A God Monke fights an Alicorn princess.

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Goku VS Twilight Sparkle​

Time to put Goku into another test.

Context:​

Goku is training to improve his strength and abilities to face powerful foes in the upcoming seasons with the purpose of one day getting prepared to have a rematch with Jiren, during the aftermath, Goku tests himself in a lot of different challenges to further surpass his limits as more as he gets development, one day, Goku finds the existence of Twilight who wants to test her powers as a princess, Goku challenges Twilight for a fight in a desired location, looking for new ways of improving himself to surpass his difficulties.

Conditions set:​

• Speed is equalized.
• They start 1 kilometer apart from each other.
• Goku starts in his Third Ultra Instinct -Sign- key and can go up to higher forms including true Ultra Instinct.
• The battle takes place in the Mysterious Dimension.
• Post-Timeskip Alicorn Twilight is being used.
• Both are Low 2-C and nothing above it.
• Battle Music, for fun.

Saiyan God: Coolboy6, sanicspood, Mariogoods, RandomGuy2345, FluffyCreatureZ, Cul0r, Meganova_Stella, Orange (8)


Alicorn Princess: Bababo (1)


Incon:

 

[Coolboy6]

Twi has the AP advantage via downscaling to 2-C. goku would sense that and go ultra instinct immediately and pretty much dodges most of Twi’s attacks. Voting Goku low-mid diff.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Counted.

 

[sanicspood]

Goku fra

 

[Bernkastelll]

Twi has the AP advantage via downscaling to 2-C. goku would sense that and go ultra instinct immediately and pretty much dodges most of Twi’s attacks. Voting Goku low-mid diff.

Ultra Instinct doesnt last that much, it only have 1 minute

 

[sanicspood]

1 minute is already enough to passively get stronger mid fight + dodge all her attacks and eventually over whelm her like he did with jiren

 

[Bernkastelll]

1 minute is already enough to passively get stronger mid fight + dodge all her attacks and eventually over whelm her like he did with jiren

Well, the dude above said that she downscales to 2-C while Goku is just half 2-C or whatever that thing works, so, I don't think that it is enough, but i dont really have inputs about that

 

[sanicspood]

Goku also downscales from a 2-c feat, and can get even higher into it while fighting

 

[Bernkastelll]

Goku also downscales from a 2-c feat, and can get even higher into it while fighting

his way to downscale is a half 2-C feat, which is half of the power of a 2-C, but I dont know how twilight downscaling works

 

[Mariogoods]

I vote to Goku FRA.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I feel like I've seen this debate 20 times already.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

1 minute is already enough to passively get stronger mid fight + dodge all her attacks and eventually over whelm her like he did with jiren

Just a reminder, Ul in this case might last longer than it did in the tournament due to the fact that Goku isn't massively injured and tired from his previous fights which basically dropped some of his stamina down.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Anyways, my votes for Goku because of Coolboy's reasons.

 

[Orioreeem]

his way to downscale is a half 2-C feat, which is half of the power of a 2-C, but I dont know how twilight downscaling works

Half 2-C isn't a thing anymore. I think he is extermely close to 2-C

 

[sanicspood]

Just a reminder, Ul in this case might last longer than it did in the tournament due to the fact that Goku isn't massively injured and tired from his previous fights which basically dropped some of his stamina down.

True

 

[Lou_change]

What stops her from grabbing him with telekinesis.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

What stops her from grabbing him with telekinesis.

Does she actually starts by using this in-character? I'm actually pretty sure someone quoted out that she normally uses projectile-based magic.

But anyway, MLP supporters, so I'll just wait for further input.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I don't think goku can access ultra instinct at will here, change it to his 2-C key UI sign 3 so they start even (because if Goku goes UI in blue he'll blitz).

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

I don't think goku can access ultra instinct at will here, change it to his 2-C key UI sign 3 so they start even (because if Goku goes UI in blue he'll blitz).

That's fine, I'll do that in a few minutes.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

I changed it to Third UI Sign if this makes it more fair in the measurement.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Alright can that pink horse kill Goku before he goes mastered ultra instinct and destroy it?

 

[sanicspood]

What stops her from grabbing him with telekinesis.

She doesn’t start with telekinesis lmao, she starts with energy blasts and shi

 

[sanicspood]

Alright can that pink horse kill Goku before he goes mastered ultra instinct and destroy it?

*violet

 

[Lightbuster30]

If he keeps dodging she will go for it. She's liable to seal him negate him, or grab him. Spells can be cast omnidirectionally so UI isn't saving him when she decides to go for it, which will be soon. She's not dumb enough to keep using a laser that continually gets dodged over and over again.

 

[sanicspood]

So it depends on if goku kills her before she starts using her other stuff

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

Anyways, this is not correlated with the thread's topic but I honestly think Goku's LS should be Multi-Stellar instead of unknown.

 

[Lightbuster30]

They're comparable in AP. Not even in Mastered Ultra Instinct does he have enough power to kill quickly enough, given the Low 2-Cs can destroy a 2-C when working together. She's going to get annoyed quickly from never landing a hit and promptly go for an omniblast.

Hell, even their shields can momentarily withstand blows from 2-Cs (But they get badly damaged and cracked in the process), so Twilight can just block whatever he throws at her.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Can Goku use instant transmission to escape her attacks that can't be dodged? Goku scales above his tier a good bit with a scaling chain, what's stopping him from doing this and GG?

That pink horse needs to win before Goku reaches UI, or else it's all over.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Can Goku use instant transmission to escape her attacks that can't be dodged? Goku scales above his tier a good bit with a scaling chain, what's stopping him from doing this and GG?

That pink horse needs to win before Goku reaches UI, or else it's all over.

Shield, gg. They've used shields even when caught off-guard. Is he doing IT on her just to be sure? Because she's the only one around to lock onto.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Shield, gg. They've used shields even when caught off-guard. Is he doing IT on her just to be sure? Because she's the only one around to lock onto.

What's the horse AP looking like? Goku can get much stronger passively with saiyan genes and UI and already scales above his value like this, at least universe+ < beerus < Belmod < Jiren = sign Goku. If Goku is much stronger then the shields mean pretty much nothing, and are they passive or something? If they're not then Goku can instant transmission directly to close range and kamehameha before horse can react.

 

[sanicspood]

they passive or something

No

 

[Lightbuster30]

@FluffyCreatureZ Already explained why he's not breaking the shields. Even full 2-Cs can only badly damage them. And no, she will react to an instant transmission. Already explained that getting caught off-guard like that isn't a big problem for shields. If a 2-C is only capable of that, a high-end Low 2-C, ain;t doing much better.

Furthermore, the move still has to travel and hit her. His teleportation is instant, not his beam, which still has to actually travel, even if Goku throws it straight after teleporting. She's reacted to lasers and pulled up a full-body shield in response far closer than IT can pull off. She has plenty of time to react even at if he ITs at close range.

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

So, defensive type Twilight is actually better while Goku maintains the advantage at H2H thanks to instinctive reactions?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

@FluffyCreatureZ Already explained why he's not breaking the shields. Even full 2-Cs can only badly damage them. And no, she will react to an instant transmission. Already explained that getting caught off-guard like that isn't a big problem for shields.

Furthermore, the move still has to travel and hit her. His teleportation is instant, not his beam, which still has to actually travel, even if Goku throws it straight after teleporting. She's reacted to lasers and pulled up a full-body shield in response far closer than IT can pull off. She has plenty of time to react even at if he ITs at close range.

He still should be able to break the shield, the shield are still universe+ not low multiversal, and Beerus who performed a 2-C feat with champa can do it casually, and Goku is >>> beerus and his kamehameha one shots dudes on his level and he's also getting stronger as he's fighting. Why will she react? Goku is passively getting faster, by the time he dodges all her moves and charges the attack, he will already be faster than she can react to in time, especially when she gets caught off guard at such a close range. Also, MUI stomps, it's over if he reaches that.

 

[Bernkastelll]

He still should be able to break the shield, the shield are still universe+ not low multiversal, and Beerus who performed a 2-C feat with champa can do it casually, and Goku is >>> beerus and his kamehameha one shots dudes on his level and he's also getting stronger as he's fighting. Why will she react? Goku is passively getting faster, by the time he dodges all her moves and charges the attack, he will already be faster than she can react to in time, especially when she gets caught off guard at such a close range. Also, MUI stomps, it's over if he reaches that.

Her durability with these stuff is rated as 2-C, he wont break it, unless the 2-C dura thing is not the shield

 

[Lightbuster30]

He still should be able to break the shield, the shield are still universe+ not low multiversal

Of course they aren't. 2-C attacks badly damage them. So, they can't be 2-C by default. Doesn't change the fact that they're still strong enough to take the blow without completely shattering at the first hit thus providing protection no matter how strong he gets.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Her durability with these stuff is rated as 2-C, he wont break it, unless the 2-C dura thing is not the shield

?

 

[Lightbuster30]

?

Her durability is rated as 2-C with the Elements of Harmony or Rainbow Power.

 

[Lightbuster30]

If we really wanna talk about powering up and stomping, then Twilight pulls an Uno reverse card by triggering the Magic of Friendship, teleporting her friends to her, and supercharging herself with said Magic of Friendship. Then she jumps straight to 2-C and gains a passive shield.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Her durability with these stuff is rated as 2-C, he wont break it, unless the 2-C dura thing is not the shield

No they aren't. At least Solar System level, likely at least Universe level+ (Should be about even with Celestia's)

Of course they aren't. 2-C attacks badly damage them. So, they can't be 2-C by default. Doesn't change the fact that they're still strong enough to take the blow without completely shattering at the first hit thus providing protection no matter how strong he gets.

No? So they just downscale from 2-C. How is that any different from beerus and champa performing a 2-C as a mere side effect of their fight? And Goku is then >>> Beerus. I don't see how you got that they won't break.