long as no other reason exists in said vote) should be disregarded. However, any profile that does not have evidence of a story in it and/or is bad quality with one of these powers is banned and will be asked to be fixed, and 2 weeks will be given. If the creator does not fix the page within these 2 weeks, the page will be deleted. Repeated offenses with no effort to fix any pages may result in a ban."
That sound good?
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I think the first and second/third sentences should be separate rules. I also don't think the bit about "with one of these powers" is necessary in the second sentence.
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So, maybe put the second/third right below it like so?
Any 'almighty' power coming from a Tier 0 or High 1-A: While not outright banned from profiles, they are banned from all vs threads (and wiki's strongest threads) and any votes saying a character wins because of this power (as long as no other reason exists in said vote) should be disregarded.
Any 'almighty' power coming from a Tier 0 or High 1-A: While not outright banned from profiles, they are banned from all vs threads (and wiki's strongest threads) and any votes saying a character wins because of this power (as long as no other reason exists in said vote) should be disregarded.
- However, any profile that does not have evidence of a story in it and/or is bad quality is banned and will be asked to be fixed, and 2 weeks will be given. If the creator does not fix the page within these 2 weeks, the page will be deleted. Repeated offenses with no effort to fix any pages may result in a ban.
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FIFYDrag-O-Drawgon said:
The first rule doesn't need the "any votes will be disregarded" bit. The powers are automatically restricted, that's enough to say any votes with those powers as their only reasoning will be invalid.
The second rule doesn't need to be a subsection. It can be a rule on its own that bad profiles get the axe. Saying "bad profiles are banned" is weirder than simply saying "bad profiles will be given 2 weeks to be fixed, otherwise they will be deleted". Also, I disagree with deleting profiles for "lack of a story". Some characters are creating on spur of the moment ideas of powers or something, they don't have or need a story.
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@Drag
Remember Personality =/= Story. You don't need a story to have a detailed file or a decent paragraph or two worth of personality.
Remember Personality =/= Story. You don't need a story to have a detailed file or a decent paragraph or two worth of personality.
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Well, I'll keep the first one in mind, but I feel as if people who will repeatedly (like, a lot) make bad profiles like this will need a temporary ban to tell them they need to stop. And people need to really know that yes, this can result in a ban. That way, nobody can complain about being "unfairly banned". So I think the "you can get banned" should stay.
Second rule is very related, so I feel it should be a subsection. But again, we'll see what other people think. Although I will remove the "needs a story" bit.
Second rule is very related, so I feel it should be a subsection. But again, we'll see what other people think. Although I will remove the "needs a story" bit.
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Having almighty powers and having a bad profile are not intrinsically related to the point that being a bad profile is a sub section of having almighty powers
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It works like this:
>Character with almighty powers created for the sake of experimentation =/= bad character.
>Character with almighty powers created as part of a verse with subjective (opinionated) levels of quality =/= bad character.
>Character with almighty powers created for the Wiki's Strongest Thread or to be the strongest in fiction most certainly = bad character. Regardless if they come from a verse, have legendary levels of character development and personality, or lack thereof.
Making a hax character for vs debates is not a bad thing. Making one with almighty powers for the same reason is. For they have almighty powers they are mostly going to be impossible to beat.
The difference is intent.
>Character with almighty powers created for the sake of experimentation =/= bad character.
>Character with almighty powers created as part of a verse with subjective (opinionated) levels of quality =/= bad character.
>Character with almighty powers created for the Wiki's Strongest Thread or to be the strongest in fiction most certainly = bad character. Regardless if they come from a verse, have legendary levels of character development and personality, or lack thereof.
Making a hax character for vs debates is not a bad thing. Making one with almighty powers for the same reason is. For they have almighty powers they are mostly going to be impossible to beat.
The difference is intent.
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Alright, since not a lot of people are responding anymore, I guess I will keep that in mind and add the thing to the ban list.
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"About to make a thread on question and answer borde" "realizes this is still open" What qualifys as an all mighty power? Like even if it was created by a 0 or high 1-A would it still count if it wasn't well limitless?
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Anything that is on the level of a High 1-A hax (or something of that nature).
Example: Getting a Regenerationn from a High 1-A that cannot be bypassed by any means other than that High 1-A (or a tier 0, it that is there) would be banned from VS threads. However, if it was something like a High regen that could be bypassed/nulled that came from a High 1-A, that doesn't count because it isn't on that High 1-A level, and isn't really "almighty".
Example: Getting a Regenerationn from a High 1-A that cannot be bypassed by any means other than that High 1-A (or a tier 0, it that is there) would be banned from VS threads. However, if it was something like a High regen that could be bypassed/nulled that came from a High 1-A, that doesn't count because it isn't on that High 1-A level, and isn't really "almighty".
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Ok that's a good distinction to make. My pages I have planed (if I ever get around to them) should be fine.
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