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tiering system

  1. AnosVoldigoadDemonKing

    Von Neumann Universe & Grothendieck Universe scaling

    Hello everyone, I have a question about the Grothendieck Universe and the Von Neumann Universe. All I know is that the Von Neumann Universe theory uses sets, but I don't get it at all cause I'm kind of slow at understanding things, and that the Grothendieck Universe theory goes beyond the Von...
  2. JimedBro2020

    Other Tiers: Pseudo Tier 0

    Just something I'm doing for fun: What do y'all think of this part of a tiering system I found on this tiering system: Power Scaling Wiki? Listen, I didn't read nor completely understand this tiering system but from the VERY limited knowledge I could gather, it's like this: -High Transcendent...

  3. Would this also work for the Intelligence rating?

    I've seen some talk regarding giving characters who originally had "below average-average general intelligence, but genius in combat" be instead given the "Gifted" rating in response to the ongoing changes to the Intelligence section. With that said, I was was wondering if either of these two...
  4. Wikisource

    Which could be Low 1-C?

    There are infinite timelines in a dimension, and there are infinite dimension like that. All of them was contained by a realm. So infinite dimension could be Low 1-C or only the realm, where contains all of them?

  5. I changed the title bc there's no options to delete threads

    Actually it's a dumb question so forget that my post exist
  6. DontTalkDT

    Context is always important - Changing a bad formulation of the Tiering System

    So, there has been a recent proposal to upgrade a character to Low 1-A due to this scan: As you see, the character has a skill with a 3 word description saying it's the "surpass dimensions skill". And you would think that with 3 words of description, no shown effect and no further context it is...
  7. NucleerChaos1922

    About Hıgh 1-A+ | Can someone help me?

    If you have enough knowledge about this subject, I would prefer you to write accordingly. Otherwise it may cause confusion. Thank you. In order for an entity to reach the High 1-A+ level, is it sufficient for only modal realism to exist within the fictional story in which the entity takes...
  8. Richard5128pm

    Where does trivialism scale you to?

    Where would the verse scale to if it proved trivialism? Also, would statements like “In such places past combines with the future, truth with falsehood…” prove trivialism?
  9. Wikisource

    How to get Low 1-A in new tiering system?

    Besides direct ways, are there any indirect ways?
  10. Wankbreaker

    Tier 2 hotfix.

    Currently, this wiki treats the strength of tier 2's by the amount of "universes" or space-time continuums they can destroy or survive having exploded in their face. While it may seem sound or even obvious that a character that can exert "Infinite-multiversal" levels of power is stronger than a...

  11. About the Lodges (Twin Peaks) and their Tier with the new Tiering System

    Will the Lodges remain 1-A with the new Tiering? The only reasons why the Lodges are 1-A is that they stand on a deeper level than the Red Room which is Low 1-A (High 1-B+ with the new Tiering, as it's just atop a basic High 1-B structure), and that they are nonexistent in relation to the...
  12. NucleerChaos1922

    Questions About the Tier System

    Hello, I would be very happy if someone could answer these questions. 1. Hıgh 1-A+ to occur in any fictional universe, does that universe require a tier 0 entity to exist? 2. There are two types of methods required for High 1-A+, type 1 High 1-A and type 2 High 1-A, what are they? Are both...
  13. Wikisource

    Are these qualify for R/F?

    From here and here, could these R/F?
  14. Kev_Nino36U

    Tier High 1-A+ and how it works within a non-logical cosmology

    As you all know, at the apex of Tier High 1-A+ we find characters that embody the framework of every logically possible world, and, in a verse that follows classical logic, those characters are completely unsurpassable for anything that isn't Tier 0 by virtue of embodying everything, so every...
  15. Wikisource

    Higher reality than ultimate reality?

    If a verse has a ultimate reality, like Brahman in Hindulism and there are reality, where superior in quality (R/F e.g.) than ultimate reality (Brahman e.g.). If it a anti feat or not? Btw, did Brahman can get 1-A in new tiering system?
  16. Kev_Nino36U

    Question about Tier 0/High 1-A

    Hello, after reading the Tiering System's reasonings for Tier 0/High 1-A+, I had a question: As I understand it, Tier 0 characters are the very source of logic, which is what defines all the possibilities that can exist. And, there are two types of High 1-A+ characters, the first type are those...
  17. Kev_Nino36U

    Questions about Tier High 1-A+

    Hello, guys. I have a few questions about the both type of characters that make up the tier High 1-A+ Regarding High 1-A+ "type one" characters(the ones who can affect all possibilities but don't embody them): 1. Given that they can affect all possibilities, are they all equal in terms of raw...
  18. Ar1216789

    Why is scaling Buddhism in fiction not allowed on the wiki?

    I've always wondered this question, my character has literally transcended Nirvana and has a realm almost identical to the Formless Realms. (eg.. a realm free of limitation and is the highest point of existence, enlightened, etc.) If the wiki permitted Buddhism scaling my character would be 1-A...
  19. Peter1129

    High 3-A downscaling

    So yeah basically like the title suggest I want to ask about how downscaling with High 3-A works with given multipliers. Character A's Base form is at least 4-A as they scale above 4-A characters but they themselves don't have any feats outside of being massively stronger than 4-As. But their...
  20. JimedBro2020

    Hey guys, I found this doc on CSAP and says it "debunks the tiering system"

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I17kskzu2b7RMboQ0QXb1-QjogHJwpiGoj6-NcuooB0/edit?usp=sharing
  21. Fixxed

    Higher D by Transcending Infinite/all level of Power and Existential

    In tiering system we already have good definition about how qualitative superiority work, but how about quantitative superiority? Honestly you can use qualitative superiority statement/proof that still reachable for have quantitative superiority I think we have two different type of proof for...
  22. JimedBro2020

    Clarification

    I think y'all should add a note clarifying the ascendence into 1-A and above. Some like this?
    • JimedBro2020
    • Thread
    • 1-a high 1-a reality fiction transcendence tier 0 tier 1 tiering system
    • Replies: 0
    • Forum: Content Revision
  23. Requiem_Yoriichi

    High 1-A Hierarchies?

    Basically: If High 1-A hierarchies of "meta"-qualitative superiority can exist, how does each of the hierarchy's layer transcend the one below? If each layer is "meta"-qualitatively superior, then it would operate on a higher hierarchy, and so there would be no hierarchy in the beginning, no...

  24. Where does these characters scale with the new Tiering?

    BOB (Twin Peaks) The Weaver (World of Darkness) The Ultimate Gods The Leviathan (The Unwritten)
    • Onirouge
    • Thread
    • bob (twin peaks) the leviathan (the unwritten) the ultimate gods the weaver tiering system
    • Replies: 7
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  25. JimedBro2020

    An "Outer" question (kaboom ching- I'll see myself out)

    So anyways, as we know, nothing below can ever ascend to an outerversal state, at best they'd be low outerversal right? However, what if (and this is a dumb what if), there was a guy from [insert dimensional value], but his ability is that his natural POTENTIAL POWER and EVOLUTION is equal to...
  26. Requiem_Yoriichi

    Does Qualitative Superiority grant Immeasurable Speed?

    Self-explanatory enough thanks to my title, I am asking if being qualitatively superior (that is: 1-A and so forth) would automatically grant Immeasurable speed. My reasoning is that qualitatively superior beings, due to being superior to Low 1-A, which sort of encompasses all possible...
  27. Ar1216789

    What tier would this feat get

    Question, where would creating day and night by slashing the sky scale you to?
  28. Requiem_Yoriichi

    Tier 0 Entities: Why is there only one?

    So I have read the Omnipotence page a bit. It was fascinating and seems to pretty much make sense to me. Tier 0 beings being primal, immuntable and indivisible absolutely make sense. However, I've got a question: why did this wiki choose to grant 0 beings unicity? Why cannot there be multiple...
  29. Wankbreaker

    Tier 2 revision/question?

    I’ve lurked on the wiki for a while,but never actually engaged with it until now, so I may be mistaken. But while looking at the tiering system and looking at Tier 2…. I actually don’t get the distinction. All tiers of T2 currently occupy both infinite spatial, and temporal points. As a...
  30. Agnaa

    Data/Information Tiering Revision

    Referring to this section of the Tiering System page, and any parts of other pages to a similar effect I think this argument is partially valid, but mostly flawed. I'd hold it as valid for drawings, as those can typically be read as the literal drawings on the screen, without an actual world...
    • Agnaa
    • Thread
    • reality - fiction interaction tiering system
    • Replies: 14
    • Forum: Staff Discussion

  31. Tier 1-A/High 1-A question and possible problem

    Hello all, I have a question regarding tiers 1-A and High 1-A. In its definition, it is stated that 1-A is a hierarchy of levels above infinitely-dimensioned spaces, going into transcendence over material composition altogether and into something qualitatively superior. Such jumps in quality can...
  32. Megaraptor149

    Reality-Fiction 1-A Requirement

    Does this qualify for a 1-A through Reality-Fiction?? "If they come upon one who still has not seen it and they speak to him of fire, he does not know what they mean. So they, in turn, fall back upon telling him what fire is like. As they do so, they know from their own experience that what...
  33. LiewtiStar

    About Meta-Qualitative and Quantitative superiority

    So I was thinking, since there's differents types of transcendence that gives each one of them different Tiers and scales. Maybe we should create a different page for each one of them, or mix them all in different categories in the "Reality-Fiction Transcendence" page but we change the title to...
  34. UchihaLik

    New tier 0 is bad.

    So, VSBW staff, i have a big question for you, were you drunk when you wrote this new Tier 0? It is so wrong that I don’t even know how to express it. So, any Monad character is Tier 0 now...Even if it exists inside 1D verse... Even if it doesn't have any good feats, just Monad... And it is...
  35. demonwarrior2266

    Tier 11 Needs a Revamp

    I don't think tier 11 should stay the tier that it is, largely due to 11-B. There are literally only 6 characters being 11-B, and that is including this one which will be deleted. Like think about it. Authors have a reason to write a 11-A characters via living on paper or something of that...
  36. Realabod

    how does tier high 1-A + and tier 0 works

    let's say if a character destroyed some logical possibilities where would that scale him. would it be tier high 1-A+ or what? because it's a very vague term saying "all" not every. sooooo what about the new boundless. it's a character that can do every logical possibility. can create all/ is...
  37. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    Hi. Good to see you. So, it has finally happened. The new Tiering System is applied. Evil is defeated. We can all go home now. So, I'll be making this thread for a twofold purpose: 1. To keep track of the potential torrent of attempts at 1-A-through-0 upgrades resulting from the revisions...

  38. When will the Tiering System gonna change?

    When will it be updated?
  39. Tom4t0GG789

    Why is PSR J038+0432 the most durable body to destroy the entire Universe? And other things

    Excuse me but I have two questions that I would like answered. 1.- Why do we use PSR J0348+0432 as the most durable object in the universe? 2.- I understand the use of the Law of the inverse square to the explosion energy, but I do not understand the use of the constant "4". How do we reach that...
  40. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Hi all. New Pages So: (P.S. Second one is the biggest, leave it for last if needed.) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ultima_Reality/thing https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ultima_Reality/thingy https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ultima_Reality/i_h...
    • Ultima_Reality
    • Thread
    • beyond dimensional existence reality fiction tier 0 tiering system tiering system faq
    • Replies: 216
    • Forum: Staff Discussion
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