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  1. InfiniteBlack123

    Update Arceus to Tier 2-A: Multiverse level+

    I dont know Fate universe got 2A accepted even though things like Quantum Time locks exist. Idk how it scales ccc to fgo. Then lets fgo get 2A scaling. DBX and Heros should both be 2A, but feel like highest 2B tier isn't really that bad. Considering how many 2A exists.
  2. InfiniteBlack123

    Monkey King vs God of War

    Wukong has enough firepower and tankiness to solo an entire pantheon of Gods. Dude singlehandedly took out the Chinese/Taoist pantheon and required the Buddha to seal him. Immune to practically all typers of destruction. I doubt even Zeus could deal with the embodiment of Mankind's rebellious...
  3. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 78

    Yet Jiren can trancend time through sheer strength and will. According to Angelic beings who make timeline and control time like its no ones business. Toriyama has dabben in alot of shit his intent is impossible to get.
  4. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 78

    I just want Beerus to do smth
  5. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 77

    Xeno Gogeta and Xeno Vegettio is above the rest of the Xenos Gt Gogeta is above all GT cast. Super Gogeta and Super Vegettio is above most of Super cast.
  6. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 77

    So some information about the current DBH universe mission ark. https://docs.google.com/document/d/...soD-VaJSfIJpQUuWaI/mobilebasic#h.3a64j9dzow6s Xeno Gogeta has gained immunity from Mind Control and Possession. The Dark Dragon Ball can't directly counter Metchikabura's magic. But can...
  7. InfiniteBlack123

    Upgrade to those who are made of data.

    If we assume everything is a simulation then all of reality should get a bump to 2A or Low 1-C. Like 1-C Elon Musk.
  8. InfiniteBlack123

    why demigra is't 2A.

    Not really it has been Stated that history is infinite. There is actually a few more statements allowing for 2A Online Universe. By Fuu and Chronoa admitted there are multiple histories. Including ones that are completely separate. And also stated by the time patrollers that history contains...
  9. InfiniteBlack123

    Upgrade to those who are made of data.

    But they are of a lower dimension. The digital realm has far less matter and energy than a real 3/4D world.
  10. InfiniteBlack123

    DBS revisions (please read entire OP)

    By this logic anyone with space-time manipulation is Low 2-C. Show him destroying a whole space-time continuum or it doesn't hold up. When he does his temporal do over, it creates a completely new space time continuum complete with a another Zeno. And in a sense he has donse this 3 times in...
  11. InfiniteBlack123

    DBS revisions (please read entire OP)

    I would also like to add that Whis said that he was powerless to stop the destruction and Whis is a being who can casually effect space and time.
  12. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 77

    Make me want Android 21 to be canon.
  13. InfiniteBlack123

    3A Db Chou Upgrade.

    And also the Universe has 3 dimension in this case. Which is a metaphysical realm.
  14. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 77

    Cool, so what were we talking about?
  15. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 76

    Speaking of Hax I feel this game upps the ante for Haxes and resistance available for DB
  16. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 76

    Ya doubling the World is a simplified way of explaining what is happening. Its more like adding a more advanced dimension over an already advanced dimension. Like World Mission Characters look at DBH as a fictional Universe. Db Heros look at DB canon and Xenoverse as a smaller fictional...
  17. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 76

    Pretty Much Xenoverse is a borderline 2A world, Heros is above that and the World is above even that. By VsBattle standards Heros world is a tier 1 Hyperverse or Outerverse.
  18. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 76

    So what Dimensional Tier is the Heros world. Tier 2A on the account of being above the Xenoverse which is a multiverse with infinite posibilities and history. Or Tier 1 where they look at the characters where all possibilities are canon and they look at the canon continuity as fiction or myth
  19. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    Thats like saying Gold Saints are at maximum lightspeed and can't go any higher beyond lightspeed even though we know that it's not true. Ki is light based which at minimum should be lightspeed and can go even higher depending on power and ki control.
  20. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    No it wasn't, cause there is nothing stating there was air. And by science that area is the ionosphere atmost which has almost no air let alone oxygen. Well that what it was confirmed as, so I don't know. Please show proof of where it was confirmed?
  21. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    Back to the topic Ki is light according to the Author as in ki based attacks are lightbased attacks which means most abilities are at the bare minimum lightspeed.
  22. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    No it wasn't, cause there is nothing stating there was air. And by science that area is the ionosphere atmost which has almost no air let alone oxygen.
  23. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    Saiyans can survive in Space. Kid Goku climbing his powerpole to reach the moon to drop off monster carrots, who evidently can also can live in the moon. Vegeta in the episode where he destroyed that random planetary system. Baby Pan in that episode with the pilaf gang. Goku vs Beerus that...
  24. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    It also has properties of effecting space/time or other dimensions. https://youtu.be/Ol85xDEx9nk Imo Ki has properties equal to and beyond light. It can effect space/time, some special type allow it to effect souls sometimes. Strictly speaking what kind of upgrades can we talk about...
  25. InfiniteBlack123

    Confirmation that Ki in Dragon Ball is light

    This is an interview from after the Broly movie was launched and is available in Kanzenshu. Then, since there are such brutal battles playing out, please tell us some details about the fight scenes. We switched up the scenery for the fights in the second half; the magma scene in particular was...
  26. InfiniteBlack123

    Xeno Goku VS Mario

    Xenoverse characters are borderline 2A held in 2B by stubbornness of people who don't want 2A DB. It has statements and mechanics to back it up. In any case Xeno Goku wins this by being massively above baseline and having hax.
  27. InfiniteBlack123

    Dante (DMC) Regen Upgrade

    One uses demonic energy to regen cells after accepting cell damage. The other he choose to block with energy. With powers similar to royal guard.
  28. InfiniteBlack123

    Son Goku Vs Son Goku (Sun Wukong)

    Wukong is immune to destruction and physically strong as Goku. Not to mention a few hax. Also like 5 types of immortality and other magic. So OG is above parody
  29. InfiniteBlack123

    Super Dragon Ball Heroes Scaling

    Actually we don't really know about Hero Fuu's motives. Sometimes he helps sometimes he hinders.
  30. InfiniteBlack123

    Chowder vs Beerus

    She and Gaatchan defeated Toriyama multiple times. The same guy who drew the world into existence. That's greater plot power than any being has shown.
  31. InfiniteBlack123

    Super Dragon Ball Heroes Scaling

    Anime is canon to the Games, The Games are not canon to the Anime. Until they are mentioned to be so.
  32. InfiniteBlack123

    Dragon Ball Canon

    There is just 2 continuity. One in which Beerus awakes, and one in which Beerus doesn't wake. The one where Beerus awakens leads to super. The one where Beerus is still asleep leads to GT. Makes sense?
  33. InfiniteBlack123

    The Problem with the Pocket Dimension Star Feats

    So where would this put Saint Seiya character like the Titans, Gods, and High Cosmo Saints.
  34. InfiniteBlack123

    Jiren (Dragon Ball) vs Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII)

    Power in Dragon Ball come from soul and spirit. It is inherently tied to the fighter's spirit and will. This is why Jiren was weakened during the final moments in ToP and was defeated by Frieza. We know Destruction Energy destroys soul and can saw how Ssjbe Vegeta resisted it. You can't be a...
  35. InfiniteBlack123

    2-C Dragon Ball Characters

    Actual they are both the Afterlife and the Demon Realm are not within the flow of time the physical universe is in.
  36. InfiniteBlack123

    Death of the Endless vs The Numidium

    I think Umineko vs TES was done before in some other forums and it let to some "nice arguments". So lets do it!
  37. InfiniteBlack123

    Jump Force

    Ya the entire point of Seiya being a Saint is because his sister was kidnapped and he was forced to be a child soldier for a Greek War Goddess. Realize that in the actual canon, Seiya got trapped between life and death and was never able to meet up with his sister. On another side note Athena...
  38. InfiniteBlack123

    Jump Force

    Speaking of which we might be getting Saga and Aiolia. So this guy may scale to high level gold saint tier. And be able to use another dimension, galaxian explosion, Lightning Plasma or even better photon burst.
  39. InfiniteBlack123

    Death of the Endless vs The Numidium

    How powerful could Verminia potentially be? Based on the Dream.
  40. InfiniteBlack123

    Death of the Endless vs The Numidium

    More like rules never existed for Nurmidium to begin with.
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