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  1. MichaelJZero

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    I was doing some research for a video and came across this from 2022. Wanted to debunk this. There are a few objective problems with this statement from Deagon. The first, that the entire next 50 posts totally ignored that Morrison here directly explains what the Cosmic Armor Superman...
  2. MichaelJZero

    Bleed is 5D (DC Comics)

    " Bleed considered a realer reality to our own?" Yep, in Final Crisis only, though. And Grant has explained this a giggle worthy amount of times that this is the context. Its not supposed to be in the DCU, it contains the DCU and even us. Here also is a thing that Grant said about E33 and...
  3. MichaelJZero

    Bleed is 5D (DC Comics)

    Hi! Please, let me chime in with some data that may be missing in these discussions. The first missing piece is context related. The Bleed is 4-D in the Final Crisis series. However, in that series, it is a meta thing, in context, that contains the artwork itself in a literal sense. So...
  4. MichaelJZero

    Misconception about the Overvoid

    Great stuff. Here are a few things to help others on the Absolute Void and Dax Novu topics. In case anyone wants to research the interviews most of this cosmology was entirely based on, from the religious figures who explain it IRL. Just here to give the references to the interviews all of...
  5. MichaelJZero

    Content Revision for Non-dual Overvoid should be reset back to what it was

    1 month passes and nobody wants to acknowledge how the original revision was made based on "there being no evidence to the Overvoid being nondual" except for the 5 references that exist?
  6. MichaelJZero

    Content Revision for Non-dual Overvoid should be reset back to what it was

    I heard rumors that it is widely accepted here that the Overvoid, for Grant's Final Crisis era, was not nondual and that there is no evidence to this at all. Here are 5 pieces of evidence for it. Green Lantern issue 1 - The characters talk about the Overvoid and it being nondual, and above the...
  7. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Thats true, I should chill. Please, let me explain why I mocked him and to apologize for it. He said that FH > Overvoid for years while the author confirmed the opposite and so did the comics literally at the same moment his posts were made. Nobody here even saw the Twitter statements I...
  8. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Don't really care and will continue to slam you at every point possible when you make up stuff. Your threats mean nothing to me, kiddo. At this point, you and your 19 alias's can't' do anything else but try to flag me each time I debunk you or show that you lied to everyone. YOU SAID HE WAS...
  9. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    You are backpeddling. You insisted he wasn't Buddhist and he was. And now you are trying to save face. This is 100% spot on correct. Some users purposely feared separtion of the Morrison cosmology because it disrupted the classic view of the Lucifer 2000 and Gaiman Vertigo cosmology...
  10. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    We were told so many times in this thread alone that there is contradiction in the Morrison lore. Where? Tarang above in this thread and others said there was contradiction, but none of you ever post it beyond that you think there is. Nothing but that they want it to be that way and nothing...
  11. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Oh by the way, since you all here who hate me loveeeeeeeee to use guidebooks elsewhere, like from Marvel, or handbooks from World Of Darkness to justify yourselves...here is a fun one. Here is Grant and the Guidebook differentiating the Source with the Overvoid. Saying some worlds and concepts...
  12. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Years out now from the first time you said this to me and you are still ducking providing any evidence to it. Nobody has ever showed that it contradicts. You just say it and run, then months later I remember you are still around and I post something, only for you to return to posting that same...
  13. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    Yea see, like I said. Its quite amazing how poor the debating skill is when it comes to anyone who challenges me. This is literally shown on the cosmic map as the source wall that is the red to violet. So how is this relevant, Deagon? How is this your trump card when the map relates this...
  14. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    Voidism and the Kabbalah share the exact same structure. You can find this data in 5 seconds of a Google search. Both religions focus on the Void aspect as the True God of all things at the top, one without a personality that is not called the Creator God by those who practice the faith. You...
  15. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    This user stated the inverse because he knows it is the inverse. And the inverse data is more beneficial to his favoritism and preferences that are forged by the group consensus having no respect for content creators they dislike.
  16. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    I cannot facepalm myself harder, I've achieved infinite Deagon physical palm strike on self levels now. Maharishi is just another popular religious person of the Voidist religion, no different than a very prominent priest is to Christianity. Its absurd and ridiculous you are saying Grant...
  17. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    Fear of evidence and appeal to self are not valid arguments. Your denial of evidence from authors and content creators just means you don't want to be fair at all. But that doesn't matter, I can still show the content for CAS, Mandrakk and the Overvoid of FC exceed the values of curret tier...
  18. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    When I post scans directly from the comic that showcase this, how is that not supported in the comic? That's just denial at its finest, my friend. Here are all the reasons why what you said doesn't work in an actual evidence based discussion. The Flaw is everything the Overvoid isn't. So...
  19. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    Also just to simplify this further. Multiple authors and editors call the CAS all story. Every character and location and place in DC is part of story. CAS should be higher on the list than any single DC character with the context of being from DC comics meta. The Absolute field of the...
  20. MichaelJZero

    Remove Transduality from Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

    Grant says Overvoid is nondual and that all concepts resolve to meaningless unity with the Void. This is Transduality described by the Author in the interviews It's nondual, from IGN's Final Crisis interview. Nondual...where concepts go to stop being concepts. Why are you removing titles and...
  21. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    No prob, just made this for you. Hope that is enough. And here are some of the documents. Mandrakk and the Overvoid are a two in one definition, corroboration of what Grant said in the comic that Mandrakk is the corruption of the Overvoid. The Presence aint the Source and neither are the...
  22. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Always was. All anyone had to do was reach out to me and ask for it, and they received it. You literally said its just my opinion when I showed you all of this below, which means you could care less what the comics said, what the guidebooks said, and what the content creators said about their...
  23. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Your only come back was to say I just want it my way.......after I posted a huge wall of content from the authors, editors, illustrators, and the guidebooks and the comics that are polar opposite of your rankings? Bravo. Tag me when you want something else debunked with actual evidence and not...
  24. MichaelJZero

    The true “God” of DC

    The True God of DC is the Source, the New Gods Jack Kirby entity. This one. The god of a few creations in the lesser void of creation, is the Presence. This guy. Silk Man and Cestis predate the Presence. The Presence gets deleted in the new series and the angels go into the Void to...
  25. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Just saying what the author said. Ask Grant, Grant says Overvoid > all. And that the Overvoid contains all story, all anything. Not a clue how anyone, even one person can sit here and tell me the Overvoid ranks low 1C when its regarded as what contains DC entirely as a meta as well as Marvel...
  26. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    "Grant didn't reference the Maharishi" Deagon insisting Voidism, a 10,000 year old religion, was made by the Maharishi...is well...Idk what to say at that point. *facepalm This cosmology is based on the Kabbalah and the Voidism religion regardless of how much Deagon wants to wiggle around...
  27. MichaelJZero

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Hi everyone, your friendly most hated debater again here to debunk some debaters <3 The Ayin is the infinite Void of nothing before anything at all. It is total emptiness and void before God was God. In the Kabbalah, the Source is called the Ain Soph Aurr by Grant in an interview here. The...
  28. MichaelJZero

    Mandrakk Plot Manipulation Thread: additional Information for you to consider

    Was linked to this thread recently and asked to add more information for the mods to consider. https://vsbattles.com/threads/dc-comics-mandrakk-plot-manipulation-addition.149739/ In this thread and a few others Bleed is the literal ink meta in comic books and beyond the panels. This is...
  29. MichaelJZero

    Revision of the Presence to Low 1A and the Cosmic Armor Superman, Mandrakk, Nil Monitors to High 1A

    The Presence does not have power outside of his own creation(s) and out in the Void. The Presence is not the Source, at best, the Presence is considered a segregated lower tier of one of the emotional values the Source spits out. This Source in the new 2022 Green Lantern Series, written by Mr...
  30. MichaelJZero

    Replying to an older content revision thread posted here about DC hierarchy - Mandrakk related

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/small-mandrakk-additions.138702/ This reply is in regards to this thread linked above and a discussion between Xearesay and and a few others in regards to Mandrakk stuff. I came late to the discussion, sorry. Been busy. Reading through this thread linked above...
  31. MichaelJZero

    The Presence Tier 0 Remake

    I realize a lot of users dislike me, like a lot, but you should listen to what I have to say on the religious topics and parallels. I have over 20 years of dedicated study on world religions. I've been trying to show people for years that Morrison told us that the Overvoid is the Keter of the...
  32. MichaelJZero

    Cosmic Armor Superman vs SCP-3812

    I just wanted to shoutout here what the Armor really is with the scans to prove it. The Armor is what infected the Overvoid, the Armor is all things with a story. The Overvoid defines this Flaw as everything the Overvoid is not. Flaw = everything Overvoid isn't A Flaw that "is" everything...
  33. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    I am not on the side of terrible ethics that praises and supports users even after they get caught lying and censoring the full conversation they had with an author. I caught this user in the act lying about this, but you said nothing. The conversation that was censored by him was used to...
  34. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    You just spent the last few hours arguing with Xearesay that JLD is not part of Future State. In Swamp Things Future State series, it starts off confirming itself is the future of the situation after Death Metal. And JLD was ongoing during the Metal series as part of the same canon as an...
  35. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    It is very clear that this user is just trying to get this thread locked or filled with as many tangent arguments as possible, so that other readers get dissuaded from reading this thread. Let's take this one step at a time and just agree or disagree on the alterations for rating of the...
  36. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    This is correct. The comics already confirmed the Dark Multiverse contains the Otherkind in the exterior spheres that house it. I feel like any counter to this is a moot point. Anyone reading, please stop debating Deagon on this issue. He is trying to flood this thread with as much empty...
  37. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    What isn't clicking is his failure to address that he omitted the rest of the conversation from the debate community for nearly an entire year. As well as just flat out trying to censor the entire Metal Series itself telling us that the Source Wall, as soon as the heroes breeched the source...
  38. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    Here are my thoughts on this, a copy from my post elsewhere. This will be the last I speak of this, I don't want to be inflammatory, this topic specifically on the Presence always goes there so I'll back out after I provide my incite on this ahha The Presence is “a” God of DC. Not “THE” God...
  39. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    I am with you on that. Death Metal's retconning of the Source = the Presence in the finale issue was a shocker. I am not sure people even agree anymore or know what to feel over it. The Chronicler was sent from the Source and is protected by the Source, and the Source was clearly cited as the...
  40. MichaelJZero

    Upside Down Man/Great Evil Beast revisions

    We cant objectively say much about the GEB, I don't think the Data exists for what it even is now after seeing the actual conversation on that Twitter statement. At least we debunked that the answer is unknown at the very least, instead of a yes. As for The upsidedown man, he was greatly...
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