(2-0-0) Ihwa (Hero Killer) VS Monster (Kamen Rider Amazon Alpha)

[Nicetoderp]

Two people who has bloodied their hands in order to wipe the stains of society of the face of the earth...one is in the middle of her journey while the other is nearing his end.

One has recently finished his hunt, hands stained with the blood of monsters in human-skin.

The Hero-Killer meanwhile only saw the end of the crime scenes.

Who shall emerge victorious from this jungle of sins?

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-Post-Training Ihwa and Last Judgement Alpha is used.

-Ihwa doesn't have her temporarily copied gifts while Alpha is fed full of protiens before.

-Speed is equalized.

-Battle took place in a random alleyway in Tokyo, 10 meters away from one another.

-Otherwise SBA.

The Face of Death: 2 (Azotnr, ARandomGuy)

Eat. Kill. All. :

 

[azontr]

I think it's a bit unfair to give Alpha his proteins while giving Ihwa none of her temporary gifts.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'll follow ig.

 

[Cimafranca133]

Attack Potency:

• Ihwa scales to 37.7 tons of TNT
• Amazon Alpha scales to 20.9 tons of TNT

1.8x advantage on Ihwa's favor

Speed: Equalized

Lifting Strength:

• Ihwa is Baseline Athletic Human which is 1177.2 Newtons
• Amazon Alpha scales to 200,646 Newtons

170.44x advantage on Amazon Alpha's Favor

 

[azontr]

Disregarding that, how skilled is Alpha?

 

[Nicetoderp]

I think it's a bit unfair to give Alpha his proteins while giving Ihwa none of her temporary gifts.

The thing is that Alpha is basically a melee fighter while Ihwa have plenty of range options herself, and she still have plenty of other stolen gifts to relied on.

Disregarding that, how skilled is Alpha?

Decent, can easily handle trained militaries in CQC while untransformed. Easily able to outmaneuver various Amazons with special abilities like acid, webs and whatever animal they are based on and come out on top. Has been hunting down Amazons for years and is still able to fight evenly against Amazon New Omega who has vastly gotten stronger despite him being blind.

Overall, nothing too out of the line

 

[azontr]

Sounds like Ihwa outskills then TBH, since she's done most if not all of that and has far more extensive combat training.

What does Alpha start with?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Sounds like Ihwa outskills then TBH, since she's done most if not all of that and has far more extensive combat training.

What does Alpha start with?

Melee like a cold maniac

 

[Nicetoderp]

What does Alpha start with?

Run in, melee.

I mean it's his only option.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

At least Alpha maniacal fighting style is consistent, if it's Omega then Ihwa can just fold him like smacking an oldman in the middle of NFC match

 

[azontr]

I mean if that's the case Ihwa kinda stomps tbh.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yeah, Amazons Riders skills aren't that stellar, barebone at best even if it's decent

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Rare case of Kamen Riders getting shit on?

 

[Nicetoderp]

Amazon attack, however, have Duraneg along with the fact that he's protein amp have Low-Mid regen.

He also have scaling chain that make him far stronger than 20 tons and has absurd stamina.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Amazon attack, however, have Duraneg along with the fact that he's protein amp have Low-Mid regen.

He also have scaling chain that make him far stronger than 20 tons and has absurd stamina.

Well at least it's make the fight not a stomp, but Ihwa still take this regardless

 

[azontr]

Amazon will only ever land attacks if Ihwa lets him, which she won't because she has Information Analysis which will inform her of the dura neg, causing her to act accordingly and dodge and counterattack conservatively.

The regen is a problem but I assume it's not a permanent thing?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Rare case of Kamen Riders getting shit on?

You guys are just looking at the top of iceberg lel

 

[Nicetoderp]

Amazon will only ever land attacks if Ihwa lets him, which she won't because she has Information Analysis which will inform her of the dura neg, causing her to act accordingly and dodge and counterattack conservatively.

The regen is a problem but I assume it's not a permanent thing?

The thing is that Alpha love getting attack. Using enemy attack that stuck into him he was able to counter with reckless abandoned, since he know that taking damage is not a real-factor along with the fact that Amazon himself have massive LS advantage over her too.

It's not a permanent thing but it allowed him to last for a long while.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

You know i'm thinking of a funny scenario where Alpha got overwhelmed by Ihwa and suddenly asking break so he an ate an foods to covering his protein for a moment lel

 

[azontr]

The thing is that Alpha love getting attack. Using enemy attack that stuck into him he was able to counter with reckless abandoned, since he know that taking damage is not a real-factor along with the fact that Amazon himself have massive LS advantage over her too.

Ihwa does the exact same thing with allowing the enemy to attack her in order to get counter-attacks in, so, she's very familiar with the strategy and will know how to counter it. Plus, again, with her information analysis, she'll know to play the fight conservatively due to Alpha's dura neg, in which case it will be exceedingly difficult for him to grapple her.

It's not a permanent thing but it allowed him to last for a long while.

Fairs.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Rare case of Kamen Riders getting shit on?

As a whole, I wouldn't say so. It's really mostly just the popularity of 01 and Saber.

When you look at the Kamen Rider matches in all, a majority of them are super long, insanely close matchups that riders barely squeak out of. The W/L/I record doesn't tell the whole story which is where I guess the KR stigma comes from. In tourneys even when the riders get to semis or finals. Most of the matches in those were amazing, counter after counter matches. I suggest people look at Blade vs Wrath, Ixa vs Gene, Kuuga vs Puck, Durendal vs Grimgor, Faiz vs Knight, Ixa vs Akaza, Wizard vs Holo. These are all matches where we had to dig for ANY way for us to win and were incredibly hard matches for us, even when it doesn't seem like it on the outside.

When we put these riders into the tournaments, you can always expect a giga banger match along the way.

 

[azontr]

 

[Doggo]

Yeah, Amazons Riders skills aren't that stellar, barebone at best even if it's decent

tbf Amazon only had a few episodes (which was unfortunate since I think it was great) unlike other rider shows the last 40+ episodes

 

[azontr]

Anywaaaaaaay

Voting Ihwa low-diff lol.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Ihwa does the exact same thing with allowing the enemy to attack her in order to get counter-attacks in, so, she's very familiar with the strategy and will know how to counter it. Plus, again, with her information analysis, she'll know to play the fight conservatively due to Alpha's dura neg, in which case it will be exceedingly difficult for him to grapple her

How conservative? She might be more skill than him but he has already been doing this for years. Even if she know about it that doesn't mean someone can counter it to 100% of the time, combined with Alpha's sheer tenacity and regen it will be very hard to put him down. For example, despite the fact that he has been poison by the chemical that completely destroyed other Amazon, he managed to survive it and goes hunting without break. Nevermind things like damage reduction, reactive evo and what else should allowed him to weather the storm and push through.

She's more skill than him, sure, but it's not like he is a complete buffoon when it come to combat either.

Also, his protein amp can be extending by feasting on things with protein, corpses, human (this one is ooc tho) and anything really he'll be top up.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Mommy-I mean cool-looking character FRA

 

[azontr]

How conservative? She might be more skill than him but he has already been doing this for years. Even if she know about it that doesn't mean someone can counter it to 100% of the time, combined with Alpha's sheer tenacity and regen it will be very hard to put him down. For example, despite the fact that he has been poison by the chemical that completely destroyed other Amazon, he managed to survive it and goes hunting without break. Nevermind things like damage reduction, reactive evo and what else should allowed him to weather the storm and push through.

Doing something for years doesn't mean much against someone who practices and can counter your specific combat style, though?

Ihwa's no slouch in stamina either so she can put him down over time once his regen wears off.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Doing something for years doesn't mean much against someone who practices and can counter your specific combat style, though?

Ihwa's no slouch in stamina either so she can put him down over time once his regen wears off.

The thing is, people who know his style (Amazon Omega), and has been fighting against him constantly due to their conflicting nature can't put him down until their final battle.

And again, a grab or a good cut is enough.

 

[azontr]

I mean, sounds like a skill issue on them. You'd need to prove those guys have comparable skill to Ihwa lel.

 

[azontr]

Anyway, I've already voted so I'm gonna go do other shit now

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

As a whole, I wouldn't say so. It's really mostly just the popularity of 01 and Saber.

Ehm, Kuuga and Ixa wanted to say something to you

When you look at the Kamen Rider matches in all, a majority of them are super long, insanely close matchups that riders barely squeak out of. The W/L/I record doesn't tell the whole story which is where I guess the KR stigma comes from. In tourneys even when the riders get to semis or finals. Most of the matches in those were amazing, counter after counter matches. I suggest people look at Blade vs Wrath, Ixa vs Gene, Kuuga vs Puck, Durendal vs Grimgor, Faiz vs Knight, Ixa vs Akaza, Wizard vs Holo. These are all matches where we had to dig for ANY way for us to win and were incredibly hard matches for us, even when it doesn't seem like it on the outside.

In other hand, those matches you mentioned are also one of the factors why Kamen Rider is feared with that stigma, those folks are insanely strong
Like one of it was against a warhammer chars

 

[IxaSaga2]

Ehm, Kuuga and Ixa wanted to say something to you

In other hand, those matches you mentioned are also one of the factors why Kamen Rider is feared with that stigma, those folks are insanely strong
Like one of it was against a warhammer chars

Dammit, my cover was blown.

Okay so a few things here. Alpha has fought and defeated these people completely blind.

And I don't think this match comes down to skill tbh. Amazon Alpha's Reactive Evol and damage reduction will ward off her attacks while his stamina will let him just last longer. Alpha is a character that has fought in acid rain that is designed to dissolve his species yet he fought hoards of Amazons while in the rain. The longer the fight goes the worse and worse it gets for Ihwa. 1.8x is hardly enough to beat down Alpha. It will get to a point where he won't get hurt at all. While Alpha just needs one hit with dura and she's a goner.

Remember that this was movie Alpha. This is post-blindness where he gained the ability to flawlessly fight and dodge hoards of Amazon when blind.

 

[azontr]

Alpha's Reactive Evol and damage reduction will ward off her attacks while he stamina will let him just last longer

Unlikely. Ihwa also has Accelerated Development to boost her strength and can simply use the Killer's Time to bombard Amazon with attacks before he can attack, since she can use her temporarily copied gifts within the Killer's Time.

Plus, if Ihwa is put into a situation where her life is on the line, she'll simply awaken her Gift even further and get even stronger in the process.

 

[Nicetoderp]

I mean, sounds like a skill issue on them. You'd need to prove those guys have comparable skill to Ihwa lel.

Other than what? The fact she's well trained? Both Omega and Alpha fought multiples people at once, including the like of C4 which are trained child soldiers Amazon made to hunt down other Amazons as well.

Omega have no combat experience whatsoever yet was able to keep up with trained professional with ease.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Unlikely. Ihwa also has Accelerated Development to boost her strength and can simply use the Killer's Time to bombard Amazon with attacks before he can attack, since she can use her temporarily copied gifts within the Killer's Time.

From her AoE, Amazon can easily evade out of the way due to his sheer mobilities.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Unlikely. Ihwa also has Accelerated Development to boost her strength and can simply use the Killer's Time to bombard Amazon with attacks before he can attack, since she can use her temporarily copied gifts within the Killer's Time.

Then Alpha will grow pass that:

Alpha is a character that has fought in acid rain that is designed to dissolve his species yet he fought hoards of Amazons while in the rain.

He also fought against Jellyfish Amazon who was able to repeatedly cut him but he endured and was able to kill her. Furthermore, he tanked a damn bullet that vaoprized sand and said **** it and walked off.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Also, Last Judgement Alpha scale MASSIVELY above 20 tons.

Base Alpha already tank 20 tons to the face, then he fought New Omega who was far stronger than him and win, and with Protiens he was able to defeat someone that can one-shot someone comparable to him as well.

 

[azontr]

Other than what? The fact she's well trained? Both Omega and Alpha fought multiples people at once, including the like of C4 which are trained child soldiers Amazon made to hunt down other Amazons as well.

Omega have no combat experience whatsoever yet was able to keep up with trained professional with ease.

Literally everyone Ihwa fights is a trained Hero with years of combat experience, each described as exceptional fighters even without the use of their Gifts, and she regularly fodderizes people on that level with no effort, so, not really impressive.

Then Alpha will grow pass that:

Then so will Ihwa. Alpha's growth isn't as good as you make it out to be from the scans on the profile, so you cannot just say "lol adapt" and call it a valid win condition.

He also fought against Jellyfish Amazon who was able to repeatedly cut him but he endured and was able to kill her. Furthermore, he tanked a damn bullet that dissolved sand and said **** it and walked off.

Ihwa has been repeatedly cut, beaten, had blades twisted inside her open wounds, and still fought and reacted to invisible attacks. So she's pretty much done the same thing.

The sand bullet thing means jack shit so dunno why you're bringing it up.

From her AoE, Amazon can easily evade out of the way due to his sheer mobilities.

Lmao no? She has tens of meters of AoE, and that's when she's not controlling her strength.

 

[azontr]

Also, Last Judgement Alpha scale MASSIVELY above 20 tons.

Base Alpha already tank 20 tons to the face, then he fought New Omega who was far stronger than him and win, and with Protiens he was able to defeat someone that can one-shot someone comparable to him as well.

Ihwa scales massively above her value as well. She did the feat while already exhausted and having JUST awakened Jade's Gift, with zero control over its power, and only continue to get stronger as time goes on.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Literally everyone Ihwa fights is a trained Hero with years of combat experience, each described as exceptional fighters even without the use of their Gifts, and she regularly fodderizes people on that level with no effort, so, not really impressive.

Soooooo....what's special about this?

Then so will Ihwa. Alpha's growth isn't as good as you make it out to be from the scans on the profile, so you cannot just say "lol adapt" and call it a valid win condition.

Ihwa has been repeatedly cut, beaten, had blades twisted inside her open wounds, and still fought and reacted to invisible attacks. So she's pretty much done the same thing.

The sand bullet thing means jack shit so dunno why you're bringing it up.

Stamina/Endurance Feats for adaptation. I posted multiple times where this abilty was in play and it countered abilities that were meant to destroy him. The feats in comparison that you put are nothing compared to what Alpha endured.

Lmao no? She has tens of meters of AoE, and that's when she's not controlling her strength.

Look above.