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dragon ball (toei)

  1. Brogeefrong

    Toei Vegeta gets a decent buff

    Currently we have Namek Saga Vegeta after his 4th Zenkai at High 4-C, for Surpassing both Piccolo and Third Form Frieza in power, but ultimately proved no match for Frieza in his final form I'm proposing Vegeta should get at most 4-A for being able to survive some attacks against a heavily...
  2. CRIMPSUMPSKI2

    possibly one of the funniest feats in all of Dragon Ball

    So, in DBZ episode 12, Piccolo was meditating and lifting pyramids with his telekinesis. He then messes up his ki control, the pyramid explodes, and he starts creating massive environmental effects with HIS SHEER AURA. He did things like cause massive earthquakes (probably Mag 9+), crushing...
  3. RanaProGamer

    Naruto vs Goku ONE MORE TIME

    Thanks to the recent Toei upgrades, this matchup can happen now. I'm sure we've all seen those fanarts of SSJ Goku against Naruto. Standard Battle Assumptions Speed equalized 4-A Versions SSJ Goku scales to 168.5 ExaFoe Six Paths Naruto scales to 33.76 ExaFoe due to scaling twice above this...
  4. CRIMPSUMPSKI2

    Huge DBZ Toei Upgrade Part 2 - The Meta, Shifted

    As a follow up to this thread, which received unanimous agreement from staff and layman alike, I decided to revise the AP blog using many new statements and lines of scaling. The key changes are as follows: Saiyan and Namek Sagas get huge multiplier changes and backscaling due to several...
  5. pineappleman

    Dragon Ball Z (Toei) Upgrade: The Meta Shifter

    For as long as I can remember, mid-DBZ Toei scaling has felt gimped. The characters remain around the Low to High 4-C mark from the end of the Saiyan saga all the way to the end of the Cell saga; a shocking contrast to the typical power jumps you'd come to expect from the anime. This all stems...
  6. Ednaxel2

    New Son Goku (Toei) renders

    This seems like a veeeery big nitpick but I want to change the renders for Goku's profile because the current ones are not good, I'll be using renders that are are more faithful to the anime's art style instead of stuff you see on promotional material Here's the template for it as well I added...
  7. Ednaxel2

    Monkey Bros vs. Big Monkey (Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT) & Vegeta (Dragon Ball GT) vs Broly (Dragon Ball Super))

    Planet of the apes 10 lookin good Super 17/Shadow Dragons Saga Key is used for Goku/Vegeta, and both are in Super Saiyan 4 Base Key is used for Broly Speed is equalized Fight takes place in the Tournament of Power arena Goku & Vegeta: Broly:
  8. Ednaxel2

    Dragon Ball GT Speed Upgrade

    Everything is in this blog All evidence for why one character is faster than another is already in their character profiles
  9. TegamiBachi25

    Frieza tries to destroy a Namekian (Frieza vs Lord Slug)

    Let’s say slug arrives to Namek around the time Frieza went into his final form and before Goku arrives to fight him, hearing of frieza’s reputation Freiza grows an angry aneurysm at a surviving namekian and his wish stolen. The Z fighters are KO’ed by the new enemy while frieza watches before...
  10. MeiouHades

    Goku's Afterlife traversing feat recalc?

    So, the feat in question (this one) has been used for quite a while for Toei and GT speed scaling. But ever since the changes in the way we measure the size of The Otherworld (said changes also affecting Toei and GT due to our current composite DB cosmology), the calc has become obsolete. We are...
  11. RanaProGamer

    Naruto Takes On DBZ's Final Villain

    Naruto replaces Majin Vegeta in their battle, what would be the outcome? Standard Battle Assumptions Speed equalized 4-A Versions. Naruto scales to 1.688e63 Joules Buu scales to 5.8331644e+63 J Six Paths Naruto (Storm 4) vs Innocent Buu (Toei) Who wins and why?
  12. MeiouHades

    Strongest 90s Toeiverse character? Let’s find out!

    As title says, we’re putting two Toeiverse characters against each other from the 90s. Now while yes one of them isn’t exactly from the 90s, the original SM anime is from that era so it works. Anyway, we have: GT Adult Goku vs Usagi Tsukino (Neo-Queen Serenity) Rules: Speed is NOT...
  13. MeiouHades

    Yet another Goku vs Naruto matchup….

    As title says, this is yet another Goku vs Naruto matchup. However, this one hopefully stays on their profiles whichever way it goes. We have Toei Goku in his Saiyan Saga Key vs Part 2 Naruto in his SiX Paths key: Speed is NOT equalized Win by ANY conditions Starting distance is 50 meters...
  14. Eden_Warlock99

    Dragon Ball Toei - Turles Rework & Upgrade

    The Saiyan version of Frieza lacked scans and references, so you know I had to do it to em Here's the reworked profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Adem_Warlock69/Turles_Rework Removed the Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans key since it's from a Game OVA and Gohan even states later on...
  15. MeiouHades

    Why is SSJ3 Goku 3-B?

    So I was looking at Toei Goku’s profile and in it, he has a 3-B key in his SSJ3 state from the movie Fusion Reborn. His justification is: Multi-Galaxy Level as a Super Saiyan 3 (Shook the Afterlife merely by transforming). But this doesn’t hold with our current accepted standards, does it...
  16. BestMGQScalerEver

    Uncompositing the Dragon Ball Cosmology

    I've been personally conflicted about this topic (Dragon Ball Super and GT sharing the same overarching cosmology/multiverse) for a while and decided to go for a downgrade on premises I think are faulty. I'll address what's in the verse page for my argument. First off the scan here isn't...
  17. LuffyRuffy46307

    Dragon Ball GT Immortalities Evil Dragons

    Nuova Shenron type 4 immortality He was killed and then reborn through the four-star sphere itself because of the evil energy obtained through Omega (thus being able to restore his entire body completely) Type 8 Immortality for Evil Dragons Dragon Ball GT databook THE LAST WISH The last...
  18. Lenyo456

    What 4-C Mecha Freeza scale to?

    You read the title, it's for this battle here
  19. TegamiBachi25

    DBZ Toei profiles

    As the title states, I'm curious about how or which profiles get scaled to the DBZ anime. Why do certain characters like Goku, Vegeta, Cell, and Buu get Toei profiles but a few other characters don't? I'm just curious if there is a process done or something to scale the characters from the anime...
  20. Nullflowerblush

    Downgrading the cosmology. Oooo, spooky. (Dragon Ball)

    That Ultra Instinct Regeneration thread is closed. Room for another? This is the original thread. Here is a series of counterarguments, because nobody did a lick of research. Episode summary, which is supporting evidence. Can be ignored, especially because not a single line of dialogue in the...
  21. Tots_Real

    Probably A Stomp: Dani vs Pan

    Dani vs Pan https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dani_Phantom https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pan_(Dragon_Ball_GT) Season 3 Dani Speed Equalized
  22. LuffyRuffy46307

    Small addition to Majin Buu

    A being called Majin Buu was created millions of years ago to cause destruction and satisfy the evil desires of the wizard Bibidi, even causing the death of several Kaioshins, but the creature was sealed in an egg and meanwhile the Supreme Kais killed Bibidi...
  23. ProudLearner

    Massive Abilities Upgrade for Cell (Toei)

    Anime Cell has statements that give him several abilities and resistances. All of this is because of life forms incorporated in his DNA, including biological traits, experiences, Hax, and resistances. These are the following statements: DBZ 144 - Piccolo's Grievous Mistake! Cell Escapes Into...
  24. LuffyRuffy46307

    Yet another space-time addition to Dragon Ball cosmology

    West Kai suggests they have a tournament to see who has the best disciples. Grand Kai likes the idea of a tournament. Then, Grand Kai walks away, and everyone follows him. Grand Kai shows him the Otherworld Stadium, which is actually a different dimension. Goku is excited about fighting in the...
  25. Omegas03

    Universe 7 size

    I am rather confused about the Universe 7 size, it was agreed to be 3 universes; then 2 now its 6 why is it 6 now? When was it agreed to be 6 and which are all the 6 universe sized dimensions?
  26. SSJGeminiJJ

    Dragon Ball Cosmology Minor Revision

    Note: This revision has 0 effect on the current accepted tiers of the characters or scope of the cosmology. All it does is give further justification to the canon timeline's (DBZ manga to DBS anime/manga) already accepted 2-C cosmology for the macrocosm made up of the Living World, Afterlife...
  27. Hagane_no_Saiyajin

    The High 3-A (or 4-A) upgrade for Toei DBZ

    Now in the show we see Buu perform a similar feat to what Broly did, Occum's razor would suggest that Fat Buu would be High 3-A just like Broly as this is the justification for him: This would explicitly make Buu either 3-C or 4-A Although considering how Buu could tank his put up somewhat of...
  28. SlendVeny

    Baryon Mode Naruto fights Toei Goku

    Toei Goku is in his BoZ/Dead Zone key. This is not the same as the last match, as: -Battle takes place in one of the wastelands near where Goku fought Vegeta. -Speed is NOT equalized. -Goku has 1 Senzu Bean. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki_(New_Era)...
  29. LuffyRuffy46307

    A little update for a super multiverse

    Happy Goku Day!!! We see in the manga that it is demonstrated that the villains are destroyed to such a level that there are not even molecules or matter left behind, you can very well see this when Cell is defeated in such an absurd level that it is completely erased from the comics...
  30. SIGMA vs FREEZA ( 2 - 0 - 0 )

    ●RULES : ▪The Speed is = ▪Random encounter for both ; ▪Both at High 5-A and this is First form Freeza and he cant transform ; ▪ Sigma has all the 6 Gems ; ▪ They will start at 10 meters away ; ▪ Battle location : Namek MAVERICK KING : @Isaiah_ZaMangaka @Kaio1277999 EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE ...
  31. Omegas03

    17 vs. 17

    they scale to the same feat so this can be done lmao ToP 17 vs. Super 17 both are 2-C and speed is equalized, whos winning this?
  32. LordGriffin1000

    Wizard Boy VS Fighting Monkey: Nash (W.I.T.C.H.) vs Son Goku (Toei)

    Match Rules Both in Character Speed is Equalized High 3-A Versions (Nashter vs Buu Saga SS3 Goku) Location: Earth Nashter: Son Goku (Toei): Inconclusive:
  33. Stefano4444

    Majin Buu Saga Toei Scaling Revision

    I'm not good at wording so i will try to go right to the point, i have some issues when it come with the current scaling of DBZ Anime. 1) Post-Vegito Division Key for Vegeta and Goku should not exist. The only major power increase that Vegeta had during the Buu Saga was with the Majin Form via...
  34. CRIMPSUMPSKI2

    Small DBZ Toei revision

    Nothing too controversial, but this calc used for Saiyan saga Vegeta is way off imo, as the planet keeps exploding for a while after the given timeframe (it's more like 6.08 to 7.95, not 5.69 to 6.36). I've made this blog, which comes out to 10.935 Quettatons (Small Star level). Quite a...
  35. Saintdhqhdy

    Toei - DBZ Broly Upgrade

    Broly is stated to have bottomless power multiple times Bottomless could just mean really deep, etc, as a equal interpretation, I’ll just argue it means boundless or unlimited since bottomless could also mean that and then give reasoning for why that interpretation is above the others. The...
  36. Omegas03

    Resurrection of F, but Frieza comes back a bit earlier.

    Short story, Frieza comes back to earth a couple years earlier. With no other option to defend the earth against him Goku and Vegeta are forced to fuse. which leaves us with Super Saiyan Gogeta against Golden Frieza. 2-C keys (Toei Gogeta from Fusion Reborn meanwhile Canon Golden Frieza...
  37. StrymULTRA

    Frieza's race and the lack of organs

    Greetings. I have noticed something which is pretty odd about Frieza himself, and the following revision will affect also his race in general. The following thread will try to introduce the fact that Frieza's race is consistently showcased as without organs in all the medias, with their...
  38. Torrus_Silvèr

    Buuhan Downgrade to Low 2C?

    It was proposed here https://vsbattles.com/threads/db-toei-about-buuhans-tier-2-rating.152322/ That Buuhans technique outside space should scale to his AP in which this was agreed upon. However during the post it was mentioned that the daizenshuu stated that the space Buuhan was warping would...
  39. StrymULTRA

    DBZ Fusion Reborn - Description Addition

    Alright, so, given that Buu saga God tiers (thus also GT characters as a side effect) became 2-C after Buuhan's upgrade, I'll throw my piece about some of the feats they have. Janemba So, we know that Janemba has completely distorted the Afterlife, and I believe that it is a Low 2-C for the...
  40. Omegas03

    I can finally do this (I guess).

    GT Goku (Shadow Dragon arc) vs. DBS Goku (Tournament of Power arc, pre Ultra Instinct sign) Both are 2-C and speed is equalized. Both start in base. GT Goku can access all his Super Saiyan transformations including Limits Broken SSJ4 while DBS Goku can access up to SSB Kaioken x20. If this...
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