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About Bleach top tier's speed ...

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I have here ichigo's calculations for his speed in his profile he's only labeled as " Massively hypersonic + " when i think it should be higher Ô¼ç

so to be fair I'm doing a multiplier here and assuming you know your math try and keep up

So lighting travels at around 220,000 mph so ichigo at this point is this fast : https://m.imgur.com/8efiHHL

then in his second encounter with grimjow in his "Base form keep in mind" ( that's grimmjow) he has his first controlled vizard mask wich is a 5x increase ( based on the bankai multiplier: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZMRuUIGOQ...z6Hg/UReKu2wQpJc/w1900/MR-19531-303622-13.jpg ) now how do we know this ? To put it simple grimmjow got pummeled > https://i4.**********.com/bleach/231/bleach-1589470.jpg<&>https://i3.**********.com/bleach/232/bleach-1589495.jpg < So a 5x increase goes from 220,000mph to 1,100,000mph and that's with the first vizard increase we then skip right to their third encounter where grimmjow fires a GRC and ichigo tanks it point blank > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_geiGIQSys < and as I already discussed and how it has already been stated GRC is capable of destroying LN itself : http://s1.mgimgcdn.com/r1/read_bleach_manga_online_for_free2/chapter_345_the_sloth/12.jpg Okay so then grimjow releases his form witch is the one thing that it's the equivalent of a capitains bankai so a 5x to 10x multiplier but in this case it can only be five as not to forget they were at a pretty leveled state pretty much on the equal :

https://images.8tracks.com/cover/i/...057.jpg?rect=84,0,467,467&q=98&fm=jpg&fit=max

He then surpasses that :


(1)##http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MYDBblOKW...wCeQ/q12y7jWv0xg/w1900/MR-19531-303785-19.jpg

(2)## http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qr-IxYS8E...wCd0/cwKx8vaSksQ/w1900/MR-19531-303785-20.jpg

(3)## http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HNwAXd7R3...DwCbk/E4SP29fU_Is/w1900/MR-19531-303786-4.jpg


So by the setting of these 3 images we can conclude that ichigo has completely surpassed grimmjow as he also later on proceeds to go right through his "most powerful technique" :

ÔûáÔûá http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TpD2-oSJB...DwA6E/PDl32yxf6OE/w1900/MR-19531-303787-6.jpg


ÔûáÔûá http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fmFA3vJop...v_oc/82M0Z6b9fOg/w1900/MR-19531-303787-16.jpg


ÔûáÔûá http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HpBznuJPj...v_mE/l_qf2-A1z6w/w1900/MR-19531-303787-22.jpg

Wich means he had to get another 5x increase so the mask did in fact make the 10x increase therefore surpassing grimjow "entirely" so this brings us to the final calculations so to recap


220,000mph x5 is 1,100,000mph times that by five 1,100,000 ×5 is 5,500,000mph So ichigo when fighting ulq in his first release bearly manage to keep up, as a matter of fact he got owned http://manganelo.com/chapter/read_bleach_manga_online_for_free2/chapter_347 (it's pretty much a whole chapter of bullying lol)

So it's one release but we can only speculate that if it's 5x or 10x but for the purpose of keeping it fair I'm saying it's a 5x so 5,500,000 (wich is where ichigo was at vs grimmjow) is 27,500,000 so he then releases his 2nd form wich even with the mask on ulquiorra causally overwhelms it > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v5s02-mF_...uesU/9-YEVESG07s/w1900/MR-19531-303850-17.jpg <> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hcrIBZVbX...udZk/qc9TRxxt940/w1900/MR-19531-303850-18.jpg

so another form that's another 5x increase or rather 137,500,000mph 220,000x625 = 137,500,000 then ichigo surpasses all of that by going even further with the full hollow wich we could say it's a 10x since hollow ichigo wrecked ulquiorra no effort whatsoever it was pretty much a one sided massacre


ÔûáÔûá http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VqpIirgy5...uZM0/nfraBBlHjag/w1900/MR-19531-303853-13.jpg

ÔûáÔûá http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bJae37aDP...uZL0/87s7mXP5jzo/w1900/MR-19531-303853-15.jpg

ÔûáÔûá http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o-n2FUumi...uZKw/MukRO32FUpM/w1900/MR-19531-303853-17.jpg

ÔûáÔûá http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x839Lg_TA...uZIs/jUhJ9p1NAyw/w1900/MR-19531-303853-21.jpg

ÔûáÔûá http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kLQgsUUSK...DuXw4/E6p8qef6D0M/w1900/MR-19531-303854-9.jpg

ÔûáÔûá http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kM6lTzrYn...uXvA/R4osAyHjI8M/w1900/MR-19531-303854-13.jpg

So yeah I'm kinda iffy on the 5 or 10 so Imma do both

5×137,500,000mph = 687,500,000mph 10x137,500,000mph = 1,375,000,000

In comparison speed of light = 670 616 629 miles per hour 687,500,000 & 1,375,000,000 are feats in VASTO LORDE form So he's already FTL by that point with both calcs so why is his page labeled massively hypersonic+?


I'm opened for your opinions guys ...
 
So we know they're FTL but because it only works with the Multipliers we can't go much further than this ? But aren't we sure that at least the Top Tiers can be put into Sub Relativistic ?
 
Hold up I'm still looking for someone to calc the light feats in Bleach, we'll end up with sub rel to Relativistic top tiers depending on the calc. But I disagree with adding multiplers since they're inconsistent with how much they multiple your power by, but if I recall it was 5-10 times. This 5x multipler seems the best route to go with but that's only if others agree.
 
Bluetrekking said:
@Knight Do you mean Youruichi and Sui-Feng dodging the light attack at the end of the SS arc? I could try to calc it.
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Well that and the Auswählen but if you can calc one or both of them that'd be great!
 
Also inconsistent, I think. Aizen immediately shut down the idea in the main revisions last time mainly due to their inconsistency.
 
@Blue

If you want to do Auswahlen, I can give you the distance between Seireitei and the Royal Realm if you don't know it already.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Also inconsistent, I think. Aizen immediately shut down the idea in the main revisions last time mainly due to their inconsistency.
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Yeah I remember, it sucks that we never got a solid number to use for the multipler.
 
@Knight

To be honest, calcs and scaling will always ruin things and make even established multipliers inconsistent. Just look at the difference between Yamamoto's Shikai and Bankai in power.

And there are people like Shunsui and Urahara whose Bankai seem to be just hax. Hitsugaya said there's barely a difference in power between his Shikai and Bankai, just that he gets more ice to play with.
 
The thing with the Auschwalen is that its can only be scaled through the Ichigo that would have taken a week to get there. Which would have to be Fullbring Bankai Ichigo, who we do not know the speed of...
 
Maybe it's in terms of their abilities. I guess we could use a RPG system for that.

Ichigo's Bankai and some others are just raw stats
 
Bleach has a lot of light feats regardless of all these numbers, whether they're outliers is case-by-case.
 
Don't think Auswahlen would be an outlier. For Yoruichi and Suì-Fēng, pre-timeskip characters are backwards scaling from some Blood War characters, so it could act as a supporting feat.
 
this is pretty much stacking speed to power in a 1:1 ratio which is never the case, even in real life increasing speed is vastly harder than strength, we do kno that increasing reiatsu/spirit increases speed as Matsumoto shown against the arrancar grimmjow brought along the first time, she was getting speed blitz and after releasing the seal she blitz the arranar with ease, the question is how much of a speed boost does a shinigami get in comparison to power

ichigo had a hard time deaing with Gins 500 Mach bankai, so his speed from SS bankai to FKT is actually pretty similar.

Ichibei highest feat and also consider the strongest shinigami= 3927km in an instant if you take 1 sec as min which by shinigami is alot oftime in reality, 1 sec even for an average person is more than enough to react to almost anything= Mach 10k+
 
And some translations he says "Did ya catch that ?" instead of "Did ya hear that ?" which he would mean that he was saying that about him clapping his hands
 
Not sure what you mean, but "did you catch that?" can also be interpreted as "did you hear that?", "did you grab that?", or "did you get that?" and such.

It doesn't necessarily mean to literally catch something.
 
I mean he didn't even say it was 500 times faster than sound, he just clapped his hands and said it was 500 times faster than that, and I'm sitting there thinking "Did he pulled that out of nowhere ?" And all we saw in the anime was his blade becoming some sort of light dust
 
He sort of did. The noise from his hands clapping together is sound. Then he said his Bankai is 500 times faster than that.

He just didn't say it directly.
 
In the Databook Unmasked it's stated it's Mach 500..This means he lied to Aizen and not Ichigo.The Blade extends and dispersed into dust I think.
 
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