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  1. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Strongest Character for Every Tier 24

    Its weird stuff honestly. We know Transcen can perceive all higher dimensions (1-B to a ridiculous degree) from their no-spacetime realm. And also able to see the 'ultimate truth of reality' (Probably some platonic philosophy thing again) The Zero-Dimensional metaphor seems to imply that it...
  2. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Strongest Character for Every Tier 24

    I guess. All I see from True MGs is high AP.... which Transcen has.... Oooh, how I want to add 11-C Key to Transcen profile.... That SCP sitting on 11-C throne need to be contested But it will be a different order of reality, Alia. Think of a cone. Imagine taking slices through that cone...
  3. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Othinus VS Transcendence

    Transcen can give Othinus Acausality to make things fair ovo At a glance, Transcen's reality warping seems superior to Othinus' phase manipulation. I got the feeling True MG is better match. Especially since they'd get Low 1-B. Both Kazuma and Baxter really like to emphasize their gods are...
  4. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Aiwass vs Six Fold God

    Concept Manipulation is definite advantage. Why are To Aru high-tiers considered to be candidate for 'Strongest High 1-Cs' again?
  5. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Aiwass vs Six Fold God

    Both are High 1-C [vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Aiwass|"Aiwass"] vs [vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/The_Six-Fold_God|"Sixfoldgod"] sba A : 0 S : 0 Inconclusive : 0
  6. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Simon VS Transcendence

    Tranacen lost Mod-Godly now. Azathoth said Transcen not dying just means their Type 5 Acausality is in full effect. Not that it changes anything here.
  7. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Their most notable 'feat' is them being the first in Xeeleeverse. And them being super abstract thing that exist in aspatiotemporal realm. Monads exist only through 'relation to each other'. So they're less like beings and more like 'relations' I guess lol. Basically Monads and Transcen are...
  8. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Wisemon vs Nono

    Obviously I meant that thousand KiloFoe is megaFoe.
  9. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    In the Restoration, every human that possibly could have existed would be brought into reality. It would be a stunning, shining moment of rectification. Such trivialities as causality and consequence would be abandoned — but the Transcendence would be infinite, I reminded myself; and to an...
  10. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Mid godly is from their ability to genocide all humanity. Retcon them all to not exist. But Transcen themselves are humanity gestalt, and iirc its implied that Transcen can wish themselves back to existence even after that multiversal genocide (Wat?). Its confusing and paradoxical. The novel...
  11. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Wisemon vs Nono

    You meant 'data' right? I only remember that thousand kiloFoe thing for Nono
  12. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Probably should be separate. Its pretty clear that there's literally 'unbreachable' gap between Pre-singularity and Post-singularity. Post-singularity many times said to be 'more infinite' than Pre. Pre is compared to 2D while Post is compared to 0D. To picture how drastic the change is. You...
  13. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Well, you can always modify the page yourself. Replace 'At least' with 'Possibly'. Seems simple enough.
  14. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Uh, the number of higher dimensions is probably more than 10^82 + 11 'base' dimensions. 10^80 is just rough guess. I just haven't done any 'calc' to determine the exact number. Oh well, I'll modify it myself. :) Edit : on the second thought, nevermind. I doubt it'd change anything.
  15. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Wisemon vs Nono

    Yeah, EE, which I haven't made CRT for now that I thought about it. Shit . What's the gap? Does 80 AU blackhole manipulation really has been added to Nono's page? I don't actually know how high Nono's degree of EE is. Is it baseline or higher? Because it just manipulate information. The...
  16. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    It seems DarkLK gave an OK Now we just need Antvasima here....
  17. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Yeah, I understand. But I got the impression that Azzy is only agreeing for 'Possibly 1-B' at most. We need staff in here anyway. Azathoth and Nedge already gave verdict.
  18. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Its freaking weird though if we're agreeing with Azathoth's explanation. "Transcen can only affect things inside higher dimension but not higher dimensions itself. So they stay High 1-C." I mean, what's the point in having ability to control entirety of Config Space then? I know we don't have...
  19. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Two keys. 'Pre-Singularity' (Compared to 2Dimensional) and 'After-Singularity' (Compared to Zero Dimension). Config Space is just higher dimensions, yes. But Transcend's mechanics seems to imply they control a realm higher than Config Space. That holographic principle thing. I mean, why the...
  20. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Simon VS Transcendence

    Even if Transcen is still High 1-C, I'd still bet on Transcen's abstractness. They seem to have entirely different nature than 11-D reality after all.
  21. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Haha, the number of higher dimensions really sound ridiculous. Maybe its highest number of finite 1-B ever recorded.
  22. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Azathoth seems to disagree about 1-A. He's not even sure if its even 1-B, haha. Hmm, I need to call more people it seems.
  23. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    That bit about them being 'consciousness of xeeleeverse' that I posted above is nearest thing I guess. Level of awareness decides your powerlevel in Xeeleeverse it seems. And Transcen is aware of whole verse along 'fully aware of themselves', both seem to cause them to jump in powerlevel. That...
  24. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    @Azathoth Actually currently I haven't found anymore quotes. They're just described to manipulate information. They can do what they want because they'd be subjective will of xeeleeverse itself. So, currently, what's your verdict? 1-B is a go I guess?
  25. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Yes. It is 1-B thing. Have many higher dimensions (10^80 higher dimensions or so) but most likely limited. Thank you @Azathoth for comment. Have you read "this" thing too? It elaborates the Nature of Transcendence. Its compared to zero dimensional point to 3D cone (represents degree of...
  26. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Nono's AP Revision (Gunbuster)

    Bump
  27. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Simon VS Transcendence

    So is this Probability Manipulation vs Concept Manipulation or something else? Simon has many resistance and evolve on the go, but I don't see them being useful in opposing Transcen's Information editing.
  28. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Nono's AP Revision (Gunbuster)

    I'm done adding high end, Crzer07.
  29. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Nono's AP Revision (Gunbuster)

    @Crzer07 Okay, I'll start working at on low 4-C Eh, I don't really know. But what's obvious is it reconciles/repairs causality. So probably limited Causality manipulation? Eh, maybe later. Thx for reading that longass rant lol.
  30. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    Okay. Now we just need to wait for unlocking the page. I can't totally memorize what's needed to be revised actually, haha. Regen, nonduality, beyondimensional existence, Concept type 1... do I miss anything? Thank you.
  31. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    I tried Azathoth but he is probably busy. Maybe I'll try DarkLK. Agreed. Both Monads and Transcendence might be equal. "And then there is our greater fate. Beyond the walls of time there are greater minds still, Alia. We call them monads. Our universe might not have been; there were other...
  32. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    bump
  33. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Lord English VS The Transcendence

    Grace period ends or what? Can it be added now?
  34. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    @Nedge So you are agree on my Interpretation 2? Well that's unexpected. So do we do revision or what? Because there are two matches involving The Transcendence. One is almost concluded to boot. Because this New Rating (1-A or whatever) have more solid ground to stand on IMO (my blog which...
  35. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Xeelee : The Transcendence's Possible Tier Revision

    I made a blog (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lucis%3Dthe%3DLumenian/Xeelee_Sequence_Cosmology). And I just realized that going by Xeeleeverse's cosmology, Transcendence's capability and their current Tier don't match. Basically the blog summary is : Possibilities are in higher...
  36. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    The Transcendence vs Ea (I/O)

    Come to think of it, what's Ea's brand of Conceptual Type? 2 or 3?
  37. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    The Transcendence vs Ea (I/O)

    From what I get Transcen has to absorb/kill her for eternity. Granted, infinite tasks is trivial to Transcen but that's hardly incap to me... But Transcen might be able to get full control of Ea to prevent any intervention from Enigma?
  38. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    The Transcendence vs Ea (I/O)

    Then the Thread Creator should make another victory condition, by Incapacitation. I mean, normally you'd assume its Victory by Permakill, right?
  39. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    The Transcendence vs Ea (I/O)

    The System restores her no matter how many times you kill her. Absorbing would just restores her. As I said, might be a bad match.
  40. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    The Transcendence vs Ea (I/O)

    @Iapitus if that's so then Transcen is bad match if you want to beat Ea. You need to kill the Enigma System (1-A?) to permakill her, right? Or maybe Power Nullification?
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