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Time for Morgoth to get his first W... hopefully
Morgoth, "The First Dark Lord"
Key: Within the confines of Eä
VS
Ultron, "Genocidal Artificial Intelligence"
Key: Ultron-20
Battle Info:
Both start at 2 kilometers apart
Both are in-character
Speed is equalized (Equal stats can also be...
God tiers have immeasurable speed because they existed in the timeless halls.
Timeless void feats have been retconned a while ago.
Haven't read silmarillion yet.
Wouldn't this warrant a nerf?
In the Dagor Dagorarh, Morgoth will come back from the Void and into the Universe for one final battle. Morgoth destroys the Sun and Moon when he does this, but nothing states that he became any stronger when he comes back, just that he regenerated his limbs.
If Morgoth is only as strong as...
Ainur can teleport to any point of the Universe instantly.
The Valar and Maiar were essentially 'spirits', according to Elvish tradition given being before the making of Eä. They could go where they willed, that is could be present at once at any point in Eä where they desired to be.
Unlimited...
Morgoth vs Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors) (will switch to composite if needed)
3-A versions used
Speed equalized
Morgoth:
Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors):
Inconclusive:
Creation is an obvious one
He should have all the powers of the Ainur for obvious reasons (And really the powers of the good guys in verse)
Omnipresence should go, I don't think that's ever actually stated
Omniscience should probably just be nigh omniscience
He should resist most of...
I'm a tad confused about the scaling issues between the strongest Maiar and Elves on the LotR pages here. Here I've compiled a body of evidence suggesting that they're more equal than generally assumed as well as closer to the Valar in power. If accepted, this would result in serious upgrades...
4-A Morgoth vs all Dark Souls characters with pages. How many can he fight at once? Does he solo the verse?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Souls
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morgoth
Morgoth: 5
Dark Souls: 0
Inconclusive: 0
I was tempted to give Emprah another win but, eh.
So yeah, I watched the LOTR movies and never read anything related to Star Wars. I can't help on this one much.
4-A versions used.
Speed Equalized because I think Abeloth outspeeds by alot.
Who wins?
Morgoth: 0
Abeloth: 4
Round one: Weakened Morgoth (At least 4-A, likely 3-B) vs Materium Emperor
Round two: Full power Morgoth (3-A) vs Materium Emperor
For the sake of this match we are saying Morgoth has time stop.
Two 3-A evil kings decide to duke it out. The Lord of the Ring vs the Lord of the Void. Two fantasy worlds clash together, but only one malevolent world-ender can arise.
Rules
Morgoth is at Full Power
The God King is 3-A
Speed Equalized
SBA aside from that
Who wins and why?
Morgoth: 0...
Powers
Smoke manipulation (Gandalf): In the Hobbit, Gandalf creates a pillar of smoke and sparks to distract the goblins.
Heat manipulation (Gandalf, the Balrogs, and Morgoth): Gandalf manipulates heat to create sparks and fire several times; the Balrogs can match his magic, and Morgoth has...
So, currently Morgoth is slightly problematic in the reasoning for his stats. He is currently rated as "At least Low 2-C" for his ability "change the song that brought the universe into being", and for being comparable to 14 Low 2-C entities.
However, according to Azathoth, the reasoning for...
Currently the Valar have true forms ranked as Low 2-C because of three quotes:
1.
"Then the voices of the Ainur, like unto harps and lutes, and pipes and trumpets, and viols and organs, and like unto countless choirs singing with words, began to fashion the theme of Il├║vatar to a great music...
After looking through the LotR profiles, I noticed some inconsistencies and abnormalities in the top tiers of the verse.
1. Eru Iluvatar - Attack Potency and Tier: The biggest offender by a fair margin. He is currently described as "Unknown, at the very least 2-C." For one, using "at the very...