High 3-A Downscaling Question

[IDK3465]

Let's say Character A destroys World A, which is infinitely-sized, and as such, Character A is initially placed at baseline High 3-A
Then, Character B destroys World B, which is stated and confirmed to be half as large as World A, and due to infinity/2 still being infinity, they are also placed at High 3-A

Because of this, wouldn't World/Character A retroactively be 2x baseline due to being double World/Character B, or would World/Character A remain baseline and World/Character B is just somehow baseline/2 despite that logically making them not High 3-A?

 

[IDK3465]

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[Frey_Starlight]

i am no expert but both should just be high 3-A and not 2x baseline. If world A is confirmed infinite and World A is double of World B. both character A and B will still be scaled to High 3-A but inside the story in which this instance happened, Character B will be weaker then Character A.

Infinity is Infinity as you said but you have to remember other verses can have more 'things' in a typical infinite 3d space then the verse you are speaking for. So doing higher baselines inherently shouldn't be applied just because the story said World A (infinite) and is also 2x World B size.

 

[IDK3465]

i am no expert but both should just be high 3-A and not 2x baseline. If world A is confirmed infinite and World A is double of World B. both character A and B will still be scaled to High 3-A but inside the story in which this instance happened, Character B will be weaker then Character A.

Infinity is Infinity as you said but you have to remember other verses can have more 'things' in a typical infinite 3d space then the verse you are speaking for. So doing higher baselines inherently shouldn't be applied just because the story said World A (infinite) and is also 2x World B size.

Ok, in that case, what about the reverse? World A is infinite then World B is stated to be double World A. Would that still not be applicable for upscaling?
Or, what if Character A destroys a High 3-A structure, but is later on weakened to half their normal strength, what should we list that weakened form as?

 

[Frey_Starlight]

Or, what if Character A destroys a High 3-A structure, but is later on weakened to half their normal strength, what should we list that weakened form as?

From what I’ve seen on the wiki, the whole upscaling/downscaling thing with energy (like ronntone and joules) only matters for finite stuff, like below 3-A feats.
But High 3-A is infinite joules, so even if the character’s strength is cut in half, it’s still infinite. They’re still High 3-A. AP page states Lower for weakened status but still in same tier. So just that should be enough.

Ok, in that case, what about the reverse? World A is infinite then World B is stated to be double World A. Would that still not be applicable for upscaling?

Nope, it’s actually pretty normal. A lot of verses have universes that are bigger or smaller than each other, even if they’re all infinite. If World A and World B are both 3D universes, destroying either one would still be High 3-A (or maybe Low 2-C if you're messing with the full time axis too), but you don’t need to upscale just because World B is "double" World A. The main thing is: even if World B is twice as big, infinity is still infinity. Some fictions even have a bunch of infinite regions sharing the same "space and time" anyway. So if you can blow up an infinite 3D space with an omnidirectional attack, it doesn’t matter if it's a “bigger” infinity it’s still a High 3-A feat either way.

 

[IDK3465]

Ok, if I’m getting this right, it doesn’t matter if a universe is infinitely/2 or 2*infinity or a Gogolplex*infinity, all scale to baseline High 3-A, no upscaling or downscaling involved, gotcha.

From what I’ve seen on the wiki, the whole upscaling/downscaling thing with energy (like ronntone and joules) only matters for finite stuff, like below 3-A feats.
But High 3-A is infinite joules, so even if the character’s strength is cut in half, it’s still infinite. They’re still High 3-A. AP page states Lower for weakened status but still in same tier. So just that should be enough.

I do want to note that there actually is a few examples of multipliers/upscaling/downscaling applying to infinite values, such as Sonic’s profile listing his speed amps as being several times baseline infinite.