2D Triangle vs 3D Square (8-0-0) GRACE

[King_Dom470]

Yes I know that a 3D square is technically a cube but his name isn't spongebob cubepants
Rules:
Speed Equal
Battle takes place in Bikini Bottom
Both are in their first key
SBA for everything else

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[TheOrangeGuy09]

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Why red and not yellow
Also W quote

 

[King_Dom470]

Why red and not yellow
Also W quote

Thought it would have been obnoxious because Spongebob's is already yellow and it's kind of an annoying colour especially when up against a white background

 

[koopa3144]

So, I believe Bob one-shots at 183.56049 ZettaFOE while Bill is baseline. Bill can't really kill Bob Sponge cause of his immo's and the stat diff. Sponge is probably just gonna drive Bill insane with his layered Madness hax or have his SI annoy him into giving up.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

So, I believe Bob one-shots at 183.56049 ZettaFOE while Bill is baseline.

NEP

Bill can't really kill Bob Sponge cause of his immo's and the stat diff.

Powernull & Death hax & Sleep Inducement & Nightmare Inducement

Sponge is probably just gonna drive Bill insane with his layered Madness hax

Bill has NEP of his mind + prove layered thing + does he even start with Madness Manip

or have his SI annoy him into giving up.

No comments lmao

 

[Arkansalter2]

Following. Lets see where this goes.

 

[koopa3144]

Powernull & Death hax & Sleep Inducement & Nightmare Inducement

Bob reists sleep manip & Death hax (In fact if he was put to sleep he can null other peeps control of dreams so it would just help him) and Bill doesnt have power null in this key

Bill has NEP of his mind + prove layered thing + does he even start with Madness Manip

Madness Manipulation (Types 2 and 3; His laughter drove Plankton insane and can even destroy Plankton's advanced technology from said laugh as seen in "Shopping Lists". Squidward catches SpongeBob's laugh, maddened and unable to stop laughing despite how he is capable of functioning normally in Randomland which is a place that drives people crazy.

Madness Manip is basically passive with interacting with Bob.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bob reists sleep manip & Death hax (In fact if he was put to sleep he can null other peeps control of dreams so it would just help him)

Fine, didn’t notice, but Powernull will do the job

Bill doesnt have power null in this key

Oh really?

Void Manipulation and Power Nullification (Reduced the Mindscape into a white void, nullifying the abilities of Dipper, Mabel, and Soos)

Madness Manip is basically passive with interacting with Bob.

It’s not like that, he needs to laugh. Also, Madness Manip is a subset of Mind Manip, and Bill’s mind is NEP + Abstract Type 1

 

[koopa3144]

Fine, didn’t notice, but Powernull will do the job

Pretty sure he can only Powernull in the mindscape. And if their in the mindscape Bob can take complete control or just destroy the dream.

It’s not like that, he needs to laugh. Also, Madness Manip is a subset of Mind Manip, and Bill’s mind is NEP + Abstract Type 1

It's not just his laugh that can drive peeps mad, just prolonged contact with Bob can drive peeps mad.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Pretty sure he can only Powernull in the mindscape.

This key is called “Pre-Weirdmageddon”, and it was established that he can use all of his Mindscape abilities outside of it

It's not just his laugh that can drive peeps mad, just prolonged contact with Bob can drive peeps mad.

Bill will see that via his Precog & Cosmic Awareness and just powernull him

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Bob reists sleep manip & Death hax

have his SI annoy him into giving up.

could this lead to bill instead getting super angry and get 1 layer to all of his hax?

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Bob reists sleep manip & Death hax (In fact if he was put to sleep he can null other peeps control of dreams so it would just help him) and Bill doesnt have power null in this key


Madness Manip is basically passive with interacting with Bob.

doesn't bill already resist madness manip?

 

[koopa3144]

could this lead to bill instead getting super angry and get 1 layer to all of his hax?

Peeps with Anger issues like the Flying Ducthman just give up when exposed to Bob. He can also use his SI to turn Bill into good. I would list his SI feats but I'm lazy and the profile already has them.

doesn't bill already resist madness manip?

Bob's madness manip is layered;

Squidward catches SpongeBob's laugh, maddened and unable to stop laughing despite how he is capable of functioning normally in Randomland which is a place that drives people crazy.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

doesn't bill already resist madness manip?

It’s layered, but Spongebob would need to show to be able to interact with NEP Abstract Mind first in order to Madness hax him
Bill just wins via powernull tbh. There is also likely some other hax that will work but I’m too lazy to list them

 

[koopa3144]

It’s layered, but Spongebob would need to show to be able to interact with NEP Abstract Mind first in order to Madness hax him
Bill just wins via powernull tbh. There is also likely some other hax that will work but I’m too lazy to list them

Even if Bill powernulls Bob is still gonna have his immos so he won't be able to kill him. Sponge using SI on BIll to either get him to just give up and go away or getting him to become friends with him is more likely.

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Peeps with Anger issues like the Flying Ducthman just give up when exposed to Bob. He can also use his SI to turn Bill into good. I would list his SI feats but I'm lazy and the profile already has them.

i mean, is bob SI really that good to turn a 1 trillion year old overlord insane crazy maniac like bill (who already is suffering from therapy and doesn't seem to be changing) really get turned into a good guy, not to mention bill is stupidly smart and will know what bob is trying to do, which can still make bill get mad over it

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Even if Bill powernulls Bob is still gonna have his immos so he won't be able to kill him.

It would be considered an incap. Also, he can trick him into the deal (given that SpongeBob is generally dumb), use his Radiation Manipulation (what he did against Time Baby), restrain via LS, use Paralysis Inducement, Organic Manipulation, seal him or just Time Stop him

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

i mean, is bob SI really that good to turn a 1 trillion year old overlord insane crazy maniac like bill (who already is suffering from therapy and doesn't seem to be changing) really get turned into a good guy, not to mention bill is stupidly smart and will know what bob is trying to do, which can still make bill get mad over it

adding more to this, a lot of spongebob turning people into good people, those people arent even remotely close to how evil bill is nor smart as bill

 

[koopa3144]

i mean, is bob SI really that good to turn a 1 trillion year old overlord insane crazy maniac like bill (who already is suffering from therapy and doesn't seem to be changing) really get turned into a good guy, not to mention bill is stupidly smart and will know what bob is trying to do, which can still make bill get mad over it

Like I said I'm mad lazy and don't feel like copy and pasting what's on Bob's profile but his SI let him do things like instantly turning Bloodluted peeps and monsters on friendly as well as turning peeps good from exposure alone.

It would be considered an incap. Also, he can trick him into the deal (given that SpongeBob is generally dumb), use his Radiation Manipulation (what he did against Time Baby), restrain via LS, use Paralysis Inducement, Organic Manipulation, seal him or just Time Stop him

Bob can still harm Bill so its wouldn't be incon under SBA. I don't think Bill would want to strike a deal with Bob considering how annoying he would be to him and I think Bob while having his dumb moments, wouldn't be easily fooled into a deal. Bob resists Rad mainp, sealing and can Regen from Organic Manipulation.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bob can still harm Bill

No? Bill’s NEP and AE T1 render 99% of what SpongeBob can do useless

so its wouldn't be incon under SBA.

It would be a win for Bill

I don't think Bill would want to strike a deal with Bob considering how annoying he would be to him

He made a deal with dolphins despite how dumb they were, so not a problem

and I think Bob while having his dumb moments, wouldn't be easily fooled into a deal.

Supergenius vs Gifted-EG

Bob resists Rad mainp, sealing

Skipped that tbh

and can Regen from Organic Manipulation.

Fair. But Paralysis Inducement and higher LS are still a fair game

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Bloodluted peeps this link doesn't work for me :c

again, those people are not in the same mind level as bill neither had have been shown to be as evil neither, bill can also use Information Analysis to know bob fears and use that against him whit also considering bill is a supergenius, the only thing bob SI is gonna do to bill is annoying him to the point of anger since i highly doubt bill can get turned to good or him get tired of fighting bob

 

[koopa3144]

I'm busy so I'm probably gonna start taking longer to respond

No? Bill’s NEP and AE T1 render 99% of what SpongeBob can do useless

Bob can interact with Non existent things idk about type 1 AE tho.

It would be a win for Bill

For it to be an incap win for BIll he'd have to put Bob in a state where he can't harm him for over a day so just power nulling Bob wouldn't do the trick.

He made a deal with dolphins despite how dumb they were, so not a problem

Intelligence isn't the problem here. It's the fact the Bill's gonna hate Sponge due to how annoying he is and probably wont even try to make a deal with him.

Supergenius vs Gifted-EG

Bob isn't smart but that doesn't mean Bill can instantly trick him. Also Bill probably wont even try to make a deal with Bob for reasons I just stated.

Fair. But Paralysis Inducement and higher LS are still a fair game

Paralysis Inducement comes from him being in someones mind and torturing them which Bob resists and Bob has many ways to get out of Bills TK like teleporting out or making clones of himself.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bob can interact with Non existent things

Yeah but it doesn’t seem to apply to all of his hax

idk about type 1 AE tho.

He can’t do that so that’s gonna be a HUGE problem for him

For it to be an incap win for BIll he'd have to put Bob in a state where he can't harm him for over a day so just power nulling Bob wouldn't do the trick.

How will Bob harm him with all of his abilities powernulled?

Intelligence isn't the problem here. It's the fact the Bill's gonna hate Sponge due to how annoying he is and probably wont even try to make a deal with him.

Bob isn't smart but that doesn't mean Bill can instantly trick him. Also Bill probably wont even try to make a deal with Bob for reasons I just stated.

He is very patient about his deals, he convinced Dipper to make a deal despite him not wanting to, it’s very unlikely in my eyes that this would stop him

Paralysis Inducement comes from him being in someones mind and torturing them which Bob resists

Fair enough ig, but higher LS & Gravity Manip & TK still exist
Also Bill can do this:

Durability Negation (Should be the same as the followers of his cult, who can shatter skulls through shrieking a perfect E note in the 8th octave at 5,243 hertz[7])

Bob has many ways to get out of Bills TK like teleporting out or making clones of himself.

Good luck doing that while having all powers nullified

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bump

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bump

 

[King_Dom470]

Bump

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Voting Bill for my reasons above

 

[King_Dom470]

Voting Bill for my reasons above

Counted

 

[Jeeeeepil123]

Madness Manip is basically passive with interacting with Bob.

NEP3 & AE1

 

[Jeeeeepil123]

Bob can interact with Non existent things idk about type 1 AE tho.

NEP1 and NEP3 do share alot in common, but it's not the same, especially when we're talking about Bill's case here (because it's not just "oh, he's a nothing and a thing at the same time", no).

His NEP3 came from the "uncertainty" of his state of existence, leaving him as a confusing yes and no being.
As to this case, Spongebob's using Madness on Bill's probably getting him in the position of "Insane" and "Sane/Not Insane", he's half of them... So yeah, Spongebob's Madness Manip is working, but also no, because on the other half of Bill still got "Sane/Not Insane"

I might be reaching, but I'm gonna leave it to the rest of the supporters

 

[ShionAH]

Bill FRA

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Bill the triangle guy

BILL BILL BILL BILL FRA

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bill fra

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

bill fra + spongebob Social Influ aint working

 

[King_Dom470]

All Counted

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Bill FRA

 

[Jeeeeepil123]

Bill FRA