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I'm sure by the title you have deduced what my question will be but I've always wondered, and pardon if it's been asked before countless of times but:
Let's say three characters fight, let's call them A, B and C
A is fighting B and C together
B and C are either stated or portrayed narratively...
Hey
Got permission from @Mr. Bambu
So this was something I brought up in a QnA thread earlier this year, and I think it needs proper discussion.
Our Multipliers page says this:
Herein lies my grouse.
This section goes against how we currently scale AP in relation to DC. This specifically...
Here we go for part 4, addressing multipliers, minor resistances and abilities and possible light speed blasts. Credits to @Vzearr for helping out on the Spinjitzu part a few weeks ago
Agree: @ByArrow @DarkDragonMedeus @AigerTheKing @Ben_10_Stick_Nodes @MasqueTLDF @YmTheSuper...
Permission granted by @Mr. Bambu.
As the title says, I would like to address a misconception about UES and Multipliers.
The primary problem is that literally some people don't even understand what a UES is.
The definition on the page is as follows:
I don't know how to make them understand...
A few questions that have been bothering me, especially since this conversation.
•There are many examples in fiction where universes exist in void rather than being embedded in higher dimensional spaces. Why does tiering system assume that universes are embedded in higher dimensional spaces...
Why can't we use mutipliers on Low 2-C to 2-C characters? Like let's say A character scale to 5 Uni into 2-C gets a 10x power boost, why can't we get 50x ?
Hey, back again with another CRT, this time covering the Volume 5-15 Key of Issei's new profile sandbox. Again, we'll only be covering AP. I'll briefly explain the reasoning for the tiers in this post but for more detailed explanations, sources, and images, go here. (The only necessary part for...
So yeah basically like the title suggest I want to ask about how downscaling with High 3-A works with given multipliers.
Character A's Base form is at least 4-A as they scale above 4-A characters but they themselves don't have any feats outside of being massively stronger than 4-As. But their...
Basically there's gonna be a few changes to the multipliers and scaling in the Ultra Series since there's quite a few outdated and missed info.
Multipliers
Several vs Many
So in this thread I've basically brought up how the term 何倍 many times in Japanese is at least 3 and not 4. From the looks...
In the Piccolo Perfil says that when he fused with Nail he multiplied his power x5 according to the Spanish version.
But in the French version says that his power multiplied in x10
Personally, I think the French version is more reliable than the Spanish one.
What do you think?
So DR S2 part 2 got released and some profiles should get updates and new keys, as well a new Multiplier. Also have to mention the tiering for all characters (except Jay and Mr Pale) mentionned here should not be changed, rather just scale higher into their tier
1. Shatterspin Multiplier
Inside...
We don't consider a 2X multiplier for Low 2-C Characters to be 2-C since the distance between one universe and another is unquantifiable, and that's fine.
But this logic doesn't make sense for 2-C, since these characters would already have that distance accounted for in their power(as they...
So I was going through some threads and noticed how ssjg multiplier is concluded by basically going
SSJG > SSJ3 Vegeto = multiplier value
So I was wondering if this similar thinking process would be acceptable:
1. Character A attacks character B with a 48x multiplier. Character B easily...
Introduction
The purpose of this thread is to handle the part of Maou Gakuin which none of my fellow wankers seem to be interested in... the scaling. I plan to later revise the current profiles as well lay down the reasoning behind scaling of profiles yet to come.
Before jumping into the...
Okay, this is a simple thread to officially adopt whether we use kaioken hypothetical multipliers as linear as the normal ones or not
In this thread , apparently it was decided to not use kaioken multipliers that were not shown having a stated power level.
This makes no sense to me, as it...
Hey, so getting multipliers via scaling as opposed to using the stated ones is kind of dogshit, how about we change that and bring examples on how that could lead to some very big problems?
Oh and,
"SOB SOB, WHY IS EVERYTHING COLOR CODED?"
LISTEN HERE YOU LITTLE SH-
This revision has been...
Referring to this part of the page
Does the feats displayed have to be on the level of the Tier the multiplier gets the character to?
For example, Character A is 7-A via powerscaling but when fighting, his DC is usually between the 9-B/8-C range. He then gets 500x stronger.
Does he need to show...
This thread is to include some statistics difference between characters in dlaoik to upgrade froggy 2 and those who scale.
Basically for the upgrade;
Sun Rong's spiritual force amount is 2019 and Froggy 2's even in his sealed form is in 5 digits so basically at least 10K, he suppresses it to 5K...
Remake of these two threads...
Summary
After the recent CRT for High 4-C Super Mario characters with Power Star keys was accepted, I decided to create another thread discussing the number of Power Stars from a few games. For this CRT, I'll be using multipliers to explain why I believe the cast...
Continuation of this thread, which will focus to revision the Stats, Scaling and Multipliers.
My Kenshiro's profile where we can determinate his scaling/tiers, and then apply to the other characters.
Current calcs evaluated or that still need to be evaluate...
Summary
As the title implies, this thread is an attempt at giving the cast of Super Mario Bros. a 3-B key for their profiles. For this CRT, I'll be using evidence of the Power Stars acting as multipliers along with different talking points, implications, and assumptions I compiled to back up the...
So, currently, SSJ3 doesn't have a multiplier. This thread will try to apply one
What Episode 5 has shown:
1-2: Goku vs Beerus starts, Whis thinks he has time to have a lunch
3-5: Goku transforms into Super Saiyan. Beerus considers it a slight power boost. After seeing them fight, Whis...
Does the wiki accepts lowballed statements about multipliers that aren't directly stated? For example, if a character's power is stated to be multiplied, increased by several times, or many-fold
Intro
I’m going to discuss whether the Hollow Mask should be a 5x multiplier to all stats or not.
Evidence
In the databook Masked, it’s stated three separate times that the Hollow mask is an immense amp to your spiritual power/combat ability/power. In the databook Unmasked, it’s stated that the...
Hi
Opening the Gate of Death grants you dozens stat amp on whatever your previous physical stat was
The least possible value for this is 24
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Okay, I asked in the questions and answers section and was told that there was no low-balled value for ssj2 and 3
Now I know the *2 and *4 values aren't accepted here. However, they can't just be "unknown" because that's the same as saying they don't multiply by anything, basically saying ssj2...
This will be going over the ap scaling and use of multipliers within the series. I am making this to get the scaling out the way so it won't be done later and can be referenced later on. Every calc mentioned here can also be found on the Witch Hunter page
Note: I’ll be using the letters DE to...
So from what I have seen, multipliers in tier 2 is mainly declined due to the fact that a Low 2c character wouldn't be able to affect the space outside the universe, which is possibly higher dimensional(?), but what about 2c characters? I mean, 2c characters can affect the space/void between...
Several vs Many
So I've been wondering about 数倍 (Several times) vs 何倍 (Many times) for a while now because in one series I was working on it is shown that there are many forms that are stated to be a several times boost but are also stated to be many times boost at the same time or have a...
Basically, a thing that I have always asked to myself is why Spamton NEO is not x3 stronger than his base self despite him stating so.
Is there a reason which I've missed? Because I never got an explanation to why despite searching anywhere here.
I'm talking just about the SS2 and SS3 multipliers since we do accept SSJ as a x50 boost in AP and speed.
The main argument against the use of these multipliers (x2 and x4 for SS2 and SS3, respectively) is because they're portrayed as huge boosts in the series (Gohan being weaker than Cell as a...
This post was continue from this, this, this and this.
And yes according what our new standart multiplier it says that we need direct statements for multipliers. No statement means no multiplier. Plus this is was high multiplier which even statement alone itself doesn't enough to be, and need...
Based on this. I disagree with how this is applied, but since it is accepted on the site...
High-class wizards are able to amplify their body's capabilities to the limit using magic
Strenghtening Magic its a physical boost
This allows wizards to be able to amplify their speed
Doom, by...
Zius mentions to his Even Horizon
"I told you that Have a special power.. That power is Compression. I become weak and the power that I lose become Compressed and Accumulates. When freed, I can use the compressed power... for only five minutes. The longer It accumulates, The greater The power...
Combined Attack Multipliers are currently help together by ducktape and some sticks. It's getting abused, and when something this iffy is being abused to this extent, I believe opening a new debate on it is best. I will begin by stating a counterargument for our current interpretation. From...
In the novel Sakura Hiden, a tailed beast drug was introduced by the main antagonist of the novel, Tsukiki Kido
These drugs was said to increase the power of the user by orders of magnitude. These statement was further reinforced by Sakura upon combat with him
The drug was shown to enhance...
While this verse does have a more explicit multiplier that's already accepted for creating a Mighty Statue, it has some more vague stuff too.
After the protagonist creates some more Mighty Statues, they get to work on a new monument, the Godly Statue. After it's completed, they sing its...