6D Silver Bubbles

[Robo432343]

does anyone know a staff who is an expert on tier 1 stuff?

 

[Fixxed]

When did giving scale with assumptions begin? XD

Assumptions?? Bruh are you read the scan?? View as nonexistence you say assumptions?? When the scan is literally say about that??

I am not saying the above. Is this expression in the verse? I ask him Do not use the expressions not mentioned in the verse as a hypothesis here. Being "incalculable and inaccessible", or seeing it as infinitely small, does not mean seeing reality as non-existent. Additional statement required.

Hah?? I say "view reality as nonexistence is make you in higher reality"
and you say NO you also say many verse get reject because that reason, where i say being "incalculable and inaccessible"??? You cant prove what you say and now you want to be sneaky?

i say this

I happy this thread become alive

Well if you view the reality just as nonexistence is mean you in higher level of reality

And then you say this

Literally no. If you read what I wrote, you will understand what I mean. Many verses were rejected in this way.

 

[Dog3352]

This comment will now likely be ignored, but how about just stop using the same argument in every comment and just wait for the team to come take a look at the CRT?

 

[Georredannea15]

And as for newcomer @Georredannea15 lacks basic knowledge on scaling thats all. If he wants to disagree he should make a staff CRT and change the explanation page.

Dude called me ignorant XDXDXD,

With insufficient arguments, you're the one trying to raise your "favorite" character XDXDXD

Also, if someone disagrees with you, you shouldn't insult them. If you want to continue, we can handle this discussion in private... If you want action, I'm in.

 

[RaveeCPN]

bro did you just concede

I think he did lol

You say that seeing trivial and impossible is enough to "see it as more real" and "non existent". But it is not enough.

I mean, it's their reality that they see as almost non-existent. It's nothing else.

"Ignoring the realities of the world". As I just said, it's not a sufficient reason for qualitative superiority. As a physical or metaphysical superior, you may view a truth as "immaterial and impossible". Because you are completely independent of that reality, you are above (beyond) the order and laws of that reality. However, this is still not a qualitative superiortiy.

What the OP is talking about is not ignoring. It is to pretend it doesn't exist. There is a difference. I mean the context in the scans clearly shows that it is not what you say it is.

Anyway, this was my last reply (well I hope so). I don't plan to answer any more until one of staff members comes and gives his/her opinion.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

How nice. You now accept that the reality of the Bubble Worlds for Silver Bubbles is almost "non-existent".

What is insignificant here for those living in Silver Bubbles is the "reality" of the Bubble Worlds. Nothing else. That is already enough.

Fire Dew isn't equivalent to a World's reality, but the strength of a World's reality. That isn't the same thing. Silver Bubbles having stronger laws and concepts than Bubble Worlds doesn't make them 6D.

IE Silver Bubbles aren't more real than Bubble Worlds, they're just stronger.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

@MaxLevel_King has bad habit of thinking whatever he thinks is always correct even though his previous CRT no one supported his headcanons, he had mindset of his Opinion > others. So Let's wait for staff input. He is gonna Stonewall you with same Arguments again and again.

And as for newcomer @Georredannea15 lacks basic knowledge on scaling thats all. If he wants to disagree he should make a staff CRT and change the explanation page.

You have a bad habit of insulting anyone who disagrees with you. Knock it off.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Dude called me ignorant XDXDXD,

In a debate if someone ignores then calling them Ignorant isn't right?

With insufficient arguments, you're the one trying to raise your "favorite" character XDXDXD

I could say the same as a TENSURA fan you are trying to downplay Anos but I don't want to say it so stop with this childish accusations. Just so you don't understand tiering system doens't make others wrong.

Also, if someone disagrees with you, you shouldn't insult them. If you want to continue, we can handle this discussion in private... If you want action, I'm in.

What did I insulted? Using Fallacy and calling others Ignorant when they Ignores an argument isn't insulting if you are so sensitive for me calling you Ignorant just quit scaling.

 

[Georredannea15]

Assumptions?? Bruh are you read the scan?? View as nonexistence you say assumptions?? When the scan is literally say about that??

Seeing a world/reality as "insignificant" does not imply qualitative superiority. I've said before, there are many possibilities, qualitative superiority is one of them, and there are many more possibilities. Please read what I said.

Hah?? I say "view reality as nonexistence is make you in higher reality"
and you say NO you also say many verse get reject because that reason, where i say being "incalculable and inaccessible"??? You cant prove what you say and now you want to be sneaky?

i say this

And then you say this

Seeing a reality as "insignificant" or "unattainable" does not mean seeing that truth as non-existent. It has many meanings.

 

[Dog3352]

Fire Dew isn't equivalent to a World's reality, but the strength of a World's reality. That isn't the same thing. Silver Bubbles having stronger laws and concepts than Bubble Worlds doesn't make them 6D.

IE Silver Bubbles aren't more real than Bubble Worlds, they're just stronger.

No Dew = no Bubble World/Silver Bubble

Bubble World/Silver Bubble runs out of dew = Bubble world/Silver Bubble is destroyed

 

[Georredannea15]

I could say the same as a TENSURA fan you are trying to downplay Anos but I don't want to say it so stop with this childish accusations. Just so you don't understand tiering system doens't make others wrong.

I don't underestimate Anos. From the very beginning, I claim that Anos is low1c. But 6D silver bubble, and even 6D silver sea seems insufficient to me. The 5Dx99 is the best for Anos for me.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I don't underestimate Anos. From the very beginning, I claim that Anos is low1c. But 6D silver bubble, and even 6D silver sea seems insufficient to me. The 5Dx99 is the best for Anos for me.

Argument from incredibility. Nice way to Concede .

Ultima ( best Tier 1 staff) suggested and even agreed with 6D Silver Sea where you disgreeing with that only shows you lack knowledge on how dimensionality works.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

No Dew = no Bubble World/Silver Bubble Bubble World/Silver Bubble runs out of dew = Bubble world/Silver Bubble is destroyed

True. However,

No Dew = no Bubble World/Silver Bubble

Bubble World/Silver Bubble runs out of dew = Bubble world/Silver Bubble is destroyed

True, Worlds need Fire Dew to exist, but from there Fire Dew only strengthens Worlds, it doesn't make Worlds more real than others.

 

[Georredannea15]

Fire Dew isn't equivalent to a World's reality, but the strength of a World's reality. That isn't the same thing. Silver Bubbles having stronger laws and concepts than Bubble Worlds doesn't make them 6D.

IE Silver Bubbles aren't more real than Bubble Worlds, they're just stronger.

I mean exactly that. Seeing reality as "insignificant" does not make 6D. It can be conceptual, physical or metaphysical superiority.

 

[Fixxed]

Seeing a world/reality as "insignificant" does not imply qualitative superiority. I've said before, there are many possibilities, qualitative superiority is one of them, and there are many more possibilities. Please read what I said.

When my point is insignificant?? My point is nonexistence, you say it is assumsumtion when the scan literally stated about it

Seeing a world/reality as "insignificant" does not imply qualitative superiority. I've said before, there are many possibilities, qualitative superiority is one of them, and there are many more possibilities. Please read what I said.



Seeing a reality as "insignificant" or "unattainable" does not mean seeing that truth as non-existent. It has many meanings.

MY POINT IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT, you cant prove your own statement about nonexistence and then you wanna change it to insignificant???
I say prove view reality as nonexistence is get rejected to be higher reality as you say, prove about yggdrasil, bayonetta, doom view reality as nonexistence statement

 

[Dog3352]

True. However,

True, Worlds need Fire Dew to exist, but from there Fire Dew only strengthens Worlds, it doesn't make Worlds more real than others.

Nobody is saying that the fire dew makes it "more real", the difference between the bubble world and the silver bubble is not the same difference between a layer 1 silver bubble and a layer 2 silver bubble.

If I'm not mistaken, the main points are: The amount of fire dew of a bubble world is so insignificant that it can't even be measured Even the mere existence of a silver bubble being can end up destroying the bubble world. Bubble worlds cannot perceive existence outside the bubble world, and after evolving into a silver bubble it can perceive existence outside the bubble. When a bubble world evolves into a silver bubble, the bubble world is said to exert the limit by evolving into a silver bubble.

 

[Georredannea15]

Argument from incredibility. Nice way to Concede .

Ultima ( best Tier 1 staff) suggested and even agreed with 6D Silver Sea where you disgreeing with that only shows you lack knowledge on how dimensionality works.

Many mods had conflicting opinions on this.

Even Ultima had conflicts about it, and frankly, the atmosphere was chaos. Other than that, he found many mods insufficient and I think he accepted the ultima to calm the atmosphere (because of Toxic Anos fans). (Don't get me wrong, Ultima is best at this. )

 

[Georredannea15]

When my point is insignificant?? My point is nonexistence, you say it is assumsumtion when the scan literally stated about it

The scan doesn't say so. It simply states that there is an insignificant and incalculable difference between the realities of silver bubbles and the realities of bubble worlds. But this does not mean "seeing it a non-existence". So, it does not mean qualitative superiority.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Many mods had conflicting opinions on this.

Even Ultima had conflicts about it, and frankly, the atmosphere was chaos. Other than that, he found many mods insufficient and I think he accepted the ultima to calm the atmosphere

There were no mods what TF . Only Everything12 disagreed with Silver Sea rating and he himself agreed later on. Elizha , Dereck and Everything agreed with Ultima take. Don't bring something which doens't exists. "He accepted ? " Who is he ?

(because of Toxic Anos fans).

No wonder you want to downplay Anos.

(Don't get me wrong, Ultima is best at this. )

This wouldn't gain you anything after saying all of the above

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Fire Dew = Strength of a World's Order (Laws and Concepts/Reality)

Bubble Worlds have an insignificant amount of Fire Dew compared to Silver Bubbles.

Therefore, a Silver Bubble's reality is vastly stronger than a Bubble World's reality. However, a vastly stronger reality isn't equivalent to a higher dimension.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I don't underestimate Anos. From the very beginning, I claim that Anos is low1c. But 6D silver bubble, and even 6D silver sea seems insufficient to me. The 5Dx99 is the best for Anos for me.

(because of Toxic Anos fans).

With this I trust you. You ain't trying to downplay.

 

[Dog3352]

Fire Dew = Strength of a World's Order (Laws and Concepts/Reality)

Bubble Worlds have an insignificant amount of Fire Dew compared to Silver Bubbles.

Therefore, a Silver Bubble's reality is vastly stronger than a Bubble World's reality. However, a vastly stronger reality isn't equivalent to a higher dimension.

You're basically focusing on a single argument, and it's not even the main one.

 

[Georredannea15]

You're basically focusing on a single argument, and it's not even the main one.

The building block of arguments is based on this

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Fire Dew = Strength of a World's Order (Laws and Concepts/Reality)

Nice go back and read the Novels again. Fire dew is World itself.

　The amount of fire dew is directly related to the amount of magical power in the entire small world.
　To use fire dew as a pawn would certainly be tantamount to using the world itself as a pawn.

Bubble Worlds have an insignificant amount of Fire Dew compared to Silver Bubbles.

It's insignificant enough to not comprehend.

Therefore, a Silver Bubble's reality is vastly stronger than a Bubble World's reality. However, a vastly stronger reality isn't equivalent to a higher dimension.

Wow.

Layer 2 > Layer 1. By inhabitants of Silver Bubbles the difference is on the level of Dimensionality. According to you bubble world and Silver Bubbles have same size with zero proof

 

[MaxLevel_King]

With this I trust you. You ain't trying to downplay.

Disagreeing with a character's tier doesn't mean that they're trying to downplay that character. You have this strange perception that anyone who disagrees with anything related to Maou Gakuin's tiering has something against Maou Gakuin or Anos when that isn't the case. It's outright stupid to believe that.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

You're basically focusing on a single argument, and it's not even the main one.

The other arguments don't point towards 6D.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Disagreeing with a character's tier doesn't mean that they're trying to downplay that character. You have this strange perception that anyone who disagrees with anything related to Maou Gakuin's tiering has something against Maou Gakuin or Anos when that isn't the case. It's outright stupid to believe that.

Yeah tell that to your buddy who tried to say I have favouritism so i wanted to upgrade. Also I guess you wouldn't be able to understand this simple thing. I wonder why I am telling you this.

With insufficient arguments, you're the one trying to raise your "favorite" character XDXDXD

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Nice go back and read the Novels again. Fire dew is World itself.


It's insignificant enough to not comprehend.

Wow.

Layer 2 > Layer 1. By inhabitants of Silver Bubbles the difference is on the level of Dimensionality. According to you bubble world and Silver Bubbles have same size with zero proof

1. Fire Dew isn't the World itself, it's akin to the World. Look up the definition of tantamount.

2. Insignificant yes, ". . .enough to not comprehend" is headcanon.

3. Bubble Worlds and Silver Bubbles are the same size. The story doesn't say otherwise. Silver Bubbles are just Bubble Worlds that evolved and can perceive outside of the Bubble. Aside from that, their size is the same. Show scans where it states that Silver Bubbles are larger than Bubble Worlds.

 

[Delta333]

Tbf I don't care if this is not accepted, but by no means it comes from Geo's nonsensical reasons at all.

 

[Dog3352]

The building block of arguments is based on this

Just one of them, have you read the OP?
When a bubble world evolves into a silver bubble, it is said to "exercise the limit" (which depending on the context can count as qualifying superiority). After a Bubble World evolves into Silver Bubble, he can perceive the existence outside the world (something that a Bubble World being is not able to do, not even the gods). Even the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy the Bubble World. Bubble Worlds are not able to reach Layer 1 without evolving into a Silver Bubble. Layer 0 is not even part of the Silver Sea Power Hierarchy it is so insignificant.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

1. Fire Dew isn't the World itself, it's akin to the World. Look up the definition of tantamount.

equivalent in seriousness to; virtually the same as.

Wow

2. Insignificant yes, ". . .enough to not comprehend" is headcanon.

Layer 20+ inhabitants can calculate the fire dew of Layer 1 but for them Calculating layer 0 Bubble World fire dew is insignificant enough to non existent. Which is not headcanon Unlike you who don't even send a single scans I have already posted multiple scans

3. Bubble Worlds and Silver Bubbles are the same size. The story doesn't say otherwise. Silver Bubbles are just Bubble Worlds that evolved and can perceive outside of the Bubble. Aside from that, their size is the same. Show scans where it states that Silver Bubbles are larger than Bubble Worlds.

Do I need to spoon feed you on this ?

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[intransitive, transitive] to develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complicated form; to develop something in this way

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Just one of them, have you read the OP?
When a bubble world evolves into a silver bubble, it is said to "exercise the limit" (which depending on the context can count as qualifying superiority). After a Bubble World evolves into Silver Bubble, he can perceive the existence outside the world (something that a Bubble World being is not able to do, not even the gods). Even the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy the Bubble World. Bubble Worlds are not able to reach Layer 1 without evolving into a Silver Bubble. Layer 0 is not even part of the Silver Sea Power Hierarchy it is so insignificant.

The "mere presence" of a Silver Bubble being isn't going to destroy the World.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The "mere presence" of a Silver Bubble being isn't going to destroy the World.

It doesn't need to. There is no rule for all higher dimensional character mere existence should be able to destroy lower dimensional plane. Have you even read the FAQ page

 

[Dog3352]

The "mere presence" of a Silver Bubble being isn't going to destroy the World.

Don't blame me, it was automatically that sentence, I meant "the presence of a being Silver Bubble being can destroy the Bubble World."
And I don't think that's VERY important.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Wow

Layer 20+ inhabitants can calculate the fire dew of Layer 1 but for them Calculating layer 0 Bubble World fire dew is insignificant enough to non existent. Which is not headcanon Unlike you who don't even send a single scans I have already posted multiple scans

Do I need to spoon feed you on this ?

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1. Being equivalent to or virtually the same as something isn't the same thing as actually being that something.

2. Again, insignificant yes, can't comprehend no.

3. Bubble Worlds evolving into Silver Bubbles has nothing to do with their size increasing.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Don't blame me, it was automatically that sentence, I meant "the presence of a being Silver Bubble being can destroy the Bubble World."
And I don't think that's VERY important.

Still wrong. A Silver Bubble being (Luna Voldigoad) entered a Bubble World (Elenesia/Pre-Militia World) and didn't destroy it or come close to doing so.

 

[Robo432343]

Still wrong. A Silver Bubble being (Luna Voldigoad) entered a Bubble World (Elenesia/Pre-Militia World) and didn't destroy it or come close to doing so.

bro a lot of ppl dont believe u coz u dont show them scans

 

[Dog3352]

Still wrong. A Silver Bubble being (Luna Voldigoad) entered a Bubble World (Elenesia/Pre-Militia World) and didn't destroy it or come close to doing so.

The Militia World is very different from a normal Bubble World. And how could that be wrong if it's mentioned in the story itself?

 

[Fixxed]

The scan doesn't say so. It simply states that there is an insignificant and incalculable difference between the realities of silver bubbles and the realities of bubble worlds. But this does not mean "seeing it a non-existence". So, it does not mean qualitative superiority.

Hah??? bruh go read again