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Now.
Someone get on that shit.
Someone get on that shit.
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Does this look like the face of mercy to you? Because it is
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Anyways, to answer your question:
Because it doesnt say anything about the Scarlet King himself impregnated the girls, only that they were used as effigies to bear the offspring of the Scarlet Brides themselves. The 11-D children of two 11-D entities. Plus there's the fact that 682 is a universal constant that has existed ever since the universe it inhabits was created. But if it's been around since the universe was created, how can the effigy give birth to it so recently? Its because 682 is the offspring of the Fourth Bride, not the effigy, and has existed since at the very least the beginning of the universe if not long before then. The effigy gave birth to a 3-D physical manifestation of the 11-D entity that is SCP-682.
Using 999 as an example doesnt really work considering 999 has the potential to mind hax the Scarlet King himself into joyful submission, so of course his mind hax would work on a creature that is much weaker than the Scarlet King (Albeit only for a short amount of time, 682 kinda absorbed 999's power and used it to kill a bunch of people...).
Because it doesnt say anything about the Scarlet King himself impregnated the girls, only that they were used as effigies to bear the offspring of the Scarlet Brides themselves. The 11-D children of two 11-D entities. Plus there's the fact that 682 is a universal constant that has existed ever since the universe it inhabits was created. But if it's been around since the universe was created, how can the effigy give birth to it so recently? Its because 682 is the offspring of the Fourth Bride, not the effigy, and has existed since at the very least the beginning of the universe if not long before then. The effigy gave birth to a 3-D physical manifestation of the 11-D entity that is SCP-682.
Using 999 as an example doesnt really work considering 999 has the potential to mind hax the Scarlet King himself into joyful submission, so of course his mind hax would work on a creature that is much weaker than the Scarlet King (Albeit only for a short amount of time, 682 kinda absorbed 999's power and used it to kill a bunch of people...).
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I read the report. It didn't actually do any damage to 682, just happiness haxed him. And the moment it stopped, 682 had absorbed its happiness powers and used them to incapacitate gaurds and scientists by causing them laughing fits then murdering them.
So in terms of actually physical damage it can do, probably not much. It's psiology gives it Low-high regen seeminly though as 682 stepped on it and crushed it and it just reformed
So in terms of actually physical damage it can do, probably not much. It's psiology gives it Low-high regen seeminly though as 682 stepped on it and crushed it and it just reformed
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More importantly, does this mean that 682 now has 11D mindhax?
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Because it doesnt say anything about the Scarlet King himself impregnated the girls, only that they were used as effigies to bear the offspring of the Scarlet Brides themselves.
It says the exact opposite of that.
"A thaumaturgical cult calling itself the Children of the Scarlet King enacted a ritual wherein seven young girls became effigies for each of the Scarlet King's seven brides, allowing them to bear his horrid offspring."
Becoming effigies means they acted in place of the brides to bear the offspring of the Scarlet King, hence it saying "his horrid offspring" and not "their horrid offspring".
Plus there's the fact that 682 is a universal constant that has existed ever since the universe it inhabits was created. But if it's been around since the universe was created, how can the effigy give birth to it so recently?
If there is a 682 in each universe, and they can be linked, it's not hard to see 682 existing before being born in one universe. This does not mean he has some true self that is 11-D.
Using 999 as an example doesnt really work considering 999 has the potential to mind hax the Scarlet King himself into joyful submission, so of course his mind hax would work on a creature that is much weaker than the Scarlet King
999 is an example because it is the child of a human effigy and the Foundation's attempts to produce it. It is not the lower manifestation of some 11-D being.
There is, of course, also the option that 682 could be the direct child of the Fourth Scarlet Bride, and that would still not make the entity itself 11-D. I can quite easily get 1-A Cthulhu (and many, many things tangentially related to Cthulhu) for those reasons, with added WoG stuff, to boot. If 682 only ever shows to be a 3-D entity, and is not stated to be the manifestation of a higher being, we cannot assume it is eight degrees of infinity higher. Maybe if 682 was portrayed as some sort of avatar for something unfathomably greater, but to my knowledge, it isn't. 682 is 682, and we cannot scale it to infinitely superior beings on the basis of it being related.
It says the exact opposite of that.
"A thaumaturgical cult calling itself the Children of the Scarlet King enacted a ritual wherein seven young girls became effigies for each of the Scarlet King's seven brides, allowing them to bear his horrid offspring."
Becoming effigies means they acted in place of the brides to bear the offspring of the Scarlet King, hence it saying "his horrid offspring" and not "their horrid offspring".
Plus there's the fact that 682 is a universal constant that has existed ever since the universe it inhabits was created. But if it's been around since the universe was created, how can the effigy give birth to it so recently?
If there is a 682 in each universe, and they can be linked, it's not hard to see 682 existing before being born in one universe. This does not mean he has some true self that is 11-D.
Using 999 as an example doesnt really work considering 999 has the potential to mind hax the Scarlet King himself into joyful submission, so of course his mind hax would work on a creature that is much weaker than the Scarlet King
999 is an example because it is the child of a human effigy and the Foundation's attempts to produce it. It is not the lower manifestation of some 11-D being.
There is, of course, also the option that 682 could be the direct child of the Fourth Scarlet Bride, and that would still not make the entity itself 11-D. I can quite easily get 1-A Cthulhu (and many, many things tangentially related to Cthulhu) for those reasons, with added WoG stuff, to boot. If 682 only ever shows to be a 3-D entity, and is not stated to be the manifestation of a higher being, we cannot assume it is eight degrees of infinity higher. Maybe if 682 was portrayed as some sort of avatar for something unfathomably greater, but to my knowledge, it isn't. 682 is 682, and we cannot scale it to infinitely superior beings on the basis of it being related.
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Said article states 999 is nowhere near full power, yet. By the point it can mindhax 11-D beings, it would be able to permanently reform 682.Kaltias said:
"I'm sure you're skeptical. Are we insane? How could our sweet little tickle monster ever hope to dethrone a Lovecraftian Horror of unparalleled might? Well, SCP-999 is less than a decade old. It's still just a child, and nowhere near its full strength."
"One day 999 could very well be strong enough to permanently reform its family members just as it reforms human beings."
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Wait, SCP-999 is 682's family member?
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Ok, i certainly was not aware of that
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Would SCP-999 have two keys?
SCP-999 as of right now, and his "potential" key? Like, 11-D mindhax?
SCP-999 as of right now, and his "potential" key? Like, 11-D mindhax?
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It wouldn't really need a key. It's mental abilities are entirely that, and not combat related nor related to its state of existence. It's not AP or anything, but hax that are believed to eventually become strong enough to work on a higher-dimensional scale.EliminatorVenom said:
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That 11-D hax though...
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I'm with Azzy on this if the main reasoning for SCP-682 being 11-D is "he is the offspring of an 11-D being".
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What about Dr. Gears' statements about 682:
"SCP-682 is not, in any way, a biological entity as we understand biology.
Not at all.
No.
It is a…thing, which has somehow formed a "shell" or "growth" that we have numbered SCP-682. What it is, i have no idea, but i doubt it normally has a form we would call "corporeal". Anything dealing with normal biological processes does not count with 682. Hurting it is like shaving the hair off a human: annoying, but not deadly.
Time, space, and states of matter must function VERY differently where ever this thing is from, and it is functioning on those rules, not ours. It's like playing checkers against someone playing chess. it's the same board, but the rules and the pieces are totally different."
"SCP-682 is not, in any way, a biological entity as we understand biology.
Not at all.
No.
It is a…thing, which has somehow formed a "shell" or "growth" that we have numbered SCP-682. What it is, i have no idea, but i doubt it normally has a form we would call "corporeal". Anything dealing with normal biological processes does not count with 682. Hurting it is like shaving the hair off a human: annoying, but not deadly.
Time, space, and states of matter must function VERY differently where ever this thing is from, and it is functioning on those rules, not ours. It's like playing checkers against someone playing chess. it's the same board, but the rules and the pieces are totally different."
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"It's the same board, but the rules and the pieces are totally different."
This still states 682 is on the same relative plane to other things in the traditional universe, but follows different rules due to its origin. Notice how 682 being destroyed is still "annoying", because it must regenerate its physical shell. It's not like it can just automatically recreate itself somewhere else, because it is a distinct presence. It just states it is a non-corporeal entity originating from an unfamiliar space-time which has basically grown a physical shell, which is why all harm to said shell is irrelevant.
Funny enough, all of that is pretty much the exact description of this guy and these things.
This still states 682 is on the same relative plane to other things in the traditional universe, but follows different rules due to its origin. Notice how 682 being destroyed is still "annoying", because it must regenerate its physical shell. It's not like it can just automatically recreate itself somewhere else, because it is a distinct presence. It just states it is a non-corporeal entity originating from an unfamiliar space-time which has basically grown a physical shell, which is why all harm to said shell is irrelevant.
Funny enough, all of that is pretty much the exact description of this guy and these things.
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Hmm...I see...
If thats the case then could we at least add a separate key for the 11-D Leviathans that are confirmed to exist?
If thats the case then could we at least add a separate key for the 11-D Leviathans that are confirmed to exist?
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They should probably have their own page, like the Scarlet King and co. do, but yeah definitely.
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I mean it'll basically just be a copy of 682's profile with High Complex Multiversal stats slapped on it, and seeing as theyre literally the same being, the only difference being 682 is a 3-D version whereas Leviathan is 11-D...
Also i still got some bit feats for 682 to talk about
And dammit, i just remembered i need to update 239's profile...
Also i still got some bit feats for 682 to talk about
And dammit, i just remembered i need to update 239's profile...
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Only Leviathans of the 4th bride, technically. The ones of the other six are supposed to be different, but how much so is hard to say.
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So to all this, what changes is 682's profile going to go trough?
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Eeyup. 999 is technically a child of the 7th bride, who gave birth to a race of heroes. The other five bride's offspring are actually described in Dust and Blood, but only the 4th bride's children have powers like 682.
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QuagsireTheLegend said:
He's getting a second key for the 11-D Leviathan of the Fourth Bride
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Okay, so ive been meaning to bring this up. 682 resisted 2719, which rewrites concepts.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2719
Can this be added to his profile?
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2719
Can this be added to his profile?
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Resistance to conceptual manipulation, mm? Cool
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I mean he's already got the ability to make people forget entire concepts, and with this thread he's getting 11-D mind hax
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Not 11-D I would say, seeing as 999 is nowhere close to full power yet. And making people forget concepts =/= erasing concepts from reality.
Also, can you explain SCP-2719's concept manipulation a bit more? "outside" and "inside" is a bit vague and a weird way to say concept manip.
Also, can you explain SCP-2719's concept manipulation a bit more? "outside" and "inside" is a bit vague and a weird way to say concept manip.
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999 still has the potential to incapacitate the 11-D Scarlet King with his mind hax, and yeah i never said he erased them from reality, only that he made people forget entire concepts, like the concept of Russia
2719 is a variable abstract-metaphysical construct pointer, a concept that allows you to define a concept. In this case, it defines something as "inside" or as being "inside what has been defined as inside", then manipulates them on a conceptual level.
2719 is a variable abstract-metaphysical construct pointer, a concept that allows you to define a concept. In this case, it defines something as "inside" or as being "inside what has been defined as inside", then manipulates them on a conceptual level.
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Uhhh... what does that even do though? What does it mean to be "inside" or "inside what has been defined as inside"WeeklyBattles said:
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So we know 999 and 682 are offspring of the Seven Brides, which makes 682 one of the seven Leviathans, which are the other 5?
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Its not said
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Seven orders. Not just seven Leviathans. There are supposedly an army of them.QuagsireTheLegend said:
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