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A Better World

WeeklyBattles said:
She resists mind hax by default by virtue of being a life fiber hybrid and being ble to wear a kamui. Clothing with just a single strand of life fibers sewn into them can passively mind hax people and a uniform that is only 50% life fibers turns a normal human into a berserk monster or outright kills them, whereas Ragyo's body itself is 70% life fibers and a kamui is 100% life fibers
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That's not that far above baseline tho, ceratinly not to Madara's level

anyway Madara FRA
 
Life Fibers mind haxxed the entire planet so

For what reasons exactly? The people who voted for Madara have changed their votes and are now saind Ragyo wins
 
Not really? You still gave no way for her to do anything about him just using his truth seeking orbs to make a sphere around himself.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Against 8th Gate Guy and Obito and Kakashi fighting him.
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Is that the fight wher Guy kicked madara's torso in half? Because a TSB barrier should have prevented that
 
There is a whole section of the battle where Minato uses his teleportation to get rid of the orbs.

In a one on one, Gai would have been long since dead.
 
He had help from two different space time abilities to get into range. Guy's final attack bend space to prevent his TSO staff from touching him. Madara also wanted to take him head-on to acknowledge him as the best taijutsu user he's ever fought because of how strong he was without using ninjutsu or genjutsu so he deactivated his barrier.

TLDR: The reason Guy hit him is because he warped space.
 
No because the only reason why Madara did that was because Guy used the 8th gate of death and Guy had beaten him up a bit. Also if Madara uses his dojutsu to see how much stronger she is, he will be very cautious.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
So they can be removed? Why cant Ragyo do the same?
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Because she can't warp space and time.

WeeklyBattles said:
@Emperor Ragyo doesnt use ninjutsu or genjutsu either so wouldnt Madara think the same of Ragyo?
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He wanted to use it against a purely physical combatant, and its by far the easiest way to not be hit by an aoe attack.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Doesnt dojutsu only read chakra?
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That is a non-sequitor but no. It also reacts to purely physical stuff just as well.

Plus, even without chakra she would have yang at least, be it equalized with life felibers or just a thing that she has.
 
Ah okay

Actually i looked into it and Life Fiber energy is actually really, really close to Natural Energy, whereas the life fibers themselves are close to Yang
 
https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Natural_Energy

"Natural energy circulates all throughout the world, but it is usually imperceptible."

Life Fibers exist in virtually every living thing on earth and everywhere on Earth but doesnt do things most of the time due to being dormant.

"In order to use senjutsu, one must first learn to sense the natural energy in their surroundings and draw it into their body, which requires becoming "one with nature" by remaining perfectly still. To control the natural energy they absorb, the user must balance it with their own physical and spiritual energies, which together make up chakra, in order to create senjutsu chakra."

Very few people are capable of withstanding life fiber energy, requiring years of physical and spiritual training in order to not be consumed by a single strand of it. Satsuki herself had to go through multiple spiritual cleansings and chakra alignments in order to properly wear her kamui.


"If this balance contains too little natural energy, senjutsu cannot be used, but too much makes the user turn to stone; in the case of humans, they first turn into animals before petrifying. This process can be reversed if the absorbed natural energy is expelled before the transformation is complete, and Fukasaku wields a staff capable of beating the natural energy out of a person on contact."

Life Fiber enrgy in imbalanced proportions on a normal person will turn them into monsters and/or outright kill them instantly. This can be undone through pressure point application that expels the life fiber energy from a person while also removing the life fibers from their body, and weapons exist that expel and nullify life fiber energy such as Tailor Needles.

"Members of Jügo's clan possess special bodies that can absorb natural energy and undergo transformations. However, this power also causes them to go berserk without warning. Through his research, Orochimaru developed an enzyme from Jügo's bodily fluids that is capable of inducing similar transformations in other shinobi. He is able to apply this power to others, alongside his own senjutsu chakra, in the form of cursed seals."

Ryuko and the experiments performed on her by Ragyo. Also Nui. Technically the Honouiji sewing club too as that is basically describing anyone with a 3-Star uniform.

"The Ten-Tails' vast power is described as feeling like natural energy itself; as such, it can only be sensed by those capable of using senjutsu. The beast is capable of manipulating natural energy, and by using its enormous chakra to disturb the natural energy in its surroundings, it can cause a series of natural disasters to occur. Natural energy is key to defeating the Ten-Tails' jinchüriki, whose body is immune to ninjutsu; Naruto Uzumaki describes this as fighting natural energy with natural energy."

Life Fiber energy is immune to virtually anything less that the power produced by another Life Fiber energy user and only weapons that are made from life fibers or directly nullify life fiber energy are capable of harming them.

"God Trees grow by absorbing their planet's natural energy, draining power from the environment and its inhabitants alike until the planet becomes a desolate world devoid of any life."

The Cocoon Genesis Sphere in a nutshell
 
I'll admit that does seem rather similar, but I still can't help but feel that it's actual effects are way too vidly different. Though, I have not watched kill la kill.

But if life fibers is equated with nature energy, that also means that Madara can absorb it.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
I'll admit that does seem rather similar, but I still can't help but feel that it's actual effects are way too vidly different. Though, I have not watched kill la kill.

But if life fibers is equated with nature energy, that also means that Madara can absorb it.
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Thats because the life fibers themselves, the actual physical things, are similar to Yang in function, whereas the actual energy they produce is similar to Nature

How does he do that?
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Yeah, Rinnegan can absorb Natural Energy. He just has to be careful about Absorbing a fuckton of it.
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How much is too much? Remember Ragyo is a LOT stronger than him here
 
Okay so we're back to Madara either getting oneshot immediately or immediately leading with a TSB barrier
 
Those things are besides him, his enemy is far stronger than him and she uses aoe. He has no reason to not use the TSB.
 
But how would he know that she's stronger than him and so much so that he needs to lead with it right off the bat? He didnt use it for the majority of his fights
 
Before we go any further, it should be established Ragyo having insane AOE with every attack isn't at all accurate

Her beating up Satsuki, her fighting Ryuko and Satsuki together, her super form fighting Kisaragi Ryuko, None of that had anything even remotely similar to what Warp is describing.

Even if it did, Inverse Square Law means Madara will only be tanking a tiny portion of the Shockwave anyway so by that account Ragyo having AOE would actually work against you, Weekly. Without it, Slicing and punching holes in him (which she likes to do to people) gets countered by regen.
 
He would lead with TSB barrier. His multiple forms of precognition and senses would let him know if he can take the attacks or not. Or he can block with his Limbo clones. If she melees first she would die to the TSBs. If not he would eventually win with TSBs combined with precognition. Or even seal her with CT. His absorption goes up to 5-C at least. And if he over absorbs he ends up becoming Kaguya so you kinda don't want that to happen. He didn't use them against people who were clearly his lessers and then when he did the they could ignore its effects.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Before we go any further, it should be established Ragyo having insane AOE with every attack isn't at all accurate

Her beating up Satsuki didn't have AOE

Her fighting Ryuko and Satsuki together didn't have AOE

Her fighting Kisaragi Ryuko didn't have AOE

Even if it did, Inverse Square Law means Madara will only be tanking an Immensely tiny portion of the shockwave
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Would you like scans of this? Because she absolutely did have massive AoE in these fights

The fight with Kisaragi took place in outer space so yeah thats why ther wasnt any aoe shockwaves
 
WeeklyBattles said:
ZephyrosOmega said:
Before we go any further, it should be established Ragyo having insane AOE with every attack isn't at all accurate

Her beating up Satsuki didn't have AOE

Her fighting Ryuko and Satsuki together didn't have AOE

Her fighting Kisaragi Ryuko didn't have AOE

Even if it did, Inverse Square Law means Madara will only be tanking an Immensely tiny portion of the shockwave
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Would you like scans of this? Because she absolutely did have massive AoE in these fights
The fight with Kisaragi took place in outer space so yeah thats why ther wasnt any aoe shockwaves
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I just watched the fights, there's nothing at all like what you're trying to say she has.
 
@Zephyr So is that a yes to scans? Because even her basic punches and casual kicks against satsuki cause massive shockwaves
 
You did not take into account a lot of things though. You used sharungan as the base. However he has the EMS. The base sharingan in its own already precogs. Each tomoe makes it far far better and the the MS on top of that and beyond that the EMS. That is about 4 stages above the base. So she can outpace some good senses and precognition but I don't think it goes to the level of the sharingan that Madara has. He also has his multiple senses. Note that when he got revived and lost his eyes he could out pace and inkre Sasuke's level of precognition which was an EMS at that time and proceeded to blitz people with no sight what so ever.

Well I am not on pc and have not seen her abilities if she can't deal with it at all then I don't know how it is fair either.
 
@Rocker Uzu didnt have sight for 95% of the series but still had that level of precognitive sense

But again, if he just TSB everything she has right off the bat how is this fair exactly?
 
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