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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
This is a general DC Comics discussion thread for all things DC Comics, and none of its adaptations (please, for the love of God). If you have questions about scaling, profiles, justifications, promoting DC threads, etc, etc, this is the place. Oh, and btw, please avoid any comic politics...
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- Characters who create the concept of space must necessarily be 1-A (transcendant).
A character who creates the "concept of space" must necessarily be 1-A (transcendant) and, at least, low 1-A for the simple reason being such a character will always be above any n-dimensional character, i.e from 0/1-dimensional to infinite-dimensional. Regardless the number of dimensions, there won't be any obstacle for a character who created the "concept of space", as he is obviously above any "configuration" of space, that is to say, again, from 1-dimensional to infinite-dimensional.
As for the upcoming question on the reason why I limit "the concept of space" from 0/1-dimensional to infinite-dimensional or [1 ; +∞ [, it's not an arbitrary choice, but it's based on the fact that most fictional cosmologies with extra dimensions (more than four spacetime dimensions) all agree on the same numbers, extending from 5 dimensions up to infinity, in line with real life's definition about extra dimension and in line with the current tiering system on this point.
Extra-dimension:
In physics, extra dimensions are proposed additional space or time dimensions beyond the (3 + 1) typical of observed spacetime, such as the first attempts based on the Kaluza–Klein theory.
Extra dimensions - Wikipedia
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Characters who can affect, create and/or destroy the entirety of spaces whose size corresponds to one to two higher levels of infinity greater than a standard universal model (Low 2-C structures, in plain English.) In terms of "dimensional" scale, this can be equated to 5 and 6-dimensional real coordinate spaces (R ^ 5 to R ^ 6)
Tiering System
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Characters who can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures whose size is equivalent to a countably infinite number of qualitative sizes above a universal model, usually represented in fiction by endless hierarchies of layers of existence, each succeeding one completely trivializing the previous into insignificance, or more generally a space with countably infinite dimensions.
Tiering System
The following is a comprehensive overview of the hierarchical system which this wiki utilizes in order to properly categorize and index fictional characters, entities, and objects based on the scale of their feats, and the varying scopes which they can affect or create/destroy. However, it...
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So, it would be a fallacy to equate how the terms "space" is used in a context like when a character is shown to have created the concept of space with how "space" is used in the current tiering, as, like I've adressed above, most of fictional cosmologies only include the set of natural numbers when it comes to define the dimensionality of their verse, making low 1-A the baseline for characters who create the concept of space for the reason given in the first paragraph.
Low 1-A: Low Outerverse level
Characters who can affect objects with a number of dimensions greater than the set of natural numbers,
Tiering System
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- Why it's a self-contradiction for "transcendent" characters to still be treated as "dimensional" characters.
Since I don't want to misinterpret anyone's stance based only on a discussion I had on this matter in the linked thread above:
I would like to know in what sense the term "dimensional" is used in relation to "transcendent" characters. Are they "dimensional" in the same way as a 3, 4, 5 etc. character, in other words, with additional degrees of freedom/directions? If yes, that would only defeat the whole point of "transcendent" characters, but I will wait for more clarification on this matter.ALL CHARACTERS 1-A AND ABOVE ARE DIMENSIONAL.
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