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>Exactly my point, Dialga from Mystery Dungeon gets scaled above baseline for passively doing it, that doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't passively destroy a space-time continuum or supports it, suddenly isn't low 2-C anymore.
Of course not. I never once said you can't be Low 2-C for not being a passive. My point was that doing it passively can make up for the lack of immediate destruction that would normally be required for feats to be tiered that high. That way, even if the feat takes time to do, if it's extremely casual then that speaks more on your part of being tiered that high when using your actual strength.
Hence why the Sol Emeralds are 2-C. Had they not do it passively, and still took a period of time to accomplish their feats, their 2-C rating would be put into question.
>This means that Cal is opposed to the current rating of the Sol Emeralds, however if it were still an overtime feat but it dragged both universes then it would be 2-C, no indication of it being passive having anything to do with it whatsoever.
Being against the current rating has nothing to do with this. If it's wrong, it's wrong but for different reasons. Cal's opinion is based on the emeralds pulling one universe instead of them both (which is being disputed in this very thread), which would be Low 2-C even with it being passive since it's only effecting 1 universe. It has no bearing on the emeralds being 2-C for pulling both simutaneously and passively.
>IIRC nothing gets destroyed on screen in Sonic Rush yet that is still 2-C or at worst low 2-C as said by Cal (and 2-C if it fills the requirements that the Navigator fulfills)
I dont know what Sonic Rush does, so you'll need to ask someone else. But either way, it's still another false equivalence to this. Not destroying something on screen =/= doing it overtime. If it's offscreen from the start, nothing implies it takes time for it's feat to be completed. The Navigator is blatantly shown on-screen to not destroy any universe at all when Eon actively uses it to destroy existence, which does imply time is needed for it to actually destroy everything.
>This is more of a psychological problem, you would essentially be nuking away a part of yourself and the personalities are created or developed by the Celestialsapiens themselves in the first place.
This doesn't matter. Celestialsapiens are stated to be able to rewrite universal concepts, time and space and are apparently stated to imagine any power they want. Wanting to take the latter literally, there's 0 reason to think they wouldnt be able to modify themselves in that nature to rid themselves of something thats trival and an obstacle.
>Also Alien X is treated as that one trump card that can beat everything so yeah he wouldn't actually need any other alien in the Omnitrix but where's the fun in that?
Being able to stomp every enemy doesnt mean Alien X would be useful in the regards of making use of other alien abilities. Either way, the point still stands. It is no where near consistent enough to claim Alien X can give him any power he wants.
>Creating portals where people stand for sure tears them apart so it can be used offensively.
Thats not portal creation. That would be space-time manipulation used offensively. Portals just send you to different locations.
Of course not. I never once said you can't be Low 2-C for not being a passive. My point was that doing it passively can make up for the lack of immediate destruction that would normally be required for feats to be tiered that high. That way, even if the feat takes time to do, if it's extremely casual then that speaks more on your part of being tiered that high when using your actual strength.
Hence why the Sol Emeralds are 2-C. Had they not do it passively, and still took a period of time to accomplish their feats, their 2-C rating would be put into question.
>This means that Cal is opposed to the current rating of the Sol Emeralds, however if it were still an overtime feat but it dragged both universes then it would be 2-C, no indication of it being passive having anything to do with it whatsoever.
Being against the current rating has nothing to do with this. If it's wrong, it's wrong but for different reasons. Cal's opinion is based on the emeralds pulling one universe instead of them both (which is being disputed in this very thread), which would be Low 2-C even with it being passive since it's only effecting 1 universe. It has no bearing on the emeralds being 2-C for pulling both simutaneously and passively.
>IIRC nothing gets destroyed on screen in Sonic Rush yet that is still 2-C or at worst low 2-C as said by Cal (and 2-C if it fills the requirements that the Navigator fulfills)
I dont know what Sonic Rush does, so you'll need to ask someone else. But either way, it's still another false equivalence to this. Not destroying something on screen =/= doing it overtime. If it's offscreen from the start, nothing implies it takes time for it's feat to be completed. The Navigator is blatantly shown on-screen to not destroy any universe at all when Eon actively uses it to destroy existence, which does imply time is needed for it to actually destroy everything.
>This is more of a psychological problem, you would essentially be nuking away a part of yourself and the personalities are created or developed by the Celestialsapiens themselves in the first place.
This doesn't matter. Celestialsapiens are stated to be able to rewrite universal concepts, time and space and are apparently stated to imagine any power they want. Wanting to take the latter literally, there's 0 reason to think they wouldnt be able to modify themselves in that nature to rid themselves of something thats trival and an obstacle.
>Also Alien X is treated as that one trump card that can beat everything so yeah he wouldn't actually need any other alien in the Omnitrix but where's the fun in that?
Being able to stomp every enemy doesnt mean Alien X would be useful in the regards of making use of other alien abilities. Either way, the point still stands. It is no where near consistent enough to claim Alien X can give him any power he wants.
>Creating portals where people stand for sure tears them apart so it can be used offensively.
Thats not portal creation. That would be space-time manipulation used offensively. Portals just send you to different locations.
