A WoD Discussion thread

[Udlmaster]

Hi, btw is caine really a mage or the first vampire or just both?

Caine was awakened, but his abilities as a Mage were corrupted by his curse which created the Bloodline disciplines as we know it in VTM

if he is a mage too then what is his mage rank then?

He doesn't really scale to them

like is he a oracle or archmage like stated in the Caine's profile?

I used to rank him amongst Archmages because as a Statless being I would rank them above provided stats, however, I disagree with my old position now.

can he be boundless due to being a archmage?

Now he no longer scales to Mages, he has very impressive hax, but his tiered scaling is only around Low 2-C

 

[DOOMSLAYER127]

Caine was awakened, but his abilities as a Mage were corrupted by his curse which created the Bloodline disciplines as we know it in VTM


He doesn't really scale to them

I used to rank him amongst Archmages because as a Statless being I would rank them above provided stats, however, I disagree with my old position now.

Now he no longer scales to Mages, he has very impressive hax, but his tiered scaling is only around Low 2-C

What about his killing angel feat? is that also a low 2c feat as well?

 

[DOOMSLAYER127]

Caine was awakened, but his abilities as a Mage were corrupted by his curse which created the Bloodline disciplines as we know it in VTM


He doesn't really scale to them

I used to rank him amongst Archmages because as a Statless being I would rank them above provided stats, however, I disagree with my old position now.

Now he no longer scales to Mages, he has very impressive hax, but his tiered scaling is only around Low 2-C

So are you going to update his profile in the future?

 

[Gasper]

So... the revision has been accepted. The only thing that has changed is universe being 1-A+ instead of high 1-A. This means the multiverse is now high 1-A and the tepestry is now baseline instead of infinite layers into tier 0

 

[Dinoanime7]

So... the revision has been accepted. The only thing that has changed is universe being 1-A+ instead of high 1-A. This means the multiverse is now high 1-A and the tepestry is now baseline instead of infinite layers into tier 0

Pretty sure when revisions are accepted they close the thread, it hasn’t really been closed yet, and Anti would’ve said to close it. We have to wait for the final conclusions.

 

[Dinoanime7]

Eventually, but I plan to fill out the Vampire pages before I do Mage character pages

Will the page be similar in structure with the Void profile where you have Civilization Tier etc.?

 

[Gasper]

Sorry for being annoying but i would just want to ask if atzmus, a supreme being from kabbalah which even transends concepts of finite/infinite aka ein soph is in wod.

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

They pretty easily get infinite speed, since they can do stuff like cut something infinite times.

If I were to guess, maybe like FTL with dodging laser guns

They pretty easily get infinite speed, since they can do stuff like cut something infinite times.

If I were to guess, maybe like FTL with dodging laser guns

How resistant are mages to their own hax? Like Ik mages basically got resistance 99% of hax but to what degree

 

[Gasper]

How resistant are mages to their own hax? Like Ik mages basically got resistance 99% of hax but to what degree

Depends on what level their hax works at

 

[Udlmaster]

How resistant are mages to their own hax? Like Ik mages basically got resistance 99% of hax but to what degree

They fight each other a lot and are able to resist them to the point they fizzle out.

What about his killing angel feat? is that also a low 2c feat as well?

Killing an Angel doesn't really have a Tier because Angels range from just Messengers to Archangels.

 

[DOOMSLAYER127]

They fight each other a lot and are able to resist them to the point they fizzle out.

Killing an Angel doesn't really have a Tier because Angels range from just Messengers to Archangels.

Btw how the 7 fold curse work? like if a opponent just tried to killed caine, only the opponent dies not caine?

 

[Udlmaster]

Btw how the 7 fold curse work? like if a opponent just tried to killed caine, only the opponent dies not caine?

Any damage is inflicted 7x over to the attacker and if Caine dies, the killer dies a 7x worse death

 

[DOOMSLAYER127]

Caine was awakened, but his abilities as a Mage were corrupted by his curse which created the Bloodline disciplines as we know it in VTM


He doesn't really scale to them

I used to rank him amongst Archmages because as a Statless being I would rank them above provided stats, however, I disagree with my old position now.

Now he no longer scales to Mages, he has very impressive hax, but his tiered scaling is only around Low 2-C

Tell me about his very impressive hax please.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Tell me about his very impressive hax please.

every vampire hax which includes stuff like

turning illusions to reality and even make them permanent
stealth so good the universe forgets about you
time hax
bfr
the power to create new disciplines and more

 

[Gasper]

How powerful are the anticrist and metatron?

 

[Udlmaster]

How powerful are the anticrist and metatron?

Anti-Christ, no idea, he's actually never mentioned as an extant being, he's likely an Eschatological entity, meaning he'll show up in the future, but not now, since that's like his whole thing, along with Rapture and what not.

As for Metatron, we get very (and I mean VERY) little text on him besides him being a very dangerous Angel and possibly taking Lucifer's place as the guardian of Eden after Lucifer was... ya know.

 

[Gasper]

Anti-Christ, no idea, he's actually never mentioned as an extant being, he's likely an Eschatological entity, meaning he'll show up in the future, but not now, since that's like his whole thing, along with Rapture and what not.

As for Metatron, we get very (and I mean VERY) little text on him besides him being a very dangerous Angel and possibly taking Lucifer's place as the guardian of Eden after Lucifer was... ya know.

I heard antichrist is personification of "existence" and transcends the concept of "infinity". Are antichrist and dajjal the same being?
Also how powerful are djinn?

 

[Gasper]

Is the movie underworld based on wod?

 

[Udlmaster]

I heard antichrist is personification of "existence" and transcends the concept of "infinity". Are antichrist and dajjal the same being?
Also how powerful are djinn?

I have never heard this. This sounds like total fan fiction lmao.

Djinn are pretty powerful Umbrood

Is the movie underworld based on wod?

No, but it was so similar to VtM and WtA that White Wolf sued the producers of the movie along side Nancy Collins in 2003, but they settled privately, so we don't know what happened.

 

[Gasper]

I have never heard this. This sounds like total fan fiction lmao.

Djinn are pretty powerful Umbrood

No, but it was so similar to VtM and WtA that White Wolf sued the producers of the movie along side Nancy Collins in 2003, but they settled privately, so we don't know what happened.

Ah thanks for replying.
I would just want to ask how powerful is sun wukong? I know he is a godhead but does he have any feats or just scales to the majority?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Ah thanks for replying.
I would just want to ask how powerful is sun wukong? I know he is a godhead but does he have any feats or just scales to the majority?

he is a totem spirit. probably High 1A

 

[Gasper]

he is a totem spirit. probably High 1A

Does he have any feats?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Does he have any feats?

no. Just a mention on book about spirits

 

[Gasper]

When the wyrm gets his profile will he have 4 different keys? Avatar key, apophis key, hydra key and his true form key?

 

[Gasper]

Also fun fact: vishnu is sometimes in hindu scriptures depicted as a spider and the web represents endless creation. Which is why weaver is depicted in the form of the spider.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Question will we get more WOD profiles that are very matchable because a lot of them seem unmatchable,

 

[Udlmaster]

Question will we get more WOD profiles that are very matchable because a lot of them seem unmatchable,

Have you checked out the Vampire the Masquerade section?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Have you checked out the Vampire the Masquerade section?

Sort of because of markus but got anymore?

maybe a link or two

 

[Udlmaster]

Sort of because of markus but got anymore?

maybe a link or two

Nergal (World of Darkness)

The being known as Nergal is known by many other names, Huitzilopochtli, Slave Boy, Shaitan, Baali and Ba'al. Whatever his true name is, he's the renown creator of the Baali bloodline, having consorted with Demons and powers beyond, he elevated his Bloodline to greater heights in an effort to...

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Cappadocius

Cappadocius, real name Unknown, childer of Irad and Founder of the Clan Cappadocian. He was embraced 10,000 years ago in the First City, Enoch. Once ruler of the Cappadocian clan of Vampires, Cappadocius was unique in his lack of interest in the politics of the other Antediluvians or in...

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Baba Yaga (World of Darkness)

Baba Yaga is the infamous Witch and Fourth Generation Methuselah from Old Russia from 5,000 BCE. Before becoming embraced she fought Absimiliard to a stand-still, summoning all the power of Russia to defeat him, however, clever and wicked Absimiliard was able to win in the end. Baba Yaga made...

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It's all in the VTM section with pictures as links

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Nergal (World of Darkness)

The being known as Nergal is known by many other names, Huitzilopochtli, Slave Boy, Shaitan, Baali and Ba'al. Whatever his true name is, he's the renown creator of the Baali bloodline, having consorted with Demons and powers beyond, he elevated his Bloodline to greater heights in an effort to...

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Cappadocius

Cappadocius, real name Unknown, childer of Irad and Founder of the Clan Cappadocian. He was embraced 10,000 years ago in the First City, Enoch. Once ruler of the Cappadocian clan of Vampires, Cappadocius was unique in his lack of interest in the politics of the other Antediluvians or in...

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Baba Yaga (World of Darkness)

Baba Yaga is the infamous Witch and Fourth Generation Methuselah from Old Russia from 5,000 BCE. Before becoming embraced she fought Absimiliard to a stand-still, summoning all the power of Russia to defeat him, however, clever and wicked Absimiliard was able to win in the end. Baba Yaga made...

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It's all in the VTM section with pictures as links

I think I saw the baba yaga one but the problem is the powers have various levels so I have go and check every single one.

 

[Udlmaster]

I think I saw the baba yaga one but the problem is the powers have various levels so I have go and check every single one.

It has to be done, because I've tried doing it the other way and...

BTW, that was about 1/10th the way through the P&A section for Malakai, who's new P&A looks like this:

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

It has to be done, because I've tried doing it the other way and...

Yeah that’s one reason why I prefer characters like markus

I don’t want to spend a lot of time going through things. That’s just me

 

[Udlmaster]

The note from Malakai's profile explains what's the idea:

Due to the extended list of abilities, they have been abbreviated to their discipline at that level listed, meaning all abilities of that level and below are accessible by the character. Additionally, Malakai has only three listed Disciplines in which she specialized in, Auspex, Phantasm (A fusion between Chimestry and Dementation exclusive to her) and Obfuscate, however, likely possesses many more.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I think I’ll just stick to the lower levels of WOD in terms of power and abilities as well as tier level

 

[Udlmaster]

I think I’ll just stick to the lower levels of WOD in terms of power and abilities as well as tier level

Vampires ARE the lower levels.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Vampires ARE the lower levels.

Understand just want to make sure not too much hax, sorry if I’m getting on your nerves udl

 

[Dinoanime7]

Alright I do have two questions how powerful are the Void Engineers?

And overall which faction would you rank most powerful to lowest?

 

[Udlmaster]

Alright I do have two questions how powerful are the Void Engineers?

And overall which faction would you rank most powerful to lowest?

Void Engineers are a branch of the Technocracy in a bid to understand the Umbra

If you mean strongest faction in the Technocracy, then the Ivory Tower

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Omniscience exists in WOD right?

 

[Dinoanime7]

Void Engineers are a branch of the Technocracy in a bid to understand the Umbra

I’m more of asking like how powerful is that branch overall if you get what I mean.

If you mean strongest faction in the Technocracy, then the Ivory Tower

Not within the faction but basically all the factions participating in the Ascension War.