6D Silver Bubbles

[MaxLevel_King]

The Militia World is very different from a normal Bubble World. And how could that be wrong if it's mentioned in the story itself?

The story doesn't mention that. Show me what you think the story says about that and I'll debunk it.

 

[RaveeCPN]

The story doesn't mention that.

CHAPTER 504

"The reason we do not return the fire dew to the Bubble World is because there are no silver lamps, so it is impossible to see inside from the outside. The Bubble World is not stable, and any attempt to enter it from the outside may result in a disturbance of the order, thus closing off the possibility of evolution."

"You are saying that just by entering it, it will be destroyed?"

"That may be the case. Above all, the bubbling world will have to let the returned fire dew out again. That would be like drawing water into a bucket with a hole in it. It is inefficient and is said to cause the loss of fire dew."

Oh, I screwed up while writing this lol. Anyway, please ignore the layout.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

The Militia World is very different from a normal Bubble World. And how could that be wrong if it's mentioned in the story itself?

I was referring to the Elenesia World, the World that existed before the Militia World, hence the "Pre-Militia World".

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

1. Being equivalent to or virtually the same as something isn't the same thing as actually being that something.

It is the same thing one can't exists without another

2. Again, insignificant yes, can't comprehend no.

No scans = Lie

3. Bubble Worlds evolving into Silver Bubbles has nothing to do with their size increasing.

Explaination clearly indicates Bubble World are like just bubbles and their existence is not even comparable to Silver Bubbles. Also Silver Bubbles evolves in their reality. No one arguing based on size Your argument has no weights you are strawmaning at this point.

Qualitative Superiority over power difference between Reality is enough.

She wrote 'Bubble World' on it.
"The movement of fire dew occurs mainly in the bubble world. This is what we call the countless dark bubbles floating in the Silver Sea. It is said that all worlds begin with bubbles. Even the deeper worlds located in the depths of this ocean, was one bubble in the beginning."

Like a bubble popping, the Bubble World disappears.
"The bubbles of that ocean would disappear if left alone like this, hence the name bubbles."
Lots of bubbles appear again, building a bubble world.
"However, not all bubbles disappear. Those bubble worlds that are lucky enough to survive have certain changes going on within them."

"The Chief God will choose a king of the world from among the conformists. This will create a Sovereign, and the bubble world will evolve into a silver bubble."

Still wrong. A Silver Bubble being (Luna Voldigoad) entered a Bubble World (Elenesia/Pre-Militia World) and didn't destroy it or come close to doing so.

The Militia World is very different from a normal Bubble World. And how could that be wrong if it's mentioned in the story itself?

FAQ

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

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Are higher-dimensional beings infinitely stronger than lower-dimensional equivalents?​

a higher-dimensional entity can be both stronger or weaker than a lower-dimensional one, and thus, they are usually quantified based on their own feats, instead of dimensionality alone. If a character is merely stated to be higher-dimensional and simultaneously has no other feats to derive anything noteworthy from, then they are put at Unknown, and the same applies to lower dimensions as well.

 

[Fixxed]

The story doesn't mention that. Show me what you think the story says about that and I'll debunk it.

Hah??

Spoiler: CHP 502

"Are there any other ways to evolve?"

"No. All small worlds follow this evolutionary process. Be guided by the order of the Silver Water Holy Sea."

Ottroull immediately answered my question.

The Militia world seems to be an exception.

 

[Dog3352]

I was referring to the Elenesia World, the World that existed before the Militia World, hence the "Pre-Militia World".

Wasn't the World of Elenesia superior to the Militia World...?

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Oh, I screwed up while writing this lol. Anyway, please ignore the layout of this.

". . .may result in a disturbance of the order. . ."

. . .

"That may be the case"

The statements suggest that it could happen, not that it's a guaranteed fact.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Wasn't the World of Elenesia superior to the Militia World...?

It was lol. It is an exceptional world.

 

[Georredannea15]

Layer 20+ inhabitants can calculate the fire dew of Layer 1 but for them Calculating layer 0 Bubble World fire dew is insignificant enough to non existent. Which is not headcanon Unlike you who don't even send a single scans I have already posted multiple scans

It's not enough to be stronger or look unimportant. Instead of presenting scans and statements that are still evidence, you proceed with arguments that are assumptions...


"Trust me bro .It's truth" XDXDXD

 

[Robo432343]

It's not enough to be stronger or look unimportant. Instead of presenting scans and statements that are still evidence, you proceed with arguments that are assumptions...


"Trust me bro .It's truth" XDXDXD

he posted more scans than you did

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Hah??

Spoiler: CHP 502

"Are there any other ways to evolve?"

"No. All small worlds follow this evolutionary process. Be guided by the order of the Silver Water Holy Sea."

Ottroull immediately answered my question.

The Militia world seems to be an exception.

That doesn't state that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World, which is what I'm arguing against.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It's not enough to be stronger or look unimportant. Instead of presenting scans and statements that are still evidence, you proceed with arguments that are assumptions...


"Trust me bro .It's truth" XDXDXD

Already posted the scans at this point you are so desperate just ignoring it.

 

[Dog3352]

". . .may result in a disturbance of the order. . ."

. . .

"That may be the case"

The statements suggest that it could happen, not that it's a guaranteed fact.

That doesn't state that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World, which is what I'm arguing against.

"The reason we do not return the fire dew to the Bubble World is because there are no silver lamps, so it is impossible to see inside from the outside. The Bubble World is not stable, and any attempt to enter it from the outside may result in a disturbance of the order, thus closing off the possibility of evolution."

"You are saying that just by entering it, it will be destroyed?"

"That may be the case. Above all, the bubbling world will have to let the returned fire dew out again. That would be like drawing water into a bucket with a hole in it. It is inefficient and is said to cause the loss of fire dew."

Just the mere presence of one upsets the order/reality of the world (that's for sure), and can result in destruction in the world. The fact that the mere existence of a being Silver Bubble disturbs the order/reality of the world can already be used as an argument, and there is still a chance that the world will be destroyed, this is not a debunk.

 

[Fixxed]

That doesn't state that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World, which is what I'm arguing against.

No no, i give you proof that you ask for, about militia world that different from other bubble world. Why you change your argument to destroy mere presence??

 

[Georredannea15]

he posted more scans than you did

So where?

Most of the arguments written above are conjecture. Only the phrases "trivial" and "exteed the upper limit of order with physical force" are not conjectures.

He still going with the "trust me" policy.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That doesn't state that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World, which is what I'm arguing against.

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Are higher-dimensional beings infinitely stronger than lower-dimensional equivalents?​

a higher-dimensional entity can be both stronger or weaker than a lower-dimensional one, and thus, they are usually quantified based on their own feats, instead of dimensionality alone. If a character is merely stated to be higher-dimensional and simultaneously has no other feats to derive anything noteworthy from, then they are put at Unknown, and the same applies to lower dimensions as well.

 

[Robo432343]

He still going with the "trust me" policy.

you: R>F and qualitative superiority is the same trust me bro

 

[MaxLevel_King]

No no, i give you proof that you ask for, about militia world that different from other bubble world. Why you change your argument to destroy mere presence??

I didn't ask for that, what are you on about? I was arguing the same point I've been arguing.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

he posted more scans than you did

Ignore @Georredannea15 . His arguments are based on argument from incredibility. Beside he hasn't even posted a single line from tiering system page to back himself up.

 

[Sacchan]

@EldemadeDityjon Did you get some of the staff to put their input in the thread? they just need to reply with “agree” or “disagree” and this whole thing will be done without reaching page 4 or 5

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@EldemadeDityjon Did you get some of the staff to put their input in the thread? they just need to reply with “agree” or “disagree” and this whole thing will be done without reaching page 4 or 5

I asked Lord Griffith and Elizha. Let me ask Ant to tag few.

 

[Dog3352]

We are almost 3 full pages long discussing the exact same thing, I still think I should stop with the comments and wait for the team.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Just the mere presence of one upsets the order/reality of the world (that's for sure), and can result in destruction in the world. The fact that the mere existence of a being Silver Bubble disturbs the order/reality of the world can already be used as an argument, and there is still a chance that the world will be destroyed, this is not a debunk.

Again, the statement says that it may happen. Not that it's a guarantee.

 

[Georredannea15]

you: R>F and qualitative superiority is the same trust me bro

Different statements with the same meaning. This is already explained in the Tiering System FAQ... (different examples with the same meaning)

You are free for going to Tiering System FAQ.

 

[Fixxed]

I didn't ask for that, what are you on about? I was arguing the same point I've been arguing.

Hah???

@Dog3352 say

The Militia World is very different from a normal Bubble World. And how could that be wrong if it's mentioned in the story itself?

and you ask for proof

The story doesn't mention that. Show me what you think the story says about that and I'll debunk it.

Are you now want play a "forget" card?

 

[Georredannea15]

Again, the statement says that it may happen. Not that it's a guarantee.

A possibility, a conjecture

 

[Robo432343]

Different statements with the same meaning. This is already explained in the Tiering System FAQ... (different examples with the same meaning)

You are free for going to Tiering System FAQ.

you're just trying to twist what the FAQ is saying to suit your argument

 

[Georredannea15]

Hah???

@Dog3352 say

and you ask for proof


Are you now want play a "forget" card?

Please ,wait for authorized persons.

 

[Dog3352]

Again, the statement says that it may happen. Not that it's a guarantee.

I don't remember turning down the word "may". I don't think you know, but something that can disturb the order is already something absurd. Orders are what maintain the World (order/reality/concepts/laws, etc.), if the mere existence of a being is capable of disturbing the whole order to the point of destroying the world, it is already an absurd feat.

 

[Georredannea15]

you're just trying to twist what the FAQ is saying to suit your argument

I'm saying what the Layering System FAQ says. I can't add any extra assumptions.

 

[Fixxed]

Please ,wait for authorized persons.

No no, and why?? He ask for proof, and then i give him proof, and then he say he didnt ask for that??? What a well playing

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'm saying what the Layering System FAQ says. I can't add any extra assumptions.

Send the link & Quotes from FAQ page

 

[Dog3352]

and you ask for proof

Don't worry, it's already been sent.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

I don't remember turning down the word "may". I don't think you know, but something that can disturb the order is already something absurd. Orders are what maintain the World (order/reality/concepts/laws, etc.), if the mere existence of a being is capable of disturbing the whole order to the point of destroying the world, it is already an absurd feat.

You're arguing as if the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being disturbs the Order of a Bubble World when the statement suggests that it's only a possibility, not a fact.

 

[Georredannea15]

No no, and why?? He ask for proof, and then i give him proof, and then he say he didnt ask for that??? What a well playing

You don't give evidence. You are making an assumption.

Anyway... Wait for the authorized persons.

 

[Fixxed]

You don't give evidence. You are making an assumption.

Anyway... Wait for the authorized persons.

Bruh assumption, you from above cannot prove your argument about yggdrasil's statement of nonexistence, and you say i make a assumption

You cant read this and tell me the where i make a assumption??

Hah??

Spoiler: CHP 502

"Are there any other ways to evolve?"

"No. All small worlds follow this evolutionary process. Be guided by the order of the Silver Water Holy Sea."

Ottroull immediately answered my question.

The Militia world seems to be an exception.

 

[MaxLevel_King]

Hah???

@Dog3352 say

and you ask for proof


Are you now want play a "forget" card?

I wasn't asking him about the Militia World, I was asking him which statement he thought proved that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World.

 

[Fixxed]

You don't give evidence. You are making an assumption.

Anyway... Wait for the authorized persons.

And for you that say the silver bubble view bubble as nonexistence is just a assumption, read this and shut up

The gap between bubble and silver bubble is nonexistance and existance

Spoiler: Chapter 505

Because it was a bubble world, it would have been impossible to prove the existance of Militia world

 

[Fixxed]

I wasn't asking him about the Militia World, I was asking him which statement he thought proved that the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being can destroy a Bubble World.

What???
@Dog3352 literally say about militia world differen from other bubble world. You say story didnt mention that, so i prove you that story mention that. What card now you wanna play??

Hah???

@Dog3352 say

and you ask for proof


Are you now want play a "forget" card?

 

[Dog3352]

You're arguing as if the mere presence of a Silver Bubble being disturbs the Order of a Bubble World when the statement suggests that it's only a possibility, not a fact.

This is just being used as a supporting statement, so don't get too hung up on this argument.