6-B and Relativistic KonoSuba Upgrade (Yes, this is real)

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

6-B Statement:

Megumin: "If talking won't do to you-" The voice other than Iris was heard from behind me. With glowing red eyes, she pointed with the staff, taking a big step. Megumin: "My explosion magic and Iris' sword will blast your country to kingdom co-" Levi: "W-w-what!?" Iris: "Megumin, please don't say that! I will not do anything like that at all!"
	~ KonoSuba vol. 10​

For the record, Maxwell's Hax reached Zelberg, which is a country so it's also not that outlier-ish. God and high tiers should be 6-B scaling from vol 10 Megumin and Iris, though Destroyer might be just a support feat and not to be scaled. I'm iffy about it.

Relativistic Scaling:

Simple. Fenrir (Konosuba) is currently Relativistic. This should be scaled to 7-As like Aqua and Wiz as they are God tiers of the verse.

Feel the 6-B light novel degenerates.

 

[Jobbo]

Megumin actually has a Tier 6 feat in Dust's spinoff so this wouldn't be an outlier. I'll calc it soon.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

More contexts are appreciated. Like, did it happen instantly or overtime?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

I read vol 1 of Dust's spin-off. What vol is it?

 

[Jobbo]

The third volume.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

More contexts are appreciated. Like, did it happen instantly or overtime?

Over time. Though many KonoSuba counties are considering "big", even Elroad.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I don't think it would be country level if it happened overtime.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

>6-B Konosuba

>6-B

>6-B

WOOOOOOOOKE!!!

 

[Chartate101]

Also, could you please mention who's talkin in each line?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

I don't think it would be country level if it happened overtime.

I'm quite iffy about Destroyer ruining country anyway. It would make them 6-B for Vol 4 or so, it's absurd. 6-B isn't that outlier-ish tho. Almost all tier 7 feats are comedic effect or extremely casual, to the point that they do it everyday to relax like Low 7-B calc. Also Low 7-Bs are fodders.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Unless there is a timeframe, 6-B is a no. There is no mention of the size of said country as well.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Statement for Megumin destroying Elroad has vague idea, actually. Aqua said this.

"Elroad? Did you just said Elroad? Is our destination the gigantic casino country, Elroad?"

Belzerg also has similar name, ÕñºÕø¢, which translates to "big country".

 

[Gemmysaur]

The 6-B feat is hilariously lacking context. I mean, a guy with City Block level AP can spam aoe, and with enough time, he may destroy the country too.

The Relativistic speed on Fenrir's profile needs a fix too. Dodging magic is not relativistic unless it has properties that make it so.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

It should be way faster than intermediate magic. Intermediate magic like Light of Reflection, manipulates light to become invisible, that is why advanced magic like Explosion is at least SoL, even FTL. Many techniques like Crimson Laser and Vanir Laser also are considered light beams. Earlier upgrades already suggested that.

While Destroyer feat might not be legit, the statement do. Because one, both Explosion and Sacred Explode aren't AoE. Two, Explosion can't be spammed, it just huge bulk of damage that can be used once.

 

[Gemmysaur]

That does not make it so all magic of its level is lightspeed. The only lightspeed there is the spells that use natural light, unless proven otherwise.

Also, blasting something to kingdom come can be hyperbole or exaggeration. That, and explosion is aoe, unless it is vastly depicted differently between anime and light novel.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Advanced magic is the highest form of magic. Yunyun considered Explosion and other advanced magic as the highest form of magic (þ®ÂµÑÁÚ¡öµ│ò). With special cases like Megumin, all advanced magic users have abilities to use intermediate magic. Also Light of Saber, Crimson Laser and Vanir Laser. Crimson Laser reflected to Wiz' ice.

Yeah, it's AoE. Sacred Explode isn't tho. It only illuminated the mountain yet only dead is the dragon. I'm pretty sure both Iris and Levi panicked once they heard the words of Megumin, you can see it with dialogues. Levi saw demon king's magic and Iris is in front line against the army of demon king so they know what magic do and how powerful is it. Also Iris never said she couldn't, she didn't because she needed money

 

[Jobbo]

All magic of that level has to light speed or beyond because Arnes doesn't bother to use light magic when she was trying to hit Megumin before Megumin's explosion hit her, indicating there's no significant difference in speed between advanced magic spells.

There's also the fact that God tiers have no problems reacting to light magic and this is backed up by the fact that they scale to Aqua and Eris who have reactions thousands of times faster than lightning-timers. There would be absolutely no point using anything but light magic if the other magic were slower.

 

[Jobbo]

Based on my current version of the calc, Megumin's explosion should be 430 Gigatons or High 6-C.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Where is it?

 

[Jobbo]

Although I'm not really sure about going from 7-A to High 6-C in one volume.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Tier 6 in general is not outlier. You read the statement and the hax can go up to country size. Honestly, even at somewhere like vol 7, I'm okay with High 6-C Megumin. Where's Vol 3 Dust spin-off is in within the timeline anyway. Still in the Destroyer incident? If Iris showed up and saw her corrupted, it's maybe in vol 11. Which is consistent with statement right here.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Although I'm not really sure about going from 7-A to High 6-C in one volume.

Shonen mangas have done WAAAY worse. That's acceptable.

 

[Jobbo]

It's in my sandbox. Vol 3 of the Dust spinoff is around Vol 10.

User:Jobbo/Sandbox

 

[Jobbo]

Put it up on a blog.

 

[Jobbo]

Although this might not scale to everyone, wasn't Megumin saying she surpassed Wiz?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

More like boasting. Also Wiz wasn't that serious when she casted Explosion against Destroyer, we only see her like that against Duke and possibly Hans.

 

[The_Causality]

The 6-B feat is hilariously lacking context. I mean, a guy with City Block level AP can spam aoe, and with enough time, he may destroy the country too.
The Relativistic speed on Fenrir's profile needs a fix too. Dodging magic is not relativistic unless it has properties that make it so.

Agree with Gemmy & Homu about the 6-B Rant

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

They disagreed about the Destroyer feat. They didn't replied about the statement tho. I'll remove that.

 

[Elizhaa]

How large is the country though?

 

[Elizhaa]

Although I'm not really sure about going from 7-A to High 6-C in one volume.

Shonen mangas have done WAAAY worse. That's acceptable.

This statement looks like a Red Herring Fallacy. It is not an argument.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I was just showing an example lol. From what he said, there was no reason to assume that it was an outlier.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

How large is the country though?

It only says that it is "big". Low-ball to Low 6-B is also okay I think. With current multiplier we have, God tiers are at baseline Low 6-B because of High 6-C calc.