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  1. FuriousFieryFist

    A Lord of The Rings Upgrade for the Balrogs (And all who scale to them)

    Thanks to a recent thread which educated me on the exact specifics of our upscaling policy, I believe the Balrogs should qualify for upscaling to the next tier. The original Low 7-B calculation specifies that the Balrogs were able to damage Ungoliant when Morgoths cry was unable to injure her in...
  2. Ultron (Marvel) VS Morgoth (Tolkienverse)

    Time for Morgoth to get his first W... hopefully Morgoth, "The First Dark Lord" Key: Within the confines of Eä VS Ultron, "Genocidal Artificial Intelligence" Key: Ultron-20 Battle Info: Both start at 2 kilometers apart Both are in-character Speed is equalized (Equal stats can also be...
  3. Arceus0x

    LOTR verse speed

    God tiers have immeasurable speed because they existed in the timeless halls. Timeless void feats have been retconned a while ago. Haven't read silmarillion yet. Wouldn't this warrant a nerf?
  4. TheMerchant66

    Possible Lord of the Rings upgrade?

    In the Dagor Dagorarh, Morgoth will come back from the Void and into the Universe for one final battle. Morgoth destroys the Sun and Moon when he does this, but nothing states that he became any stronger when he comes back, just that he regenerated his limbs. If Morgoth is only as strong as...
  5. Lapsad

    Yukari Yakumo vs Morgoth

    Gold hair yokai vs God who inspire the dark Both start with thier Low-2C Speed equalized
  6. Ishneray

    Some things about Morgoth, Valar and Maiar

    Ainur can teleport to any point of the Universe instantly. The Valar and Maiar were essentially 'spirits', according to Elvish tradition given being before the making of Eä. They could go where they willed, that is could be present at once at any point in Eä where they desired to be. Unlimited...
  7. Iisdude1

    Morgoth vs Alduin

    Low 2-C Morgoth: Alduin: 5
  8. TheArsenal1212

    Dracula (Castlevania) vs Morgoth

    It's Castlevania vs LOTR here today guys and gals Low 2-C Morgoth Speed is = Dracula (Castlevania): 0 Morgoth: 0 Inconclusive: 0
  9. Stalker_Maggot

    Morgoth vs Ganon

    Morgoth vs Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors) (will switch to composite if needed) 3-A versions used Speed equalized Morgoth: Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors): Inconclusive:
  10. TheArsenal1212

    Dante vs Morgoth

    DMC 5 Dante vs True Form Low 2-C Morgoth Speed is = Dante (Devil May Cry): 0 Morgoth: 0 Inconclusive: 0
  11. TheArsenal1212

    Morgoth vs Flowey

    2-C Flowey Speed is = Morgoth: 0 Flowey: 0 Inconclusive: 0
  12. Stefano4444

    Fallen God vs God Slayer

    4-A and Speed Equalized. Kratos: 0 () Morgoth: 3 (Sir sun ma, ABoogieYesSir, Zaratthustra) Inconclusive: 0 ()
  13. EmperorRorepmeThree

    The Dovahkiin vs Morgoth

    The Dovahkii vs Morgoth Low 2-C. Fus Ro Dah The Dovahkiin: 10 (Ogbunabali, Keeweed, SheevShezarinne, Darth Descender, Schwxnz, The Archdemon, Waria, StarSlayer666, Kong, Paul Frank, TOAAPRESENCE1) Morgoth:
  14. StarSlayer666

    A guy that hates elves VS An elf

    Neloth VS Morgoth Location: Timeless Halls Neloth: Morgoth: Inconclusive:
  15. StarSlayer666

    Vestige VS Morgoth

    Base Vestige 'VERSUS Full Power Morgoth Vestige: Morgoth: Inconclusive:
  16. StarSlayer666

    Alduin VS Morgoth

    Aldui VS Morgoth Standard Battle Assumptions
  17. ABoogieYesSir

    Ghost Rider v.s. Morgoth ­ƒÿ«

    Both are at their 3-B version Speed is Equalized Both start away 100km from each other Who wins and why?
  18. Elizio33

    Corruption Morgoth & Sauron

    Shouldn't Morgoth and Sauro have this ability? Morgoth has corrupted Sauron and many others.
  19. ZacharyGrossman273

    Eru Iluvatars Powers

    Creation is an obvious one He should have all the powers of the Ainur for obvious reasons (And really the powers of the good guys in verse) Omnipresence should go, I don't think that's ever actually stated Omniscience should probably just be nigh omniscience He should resist most of...
  20. Setsuna_tenma

    Morgoth vs Bard

    Morogoth vs Bard 3B version speed equalized
  21. Zenkaibattery1

    Grandmother Raven vs Morgoth

    Grandmother Rave vs Morgoth Raven has The Eyes Of Time Speed equalized Raven: Morgoth: Inconclusive:
  22. Phoenix821

    Morgoth Vs Time (Incarnations of Immortality)

    Morgoth: 0 Time (Incarnations of Immortality): 0 Inconclusive: 0 Both 2-C Speed Equal.
  23. Eficiente

    Morgoth vs Kirby (Grace period)

    Weakened Morgoth: 1 (ZacharyGrossman273) Kirby: 7 (The real cal howard, TriforcePower1, Kirby71, GyroNutz, ABoogieYesSir, ThePixelKirby, EMagoIorSouI) Inconclusive: 0
  24. The_Archdemon

    Morgoth vs Luke Skywalker

    The Fight Both at 4-A Speed is not equalized (for now) Standard Battle Assumptions Votes The Black Enemy: 0 The Jedi: 1 Inconclusive: 0
  25. NaturalDestroyer

    Elves and Maiar Scaling Revisions

    I'm a tad confused about the scaling issues between the strongest Maiar and Elves on the LotR pages here. Here I've compiled a body of evidence suggesting that they're more equal than generally assumed as well as closer to the Valar in power. If accepted, this would result in serious upgrades...
  26. Hagane_no_Saiyajin

    Dark Lord vs Dominatrix

    vs Take more Iris instead 2-C versions, speed equalized Dark Lord: Dominatrix: tie: FIGHT!!!!!
  27. NaturalDestroyer

    Morgoth vs Dark Souls

    4-A Morgoth vs all Dark Souls characters with pages. How many can he fight at once? Does he solo the verse? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Souls https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morgoth Morgoth: 5 Dark Souls: 0 Inconclusive: 0
  28. Jinsye

    Morgoth vs. Abeloth

    I was tempted to give Emprah another win but, eh. So yeah, I watched the LOTR movies and never read anything related to Star Wars. I can't help on this one much. 4-A versions used. Speed Equalized because I think Abeloth outspeeds by alot. Who wins? Morgoth: 0 Abeloth: 4
  29. MasterOfArda

    GEOM vs Morgoth

    Round one: Weakened Morgoth (At least 4-A, likely 3-B) vs Materium Emperor Round two: Full power Morgoth (3-A) vs Materium Emperor For the sake of this match we are saying Morgoth has time stop.
  30. Assaltwaffle

    Morgoth vs The God King

    Two 3-A evil kings decide to duke it out. The Lord of the Ring vs the Lord of the Void. Two fantasy worlds clash together, but only one malevolent world-ender can arise. Rules Morgoth is at Full Power The God King is 3-A Speed Equalized SBA aside from that Who wins and why? Morgoth: 0...
  31. MasterOfArda

    Morgoth vs Goku

    3-A keys for both
  32. MasterOfArda

    Miscellaneous LOTR revisions

    Powers Smoke manipulation (Gandalf): In the Hobbit, Gandalf creates a pillar of smoke and sparks to distract the goblins. Heat manipulation (Gandalf, the Balrogs, and Morgoth): Gandalf manipulates heat to create sparks and fire several times; the Balrogs can match his magic, and Morgoth has...
  33. MasterOfArda

    Morgoth revision

    So, currently Morgoth is slightly problematic in the reasoning for his stats. He is currently rated as "At least Low 2-C" for his ability "change the song that brought the universe into being", and for being comparable to 14 Low 2-C entities. However, according to Azathoth, the reasoning for...
  34. MasterOfArda

    The possibility of Maiar true forms

    Currently the Valar have true forms ranked as Low 2-C because of three quotes: 1. "Then the voices of the Ainur, like unto harps and lutes, and pipes and trumpets, and viols and organs, and like unto countless choirs singing with words, began to fashion the theme of Il├║vatar to a great music...
  35. MasterOfArda

    Morgoth vs the God Emperor of mankind vs the Nightbringer vs the Father

    All at least 4-A. Who is the strongest?! Morgoth: 2 The God Emperor of Mankind: 1 The Nightbringer: 0 The Father: 0
  36. Assaltwaffle

    Lord of the Rings Top Tier Revisions

    After looking through the LotR profiles, I noticed some inconsistencies and abnormalities in the top tiers of the verse. 1. Eru Iluvatar - Attack Potency and Tier: The biggest offender by a fair margin. He is currently described as "Unknown, at the very least 2-C." For one, using "at the very...
  37. Samanthademeste

    Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls) VS Morgoth (Tolkienverse)

    Who wins and why?
  38. ZacharyGrossman273

    Orcus VS Morgoth

    Low 2-C Fantasy villain fight The Demon Lord of The Undead VS The Fallen Valar
  39. ZacharyGrossman273

    Melkor VS Thanos

    Low 2-C versions of both
  40. ZacharyGrossman273

    Inti VS Melkor

    Weakened Melkor. Speed is equalized.