Just adding some powers and abilities that are missing to some characters but not all.
Kratos
Demigod:
Time and gravity manipulation: via the amulet of ouroboros can make its target
float in mid air, the time manipulation works on a
character that predates the concept of time
That's just Telekinesis, but the Amulet already has Time Manip and Age Manip I believe.
And predating the concept of time doesn't mean much for its potency unless they're shown to resist it TBF. The Sisters of Fate literally control all aspects of time and fate themselves yet they're not exactly immune to their own Amulet.
Island of Rhodes was retconned hard.
lava manipulation: via ifrit can summons a stand that
shoots lava plume.
Looks fine at a glance.
Conceptual absorption,power mimicry: via absorption his absorption based powers can affect on conceptual level, it's been shown that he absorbs ares'
war/hate embodiment turns him the new god of war and acquired all his powers,and same same thing he absorbed Thanatos' death existence, that he becomes the
death itself.
Kratos already has Power Mimicry and he's supposed to get Conceptual Absorption in the upcoming CRT.
As gow(ghost of sparda-gow3):
Blood absorption: via scourge of ernys the
dark void can drain the blood of its target.
Nah, that's just the Void damaging them when it comes into contact and rips out their life-force.
Illusion/perception manipulation:
cast an illusion that trick midas.
Kratos did nothing at all, this is just Midas hallucinating.
Resistance to matter/quantum destruction: see his
resurrection
That's PoH Kratos, not GoS Kratos.
Has everything that ares and thanatos power
He already has Ares's powers by default as per his character description. Thanatos, definitely a likely, but this would neg Kratos's Abstract Existence Type 1 to Type 2, since he only embodies Death, he still has a physical form he needs to survive with.
We'll handle this in the upcoming Tier 2 GOW revision CRT.
Ares:
Non-physical interaction: compared to other gods who can harm
abstracts like helios and souls.
I believe
@GilverTheProtoAngelo was going to make a case in the new CRT about the gods embodying the aspects they control, like Cronos and Zeus taking over Uranus's position as the embodiment of the skies and so on and so forth, so right now this just seems too incomplete to add. On top of this, they don't really affect those concepts so I am hard-pressed to say this'd be NPI TBF.
Hades should definitely have it tho, since he can **** around and find out with souls however he likes.
Hammerspace: he can store/summons all his equipment and gadgets when he needs.
Kratos already has it. GOW2 Novel Chapter 27.
Technopathy: can command his spider legs, which appears to be a mechanical object.
That'd fall under Multiple Limbs now. Good find tho.
Duplication: can summon doppelgangers that exist as an illusion, which can harm and kill kratos (in alt ending).
Seems fine.
That's just BFR.
He has them both already (Just the reality part hasn't been separated yet). He also has all of Demigod Kratos's abilities.
Eh, IDK about this, the first one is just Enhanced Senses (Which Ares has further support for in the novels which doesn't involve Kratos). The whole "Death Itself" thing kinda doesn't fit this since nobody knew whether GOW1 would even have a sequel at that time, the concept doesn't work until at least you reach Ghost of Sparta. At best he should just scale to Kratos's vision viewing (Where he saw countless future wars and his own mother crying out for him).
Non-corporeal & Abstract existence type 1:
his soul is the war and hate itself ( this tells that he embodies the war and hate itself. And this implies how he survives the complete erasure after he sent Kratos in the other realm(gow2 novel ch47) and
allows him to exist as a formless being.) For more info why this is abstract.
1&
2
NO.
This only applies to the Primordials and Fear Zeus (And Athena is already incorporeal in her "Higher Existence" form), the Abstract Nature blog and the CRT go into explicit detail about this. All those other beings that aren't Primordials or Fear Zeus require a physical form to live, which negs them to being AE Type 2. At best this is just support for AE Type 2 for the other gods, but again, requires more digging and it's why it was left for the inevitable Tier 2 CRT.
Immortality 3,4,8: upscales athena, compared to kratos,zeus and primordials who can revive multiple times thanks to the concept that they embodied.
Yes to Type 3, hard no for Type 4 or 8 except for Fear Zeus (Technically he wasn't even dead to begin with, he just played possum) and Hope Kratos. Athena only resurrected because of her selfless sacrifice. Kratos only resurrected because of Hope and was then cursed to live on forever due to his crimes against the Gods. None of the Gods killed by Kratos could resurrect. Nor did Ceto or Uranus resurrect despite being literally Type 1 AE beings, because they themselves are the concepts which then got taken over by the other gods (Cronos and Zeus for the Sky, Oceanus and Poseidon for the Sea, and finally, Gaia for the Earth itself).
Regeneration mid-godly: can regenerate after being completely erased from reality, that leaves just only an abstraction.
Kratos's soul wasn't destroyed nor is there any showing where Kratos even regenerates from having his entire body reduced to nothing. Low-Mid the best regen feat for majority of the gods for being able to straight up heal from disembowelment not involving the Blade of the Gods or the Blade of Olympus.
Life,magic,energy,conceptual,power absorption and nullification: via absorption, compared to kratos and zeus absorption. upscales the other
low level characters who can absorb and nullify the power of other characters. showed that he absorbs kratos aura before he is sent into the alt dimension.
We don't give abilities to other characters just because they fought each other, they have to demonstrate their own feats. But Ares did by stealing all of Kratos's magic and weapons so that should be the justification used.
Not really, notice how he straight up said "And the Sisters of Fate make it so".
As for Ares, he purposefully placed them in that temple to make it come true, he didn't just magically say the words and they went there by their own.
Has everything in gow1(and possible previous games) kratos' power.
Range:
Possibly Galactic: scales to his gravity manipulation/reality warping,
His gravity manipulation affects the nearest spiral galaxy, which rotates more faster than a normal galaxy. And The nearest galaxy that is affected by his manipulation can creates a flash of light that luminates the entire galaxy.
BFR at best, but still Galactic Range BFR. It's nothing compared to his actual roar tho.
Deimos:
Non-physical interaction & soul manipulation: compared to kratos.
No. We don't scale NPI and Soul Manip just by powerscaling like that. Kratos is just... built different.
Weapon mastery,martial arts mastery,acrobatics,psychometry,technique mimicry: Scales to kratos who can master all weapons that he obtained, showed that He mastered the arm of sparta without formal training. capable of copying all kratos Arm of sparta's moveset.
Incorrect, Deimos already had a bit of training as a kid because of course, Spartan tradition.
Explosion,energy manipulation and attack reflection: via the
arm of sparta.
Attack Reflection is fine, but Explosion Manip and Energy Manip is a no, this is just Kratos throwing his spear and shield really hard and fast.
Creation: can materialize the spear that he loses.
Works fine.
Life,magic,energy,conceptual,power absorption and nullification: via absorption, compared to kratos and zeus absorption. upscales the other
low level characters who can absorb and nullify the power of other characters.
No. Again, we don't give abilities to other people just by the basis of powerscaling alone.
Immortality 1,2,3 and 4: compare to gods and gow2 demigod kratos who can revive
No, none of the Gods can revive. They'd have Immortality Types 1, 2 and 3 via scaling to the other gods and having similar regen as them. Kratos was resurrected by Gaia for his wound. Zeus is just... Zeus.
Regeneration mid: compared to his father who can regenerate after
his skull gets split and open.
No. In the failed QTE for GOW2 where you fail to fool Zeus right before he hits you with the Blade, Zeus
cleaves Kratos's head and kills him instantly.
At best I can see Zeus get a "Possibly Mid" from this but unless it's shown to be severe brain damage, best to just stick with Low-Mid and use this as further justification.
No. Kratos was revived by Gaia. The novel goes into this even deeper, Hades even loses his shit when he learns that Zeus sending Kratos to the underworld had failed miserably, and he immediately accused Zeus of ******* around with the process.
No. This is just referring to the manipulation of the fates by the Sisters.
Thanatos will need a much needed overhaul much like the Primordials, but yes this is one of those things that will get added in the upcoming Tier 2 CRT. Best to wait until then.
Resurrection: scales to uranus.
Died during the war, then he resurrected after the war.
Here's the thing. Uranus never died, in the video you showed, he's only knocked back. Ceto is the one who truly died, Ourea only lost a limb which became the mountains. He lived to see his son Gyges. Even the
Greek Pantheon Blog addresses this. As well as the
original upgrade thread, the
one after that, and the
failed downgrade thread. If Uranus died he'd have no grounds to scale to his creation feat to begin with. That and if he died the Titans would not exist. Nyx and Thanatos also survived the war.
Regeneration low-godly likely mid-godly: compared to Uranus who can reformed after his body is destroyed completely.
Again. Uranus never died. He survived the war. Nyx and Erebus survived the War as well. Not every Primordial died. Even Chaos survived, she gave birth to Gaia.
It's really a side-effect of their physical blows. Only Morpheus is worthy of Reality Warping and potential Space-Time Manip, but Creation is already there in their powers and abilities lists.
Matter,elemental,mind,soul manipulation:
Scales to the primordials who can create/destroy and manipulate these powers.
Thanatos should only get Soul Manip. It's not like every Primordial has the same exact ability set. Each Primordial is different aside from having the baseline typical abilities.
Conceptual manipulation: as the primordial he created the concept of death and embodies it.
Yeah, this is fine, this was a long time coming. But again, Thanatos is gonna need an overhaul which will be covered in the upcoming Tier 2 CRT. Just gotta wait until then.
Immortality 3,4,6,8:
The primordial gods are conceptual in nature that reshape the entire Greek verse, and can reborn after death thanks to the concept they embodied.
Again, a lot of the Primordials didn't die. Uranus survived, Erebus and Nyx survived. So anything beyond Immortality Types 1, 2 and 3 for peeps that aren't Fear Zeus or Hope Kratos is a crapshoot.
The first only scales to Gaia as per the novel, and the second is retconned and unusable. The only usable alternate reality as per
WoG is the timeline where Kratos fails to save the Blade of the Gods from being shattered and gets killed in tandem with his past self getting shanked by Ares.
Has everything in scourge of erinys:
the power originates from him.
Looks fine, but again, they will all be covered in the upcoming CRT.
Resistance to
Conceptual,Time,physics and law manipulation:
The Primordial Gods predate the conceptual existence of time
These are fine.
But this shit got retconned to unusability by the comics and Ascension. Which nukes Law Manip out of the window.
