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That's a reasonable assumption, not enough to base a vote around for me. You could vote based on that tho.
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A Half-Ghost vs A Half-God: Danny Phantom vs Fusion Zamasu
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Can't Danny deconstruct Zamasu with a beam?
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Does the deconstruction been shown to bypass barriers? Is it more in-character than possession?
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Oh barrier (is it passive?), not AFAIK, unless Danny can make it intangible or smth. It's probably about as in-character.
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Wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of throwing a beam? If it is intangible to bypass the barrier it would go through Zamasu as well (cuz u know, it's intangible)
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Mid-Godly regeneration…
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Even if not passive, he does start with it (alongside his nuke/danmaku bs)
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Danny Phantom has regeneration negation, wouldn't that be enough to affect Zamasu?
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Not on Zamasu's level, so no.
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What’s a deconstruction beam gonna do anyways lol
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I see, I thought I might be of some help
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Hey bro, about possessing others, I believe he has a limit for that, his energy would run out in a certain time and he would transform back into a human.
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He only needs to do it for 1 hour to count for incap win. He can go entire nights worth of fighting according to his profile, so that's more than enough.
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So incapacitating for an hour would be a win? I understand
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Make it tangible again at the right time (I have no idea if he can do any of that, but it wouldn’t surprise me)
Danny has time to realize he needs to possess while Zamasu is regenerating.
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He can make the attack tangible just as it passes through the barrier. He's done this before to attack others just as his attack phases through the floor he turned it intangibile
It doesn't matter since Zamasu is 2-C but it's Danny at his strongest.
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He uses it on non ghost entities when he needs to get what he wants. Since Zamasu isn't a ghost, Danny has a mid chance at going for it at best. He'll likely go ice first before anything else.
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So I'm assuming it's End 4-A Danny, gotcha. I needed to be sure since Danny has multiple tiers
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You just forgot to consider that Zamasu cannot affect Danny either. That would eventually cause him to resort to total destruction.
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Do you have proof of this?
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See this page
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As Griffin stated, for Danny to interact with the world, he has to take a physical form. That's what's Zamasu is gonna see at first.
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Evidence for both?
Well in season 2 Danny could phase through GIW weapons which are stated to use ectoplasm (I can find the scan but it will take some time). For the second, we currently accept ectoplasm as 4-D, others have already linked the thread where it was accepted.
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This reminds me that I need to remake that thread regarding Danny getting Deconstruction in his season 3 key because the arguments against it weren't convincing but I didn't have the time to debate it.
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Damn I guessed right lol.
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Danny assuming physical form means that Zamasu only one-shots, and watching Danny regenerate would find that AP alone won't be enough.
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Danny starts physical and will just phase through attacks when he needs to. Meaning regeneration won't come out initially. So Danny landing the first hit is likely, which will then tip him off that he'll need to use possession (or at least some hax).
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Not while Zamasu has Teleportation. Danny tries to punch, is surprised, obliterated to oblivion and forced to regenerate. Would have no reason for Zamasu to insist on only physical blows after that.
I'm also not sure exactly how Ectoplasm being 4-D or Zamasu's arrogance would have a decisive influence here. Nothing from Danny would make him withstand universal destruction and Zamasu would not let his guard down against an opponent with regeneration. I vote for Zamasu.
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Isn't it NLF to assume that Danny would come back from a 2-C destruction?
Zamasu opens another portal by opening another rift, I presume? And does Danny need to keep pressing the portal or something? That wouldn't deal with the clones in the long run.
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He can one shot but it's not like Danny can't dodge or use his intangibility to make sure that doesn't happen right off the bat, so he likely wouldn't find out instantly.
Zamasu didn't use Teleportation against Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks to my knowledge. He's immortal so I don't think he'd think Danny could do anything to him. I'm not saying him using it is impossible, just that I don't think Fusion Zamasu cared to use it in character.
Why would Zamasu nuke the universe? Or are you referring to just the force behind the blasts that hit Danny?. At the end of the day Zamasu isn't destroy Danny's soul or mind or eradicating him from the entire timeline, he's just destroying his physical for with overwhelming force which is irrelevant to Low-Godly regeneration. 4-D power is just 1 Dimension higher than 3-D but it doesn't allow you to destroy souls or the mind, you need feats for that aka Non-Physical Interaction which Zamasu doesn't have currently to my knowledge.
And the argument that Zamasu wouldn't let his guard down because Danny can regenerate isn't solid in my opinion because he continued to be arrogant against a group of characters who consistently retaliated and reached his power and overwhelmed him on multiple occasions, and fooled around with the humans despite having the power to stomp all of them and wanting to destroy all mortals. So I don't see why he'd suddenly go full psycho because of Danny regenerating. Pissed off sure but not enough to go ballistic (at least not right from the start in my opinion)
How is it NFL? 2-C destruction is only being done to his "physical form", not his soul/mind so why would that stop him from reforming a new body.
Black opened one portal and didn't bother to do it again after the first was closed or even while it was open. So why would Fusion Zamasu spam it? As for the other part, Danny just has to blast the portal with the Fenton Thermos which doesn't take any energy from him. But sure, if Zamasu spams it then it would just be an endless cycle until one gives up which I guess might be Danny though Zamasu's stamina isn't gone into on his page.
I completely forgot that I made a thread about what would happen to Danny Phantom if Danny Fenton is killed and it was accepted. But I forgot to add it when I reworked the profile so I need to make another thread to explain it again and if so yeah, Zamasu killing Danny Fenton woul just turn him into Danny Phantom (full time super hero!) Only those who watch Danny Phantom know what that last part.
The gist of it is, Danny Fenton/Danny Phantom are just halfs of each other that don't require the other in order to survive. They have been split on multiple occasions and are considered to be two separate entities at times and the destruction of Danny Phantom has no barring on Danny Fenton so the destruction of Danny Fenton wouldn't have any barring on Danny Phantom. I'll need to make another thread about it though to compile the evidence again since I can't find the last thread and I don't want to just add a note without anything attached to it regardless of if it was accepted before so I guess that's what I'm about to do today.
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man can anyone summary what is danny wincon ?,maybe zamasu too
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Whats Zamasu winco then?
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Yeah, if killing the human doesn't stop the ghost, Zamasu doesn't have a wincon.
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If this is true, then Zamasu doesn't have a wincon.
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I'm the only one who doesn't know this wincon here? '-'
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