About Dragon Cry

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I need to redo Etherion anyways, since the Diameter changed, so it looks like the Fairy Tail changes will continue regardless

 

[Zensum]

I agree this doesnt look High 6-A at all

 

[Dat_Dot]

The thing is we don't have anything to support the current High 6-A calc anymore as the calc use the explosion yield of a single blast which again, isn't the case. We don't know the full power of Dragon Cry as it shown able to destroy Isghar overtime, even High 8-C attacks if done repeatedly overtime can destroy a town if given enough time.

 

[HST_Master]

We saw it's full power however. Nothing indicates that Dragon Cry in one blast was stronger than Etherion.

We can interpret that statement of stronger than Etherion meaning that it has greater destructive capacity than Etherion.. because that is technically true. Dragon Cry would have greater destruction over time.

Dragon Cry overall has generally more magic power than Etherion, it's blasts being spread out doesn't contradict this, if anything it supports it

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Dragon Cry has more magic power since it is capable of eventually destroying a continent over time while Ehterion would only be able to destroy a country with one blast.

So Dragon Cry is High 6-A with over time destruction while Etherion is Low 6-B with one blast.

So yeah, it's true that Dragon Cry is several times more powerful than Etherion, it's just over time that it does so.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Etherion is Not Low 6-B

 

[AstralKing7]

do we even know if the blasts were gonna go off one at a time or at the same time??


i keep seeing people goign around in circules without adressing this cause its hard to tell which was gonna happen. If Zash had a way of condensing the attack and still destroying Ishagar it should keep its rating imo Natsu and Amnius shouldnt scale tho if Amnius attack was gonna go off one at a time

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Correct, it's 6-B iirc when using Illa as a base for the calc and High 6-B if you use Fiore since that yields 210 teratons.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Etherion is 6-B High 6-B meaning these guys go back to High 6-B if this goes through.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I'm redoing the Etherion Calc

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

do we even know if the blasts were gonna go off one at a time or at the same time??
i keep seeing people goign around in circules without adressing this cause its hard to tell which was gonna happen. If Zash had a way of condensing the attack and still destroying Ishagar it should keep its rating imo Natsu and Amnius shouldnt scale tho if Amnius attack was gonna go off one at a time

Zash gets the staff and literally says "Dragon Cry, show me your true power" and when activated it makes all the magic circles above Ishgar. Then after a scuffle, it begins it's sporadic bombardment over Fiore.

 

[BlackeJan]

waot w/ the new Fiore calc. Did it get bigger or smaller?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Smaller

 

[BlackeJan]

Alright well let us know about the Etherion calc then

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Animus absorb whole dc which give him his original power

And dc=can destroy ishgar

so animus(at full powers)=dc power lvl (Dc stand for dragon cry)

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Using the new diameter of Fiore from Mitch and Toch themselves:

Formula: R = Y^(1/3)*0.28

Fiore Diameter = 4195.8 kilometers

(2097.9/0.28)^3) / 2 = 210305320102 kiltons or 210 Teratons. High 6-B when assuming that Etherion could destroy Fiore.

If assuming Illa

Illa diameter = 1769.3 kilometers

(884.7/0.28)^3) / 2 = 15771899176 kilotons or 15.8 Teratons. 6-B when assuming that Etherion could destroy Illa.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

And in movie

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Again dc for much stronger than etherion and it grants animus full power. We don't know if animus was going to one shot ishagr or not because he was fighting against Natsu at same time

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Also just saying again but the Fiore calc w/ Sema ISNT accepted yet until other calc members agree or make a CRT for ONLY calc members about Sema

That calc doesn't have to do with Dragon Cry. Fiore's size was determined in another already accepted thread.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

That statement would be disregarded as the actual feat doesn't support the statement. Perhaps it is "stronger than Etherion" in that Etherion is stated to destroy a country while Dragon Cry can destroy a continent... but destroy it over time with a bombardment of smaller blasts.

Its depends on who is controlling dragon cry

 

[BlackeJan]

So basically we need to figure out if Acno/Zeref > Dragon Cry (10x multiplier) cause yeah I also wanted to say something about since we know Acno is stronger then Etherion but we don't know the multiplier or how much then Dragon Cry

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

FT mages have shown mutliple times to be able to output all of the magic power in one blow, which is quite often how they are scaled.

Such as LFDM Natsu on Tenrou for example.

Same with Dragon Cry. We have a direct statement of it being at least 12x stronger than Etherion, which should fly. The fact that it was condensed for better range doesn't discredit the statement of it's full power.

Its not just x12 it say dozen"s" not dozen

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

So basically we need to figure out if Acno/Zeref > Dragon Cry (10x multiplier) cause yeah I also wanted to say something about since we know Acno is stronger then Etherion but we don't know the multiplier or how much then Dragon Cry

Its not x10, its way power than that( i already post scan)its dozens of time more power than ethereon. X10 statement is just a bad sub

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Zash gets the staff and literally says "Dragon Cry, show me your true power" and when activated it makes all the magic circles above Ishgar. Then after a scuffle, it begins it's sporadic bombardment over Fiore.

Nope, zash didnt use it full power it he get vaporized. The bombardmeent start after animus eat and get his full power back, then he start bombardment on ishgar

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

The statement about Dragon Cry isn't about the AP in one blast clearly. We are literally given a demonstration of Dragon Cry in action and it works via city block to multi city block busting magical blast being spammed through magic circles all over the continent.

The statement says "If unleashed (Dragon Cry) it would discharge more magic power than dozens of Etherions". This is true because if Dragon Cry does it's job and fires all it's magical blast over time, it will eventually destroy Ishgar. Destroying Ishgar is dozens of times better than Etherion which is only stated to be able to destroy a country.

So no, nothing says Dragon Cry in one blast is 24 times Etherion, it's simply has more magical power than Etherion which is supported by the fact and demonstration that Dragon Cry over time would destroy Ishgar.

 

[BlackeJan]

@9Tails

If that's the case then the "dozens of Etherion Blast" could also be bad subs. Do u see where I'm getting at? If we have one sub saying "10x greater" while the other one says "dozen greater" then how do we know which one is the real quote?

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

@9Tails

If that's the case then the "dozens of Etherion Blast" could also be bad subs. Do u see where I'm getting at? If we have one sub saying "10x greater" while the other one says "dozen greater" then how do we know which one is the real quote?

Check on ********* they have movie with 2 link One with bad sub and another with official release

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Like when says you are not a human and demon you the one who destroy everything

In bad sub the dialogue end here.

And in official dialogue end with

" you are not a human and demon you the one who destroy everything E.N.

Also in dub they also say it dozens of time stronger than ether

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

So no, nothing says Dragon Cry in one blast is 24 times Etherion, it's simply has more magical power than Etherion which is supported by the fact and demonstration that Dragon Cry over time would destroy Ishgar.

1. no_offence but it depends on user, also i have some other example where people have damage over time feat yet it calc at like they are going to destroy a specific thing in one shot, but i don't want to involve other animes/comic/manga

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Umm okay? So my last comment still stands.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

@blackjean also if you compare both versions available on ********* the x10 etherion version movie has a lot of grammatical and other sub mistake

 

[BlackeJan]

@blackjean also if you compare both versions available on ********* the x10 etherion version movie has a lot of grammatical and other sub mistake

Where is the dub scene then if u don't mind me asking

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Where is the dub scene then if u don't mind me asking

?? Dub version is also available on *********(sorry i didn't understand what you want to say, my English is not that good) jump at 59:00

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Umm okay? So my last comment still stands.

Can you rewrite/quote it

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

The statement about Dragon Cry isn't about the AP in one blast clearly. We are literally given a demonstration of Dragon Cry in action and it works via city block to multi city block busting magical blast being spammed through magic circles all over the continent.
The statement says "If unleashed (Dragon Cry) it would discharge more magic power than dozens of Etherions". This is true because if Dragon Cry does it's job and fires all it's magical blast over time, it will eventually destroy Ishgar. Destroying Ishgar is dozens of times better than Etherion which is only stated to be able to destroy a country.

So no, nothing says Dragon Cry in one blast is 24 times Etherion, it's simply has more magical power than Etherion which is supported by the fact and demonstration that Dragon Cry over time would destroy Ishgar.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

Dragon cry's total destructive capabilities should still yield a High-6A, it was zash that choose to spread out the destructive capabilities of dragon cry. This isn't a good reason for a downgrade for dragon cry, animus after absorbing dragon cry should still be High-6A because now he can release all that power in a single attack if he wants to.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

We were given a demonstration of what Dragon Cry is capable of when Zash activated it and when Animus reactivated it. Nothing about it was 6-A since it was damaged over time.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

What zash activated was a magic circle that covered the whole continent of ishgar, and used dragon cry's magic as the source for his magic circle. Animus who absorbed the dragon cry's full power should be high-6a, since now he can release it in a single attack if he wants.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Zash activated Dragon Cry and it made magic circles all over Ishgar. When Animus took Dragon Cry and reactivated it, it made the magic circles to start firing upon Ishgar.

This is not 6-A.

 

[KaiserReinhardt]

Nothing says that the magic circle came from the dragon cry itself. The dragon cry is only the magic of all the dragons that acnologia killed in that cave. Zash used all those magic powers to activate his magic circle and used the dragon cry as the source for that magic circle. What animus did was reactivate that magic circle and nothing more.

Animus with fully absorbed dragon cry should be high-6a, now that he can release all that magic in a single attack.