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As far as I remember, Sienna has only demonstrated the ability to devastate the planet through prolonged usage of her powers. She is empowered by the electronmagnetic field in the first place, and it certainly doesn't contain remotely enough energy to split the planet in half in a single shot.

I would appreciate if you stop bothering me by arguing about this subject, and rather follow my instructions above by asking other knowledgeable members for help after first fixing your very poorly structured post. If you prove impossible to discuss properly with in a constructive manner, I might have to close this thread due to being extremely overworked already.
 
What do you mean?
 
Going by Sienna's actual feats of destabilising the weather of the planet through extensive use of her powers, splitting the planet in half must be interpreted as hyperbole for dramatic effect.

We cannot accept any unfounded statement as definitive proof for our profiles in this wiki, and cannot make an exception in this case. My apologies, but your suggestion has been firmly rejected, and will stay that way even if you continue to bother me about it.

I would suggest that you follow my earlier instructions of trying to get Storm's planetary feat recalculated by properly explaining its scope to the calc group, and by asking more staff members to comment here.

If you do not, I will be forced to close this thread, as it is wasting my time in an unproductive manner, and I have many other important tasks to constantly try to manage in this wiki.
 
That's incorrect she did not create a storm. She manipulated gamma rays to block gamma rays from destroying the planet. The clouds and etc that happened is a byproducted. That's not the feat at all.
 
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What Storm did was not a planetary storm at all. That's incorrect it was literally stated on panel she made an "elemental cosmic tuberlance" to protect the planet from a fully powered gamma ray.
 
Then ask for a new calculation. I already gave you instructions for this.
 
I don't know the link. Also it's very incorrect to keep her profile like that with false information. She did not create a planetary storm and the whole feat was overlooked.
 
Alright


but does Storm get her goddess key as she was stated to be a bigger god than Adversary and easily overpowered him with the some prayers of Wakanda?
 
That seems to be an outlier and temporary power-up.

I would prefer to wait and see. Or maybe we could scale her from X-Ma?
 
She still has the power in Black Panther and Shuri. Actually the story is connected to when Adversary first met Storm. As you know Storm come from long line of powerful magic users and sorcerer supremes. Osthur favored them and gave them power. Well back in the 80's the story is connected to BP now. Adversary feared her spiritual powers back then. Keep in mind with just untapped spiritual powers she held enterinity eternity in her mind and was a candidate for sorcerer supreme. She also holds the high priestess on Earth along with Scarlet Witch and Agatha. She was finally able to tap into that power in BP. That's why when Adversary was finally released he knocked her under rocks to induce her phobia. He knew she was the main threat even BP said it.
 
Well, we need considerably more input from highly knowledgeable and reliable members before such a massive upgrade.
 
Wanda should be an outlier. She invoked Cthton chaos magic for M-day never did anything on that level again

Sounds like someone knows what they are talking about.
 
Celestial Judge said:
Wanda should be an outlier. She invoked Cthton chaos magic for M-day never did anything on that level again
Sounds like someone knows what they are talking about.
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I think he gave her a magic potential when she was born. Either way she has never performed a feat on that level again. If she did I would like to see it.
 
Quick question how the heck is scarlet witch standard Solar system level for fighting Thor and She Hulk. But Storm has scale to her own feats. Literally all the characters I see scale to one another except Storm in marvel.

Fought she hulk and harmed her. Shulk 1 Shulk 2 Something Scarlet got credit for

Without her goddess powers she was the only one harm a space lubber, who was strong enough to crawl through and create black holes. and She broke through his shields. Shuri had to use concentrated nonconductive chemical compounds to harm it. 1

Lubber creating black holes

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Here is storm breaking the lubber shields easily and harming in

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When the fungi activate her goddess powers she casually oneshotted the space lubber.

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Storm has matched and defeated a bloodlusted Cyclops

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I have way more too.
 
Look. The problem is that the scale of Storm's own feats are just not very high in terms of energy output. Marvel is extremely inconsistent in terms of matchups between characters, and as such extremely hard to make sense of.

I am just extremely overworked and not comfortable with making these types of decisions without input from other knowledgeable members.

Here are some that you can ask to comment here via their message walls:

Sandman31, KLOL506, Zensum, C2 of Omego, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Qawsedf234, PrinceOfTheMorning, SuperAPM, Zark2099.
 
Storm does. Can use the full power of stars and planets, fixed the Earth's magnetic field several times, she is also in full control of it, summonned a planet size solar flare with enough energy to burn off the atmosphere, took a full powered blast with her winds from sienna, who was destroying the planet and the magnetic field, manipulating gamma rays to the protect the planet from gamma rays that was gonna end earth and so on. She has been stated to be more powerful than Cyclops and Rogue by multiple people. That's why they take her out first. Channel and manipulated magic that was killing someone as power as Magik. With her own feats She has shown to easily match and defeated Cyclops several times. She's been stated to be stronger than him. Yet he has a higher tier than her.
 
Yes, I agree that Cyclops should likely be rated far lower. Our scaling for Marvel characters is recurrently very unreliable.

Anyway, again, we need calculations for her feats, and more knowledgeable community input. It is against my standard praxis to just accept these types of uncertain changes on my own.
 
We still need more input from staff and knowledgeable members. I asked Kepekley23 to help us out, but he has not shown up yet.
 
Confirmed by marvel Storm storm is an god of Wakanda. As shown they have immeasurable power, powered faith and etc

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Confirmed here as long as people faith in her she able to absorb that in transform it into power (also shows here she's now a wakanda goddess)

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It is stated she can use faith from people to boost her power to truly godlike levels as she did when she overpowered and defeated Adversary

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All that was stated there is that it was a temporary power-up. We should omly scale from her regular power-levels.
 
1. That is not all that was said though

"So beloved she is by the people that their adoration, hope, worship amplify her powers; magnifying her strength until --- as a new wakandan goddess on Earth-- Storm routs Adversary"

2. It literally says her power is "able to absorb and tranform worrship into power" that is the whole power source of her god mode.

3. I think you're talking about this part

"with the force of the people's faith in her temporarily amplifying her power to truly godlike levels"

First, you do know She is not always in her goddess mode right? Second, power is divine and faith. She absorbs faith and turn it into power. She was stated to be a massive threat, a bigger god, and strong enough to take on Adversary before she fueled more worship into her power. Where she completely overpowered him.

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Not to mention way before the fight she stopped senient storm created by Adversary by using faith

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This is what they mean by temporarily

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Here is shows that Storm godhead can be brought forth. Which means Storm supresses that power and use her mutant power.

There was more context behind of what you only read. Storm in her godmode can tranform and absorb faith of the people of Wakanda to be more powerful than Adversary and I gave two examples above of how she is more powerful than him.
 
Unless it is shown in the comics that she appears in that she can regularly throw around Low 2-C level cosmic-entity beating power, we cannot upgrade her. Sorry.
 
So we have

-Confirmed by Marvel she can transform and absorb faith into truly godlike power and beating Adversary

-Stated to be a bigger god and a massive threat to Adversary in Black Panther

-Stated to be powerful enough to take Adversary

- transformed worrship even more to where she overpowered Adversary

- With one blast she affected and harmed a full powered backed up by every personality Legion (also Legion was being amplified by Nate Grey, who created a timeline and he stated himself a different plane of existence 1 2 ) confirmed by the X-writer it was her god powers

^^^^ Nate Gray also had the Life Seed and stated that's how he was increasing his power 1

- Overpowered and stopped Adversary powerful senient storms by channeling faith into her before their fight

So we have the comics telling us she harmed an amped Legion with lifeseed Nate Grey power fused with a blast, stronger than Adversary, and completely stopped his storms.

We have marvel itself saying Storm is more powerful than Adversary, a new Wakandan God, and and transform faith into god level power. We even got the same thing from the X-writers themselves

Even Nate Grey called her a god 1

btw Adversary which much stronger than low 2-C. He took full control over a nexus. He has defeated Roma multiple times, who pocket dimension is a multiverse, tanked and overpowered Mastermind, who had the power to split the multiverse, rivals her father in power, and so much more.


It's funny how you so easily upgraded Kitty profile with the black vortex... Who really had a temporarily power and barely have feats compared to God mode Storm.... but when it comes to Storm, who has consistent statements, powers, and confirmed by Marvel. It's a problem

Just gonna leave this here


I'm just gonna leave this

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shadowcat

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Emma_Frost

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Spider-Man_(Marvel_Comics)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gambit

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Namor_(Marvel_Comics)

These characters barely have feats with the keys they are given. They don't have feats to say they are comparable to Rachel. Shadowcat and Spider-man is a gimme. Gambit is such an outlier. There are more profiles on here too. But Storm feats and statements are a problem with even confirmation by Marvel.
 
We should get more inputs, have it highlighted or something

Storm has numerous statements, confirmation from marvel, overpowered Adversary, and harmed Nate+Legion with a blast.
 
The only two feats that she has is a brief power-up that enabled her to overpower the Adversary, who was likely not displayed at anywhere near full power in this storyline, and damaging X-Man, who is a glass cannon. That is it. We need more confirmation of these new abilities of hers.
 
Antvasima said:
The only two feats that she has is a brief power-up that enabled her to overpower the Adversary, who was likely not displayed at anywhere near full power in this storyline, and damaging X-Man, who is a glass cannon. That is it. We need more confirmation of these new abilities of hers.
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You just don't get it. It's not a brief power up. I already showed you what marvel meant by temporarily. Her godhead is supress most of the times. Literaly stated Storm god powers transform and absorb faith to amplify her power in her Hadari Yao form to god like levels.

Adversary story was reconnected to the 80's where took control over a nexus and Roma. Not only that he defeated all the wakandan god in that story which consisted of Elder gods and Bast (who overpowered Mephisto)

X-man was fused with lifeseed Nate. Nate alone with one with the plane of existence. So I find it hard to believe that that would be a glass cannon.

What do you mean confirmation? We have marvel, statements, showings on panel. and X-writers tellng us and confirming how powerful she is. but the characters above barely have FEATS, nor consistent STATEMENTS like Storm Hadari Yao form does.
 
You may or may not be correct, but given how extremely inconsistent Marvel is, I am very uncomfortable with clearing massive upgrades on my own, and prefer more input from knowledgeable members.
 
It's not her mutant powers though. It's her Hadari Yao mode powers. She's needs a key for her goddess power.
 
Again, you may be correct, but we need more input, so I would suggest that you ask the members that I suggested previously to comment here.
 
Eh, not my area of expertise but Hykuu and POTM might be able to help in this regard.
 
So basically Storm in black panther unlocked her spirtual powers passed on by her ancestors.

She is now a wakandan god Hadari Yao, the goddes that perserve all thing nature.

With her divine power she transforms and absorb faith amplifying her powers to truly god like levels while in her god form

She was able to stop Adversary unnatural senient storms and defeated him. Adversary is the demon of highest order and has several multiversal and higher feats (such as taking control of the Starlight Citadel, that encompasses all of existence, defeating Roma, who has several multiversal and higher feats, blocked the powers of Darkchylde Magik, and the X-men were trapped in Roma dimension which is an omniverse. Rogue using Adversary easily created a portal.

She was able to harm a full powered backed by all his personas Legion fused with life seed Nate Grey with a blast.

I think she needs a key for her Hadari Yao form
 
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