2B Base Mario & Luigi Removal (Remove Dream Team Tier)

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Like half the damage of that attack comes from the stars you collect and not the bros themselves :v

 

[JJSliderman]

Kind of semantics but alright.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

I think the point of argument here for the scaling is kind of ridiculous. Regardless there’s an entire discussion rule that exists against this. This removal/change should be fine to go through by now. If anybody has an issue with 2B scaling not being allowed at all then make a separate thread to have the discussion rule removed in the first place.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

We do have two staff agreements, so it might be fine to apply the changes once the grace period is up. And after that is when the suffering begins.

 

[JJSliderman]

If the problem is outlier then clearly, a thread needs to be made to justify 2-B for Base Mario

 

[AStrangeverse]

mind summarizing what's been largely agreed upon?

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

mind summarizing what's been largely agreed upon?

neither character should scale in their base forms

if Dreamy Luigi keys are kept, the keys need to be renamed and have their reasoning readjusted

Dreamy Bowser is not to be mentioned in any of the reasonsing for scaling

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Enough of the whataboutisms. But anyway, I still agree that 2-B for Mario is an outlier.

 

[JJSliderman]

Is it an outlier if we treat Culex as a cosmology wiper due to his statements saying he rules over all creation and consumes time and space.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Is it an outlier if we treat Culex as a cosmology wiper due to his statements saying he rules over all creation and consumes time and space.

Culex is featless and never does anything to support that, and also never consumes time-space on the scale of an entire timeline, all we know is that he can manipulate space-time, that's about it.

This has been debated and rejected on several occasions.

 

[JJSliderman]

He stated he can erase the past and future as well.

But alright ig if that isn’t a feat then it being an outlier sounds okay.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Me when I definitely have 4D power:

Spoiler

Anyways, this is getting a bit off topic. If there's valid tier 2 base scaling to be had, save it for another thread.

 

[AStrangeverse]

ain't really tryna scale their base stats to tier 2, just couldn't figure out what to do with the mess that is Dream Team

but aight

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

ain't really tryna scale their base stats to tier 2, just couldn't figure out what to do with the mess that is Dream Team

but aight

You seem to have not really expected this to be an issue so I'll assume you're genuine and this was just a big misunderstanding type of deal

Whenever you're going to introduce a major tier change / scaling change or anything of the sorts, you REALLY need to specify within the CRT what its for. Stuff like scaling changes to that degree typically get CRTs of their own tbh. Try to avoid putting them in Profile Revisions going forwards, typically people aren't eyeing for stat changes like that when peeking revisions like that.

 

[AStrangeverse]

I see that now

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

I can apply the edits soon, unless we need more staff input.

 

[ImmortalDread]

No, you got two staff members agreements, you can apply.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Cool.

Can someone unlock Mario and Luigi's profile so I can apply the edits?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Going to summon @Dereck03

 

[Dereck03]

Who told ya that you could summon my a$$?

Done.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Alright, edits have been applied. I've changed Mario's DT key to an "Empowered by Dreamy Luigi" key if that works. This can be closed and the profiles can be locked again, thanks for helping out.

 

[Dereck03]

Locked both profiles.

Requesting this to be locked.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Locked both profiles.

Requesting this to be locked.

Easy