4-B Kaguya (this is useless and I'm wasting my time 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥)

[KaydeeX]

I agree with this btw

 

[HelloThere1089]

RAAAAAH I fixed the math, all that's needed now is 2 more staff member approvals

1 more should be enough I think. Right?

 

[DavidTPPM]

1 more should be enough I think. Right?

As long as Damage disagrees we need at least 2 more

 

[DavidTPPM]

Bump

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Did Damage post his debunk?

 

[Damage3245]

Did Damage post his debunk?

Not a debunk exactly; I just didn't think there was a solid basis for Kaguya's ETSO to have the same "chakra density" as the Truth-Seeking Orbs created by Naruto & Obito. Obito showed the ability to greatly increase the size of his TSO's with the constructs he created without any suggestion that he was making them massively more powerful as a result. Kaguya expanding the size of her ETSO doesn't necessarily imply that she's putting in proportional amounts of chakra to volume every second, and that she'd do this for 15 years straight consistently. It seems to me that the method in the OP depends on some generous assumptions.

 

[HelloThere1089]

As long as Damage disagrees we need at least 2 more

I don't think there's a rule like that. The minimum is 2 votes and it should be in the majority to get approved. There's no rule that states there has to be a 2 point lead. Unless I'm mistaken.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I don't think there's a rule like that. The minimum is 2 votes and it should be in the majority to get approved. There's no rule that states there has to be a 2 point lead. Unless I'm mistaken.

2 is the bare minimum for non controversial changes. A change with staff disapproval imo doesn't fall under that category.

 

[HelloThere1089]

2 is the bare minimum for non controversial changes. A change with staff disapproval imo doesn't fall under that category.

Well I don't think 1 staff disagreement makes this controversial and I've seen other CRTs pass through without a 2 point difference, but as you wish.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Not a debunk exactly; I just didn't think there was a solid basis for Kaguya's ETSO to have the same "chakra density" as the Truth-Seeking Orbs created by Naruto & Obito. Obito showed the ability to greatly increase the size of his TSO's with the constructs he created without any suggestion that he was making them massively more powerful as a result. Kaguya expanding the size of her ETSO doesn't necessarily imply that she's putting in proportional amounts of chakra to volume every second, and that she'd do this for 15 years straight consistently. It seems to me that the method in the OP depends on some generous assumptions.

I mean the nonuboku sword is actually massively stronger than his other balls

 

[RanaProGamer]

I mean the nonuboku sword is actually massively stronger than his other balls

Oh yeah, Obito’s TSB went from 200 Teratons which were battling KCM Sage Mode Naruto and Senjutsu Susano’o to 183 Petatons TSB with the Nunoboku which has surface wiping statements, the ETSB being on a different level isn’t far fetched

 

[Saftirix]

I think there is a problem with the calc. We have already seen inside of a ball and it was empty. Most likely explanation is that energy is stored in the surface layer. But if that is the case then surface area should be used instead of the volume.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I think there is a problem with the calc. We have already seen inside of a ball and it was empty. Most likely explanation is that energy is stored in the surface layer. But if that is the case then surface area should be used instead of the volume.

When did we see the inside?

 

[HelloThere1089]

When did we see the inside?

In CFYOW.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I mean the nonuboku sword is actually massively stronger than his other balls

The bigger issue is that it's not an assumption that Kaguya doesn't make her balls bigger by stretching them.
It's an assumption to say she does. The entire argument is just making a claim and trying to shift the burden of proof to me.

Imagine I tried to use Damages interpretation that Kaguya stretches out the TSO to destroy the dimension to calculate the KE of it. I would get hit with "prove Kaguya moves the TSO and doesn't just expand it like the name implies".

The argument is the same as if we saw someone destroy a planet and said "well you can't prove the planets wasn't made out of cotton candy so you can't say destroying it is planet level"

 

[DavidTPPM]

Like I already said before. The ability is called EXPANSIVE Truth Seeking orb. It's stated to be identical to the TSO behind Naruto (which are not stretched out), just bigger. Its stated that it's "expanding mass is filled to the brim". It's stated it contains the power to turn the dimension into nothing.
All of these statements directly imply if not outright prove the balls density stays the same.

Meanwhile there's literally no implication that Kaguya directly changes the shape of the ball and either moves it around or just stretches it out to achieve the dimensions destruction. That is a completely baseless assumption that doesn't require counter evidence to prove wrong simply because there's no evidence implying it's true to begin with

 

[DavidTPPM]

In CFYOW.

Ah yes my favorite novel.
Bleach Sasuke Hiden: Can't Fu€k Your Own Wife

 

[Saftirix]

When did we see the inside?

Chapter 669

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Chapter 669

That was just Madara changing the shape of his TSOs into a spherical barrier to protect himself. That's not the TSO in its natural form.