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  1. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    My main gripe is that Occam’s razor was used as a counter here, though, prior to my response of bringing it up, and it was alluded to several times by bringing up an economical amount of assumptions being preferable or somehow more meaningful. I'm saying that it's not, and almost all premises...
  2. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    No, Occam's Razor was a statement by a friar about how it is futile to do more that which can be done with fewer. It is a philosophical razor intended for science, we are using it for fiction where explanations can be as complex and abstract as a writer wants them to be, and you have no way of...
  3. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    There literally is nothing proveable here. Falsely equivocating heat with all types of energy because of a statement from a guy who only knows about internal military and governmental documents all based on one claim you ultimately cannot prove is something that should not be added to a profile...
  4. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    I'd assume we just need a few feats calculated and some justifications changed, I am just arguing that I don’t think the Crimson Countess feat is usable for several varying reasons and I don't think it should be a possibly tier either. After that, I think everyone else can handle it since to me...
  5. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    I am against it even having a possibly rating because I do not think there is even a possibility that the wiki should index. Assuming that a Supe being superior (i.e. the strongest, or bred to be the best, as the Legend says) does not mean that something that involves heat is weaker than...
  6. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    What her dying from gunfire proves is that physicals =/= powers. But because of that, then the only means of comparing characters like Homelander to her is statements. Those statements do not refer to him or the Seven as being objectively stronger in every way. Here is an example. In Devilman...
  7. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    Still thumbs down on the Crimson Countess, we know superpowers can exceed the physicals of the characters. For example, the G-Whiz/Pre-Whiz kids when they were children physically but had superpowers such as acid capable of melting walls, the G-Men had that member who used her own power to melt...
  8. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    yeah the dam thing is the big one i feel like i went through some mandela effect stuff because i thought i remembered modern grenades being higher but thats only things meant to demolish buildings, although i wouldn't say it is fair to claim that because Billy and MM experienced burns that...
  9. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys Revisions

    I do not have much time but I do not agree with scaling anyone to the Crimson Countess Also worth noting Stormfront is roughly Seven tier and the Boys definitely scale to him, and also MM takes a grenade directly to the face (he did die afterward but that is because Billy suffocated him...
  10. HeeHomeboyMokey

    DC Comics AP revision (Why certain feats literally can't ever be used, honestly probably closer to a rant)

    actual sophistry and anyone supporting this is dishonest
  11. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Speed Removal for Ultron-Sigma

    not really nah, it does seem to take less than a second though, although from the Karman line in one second i can only get Mach 291
  12. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Speed Removal for Ultron-Sigma

    Best I know is Hulk's Gamma Crush from previous games since they are all canonically one Marvel earth. I have seen that feat get MHS+ but it would need to be calced properly probably. There may be other feats since I have not played many of Capcom's Marvel games.
  13. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Mega Man: Volnutt Downgrade

    I made the original thing and I'm not super certain how to reasonably proceed with scaling Energy source in every game is refractors, I think that is all I've got regarding physicals and the storm creation scaling though. One refractor can act as a fuse which will stop a volcano from erupting...
  14. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    Here's the deal: you can argue Bowser created something until you are blue in the face but it does not change the fact that the argument rests on special pleading, ignoring the original translation, cherrypicking the word "create" to only mean one thing it cannot possibly mean, using a joke from...
  15. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    still doesnt follow, at best based on the translations we have he created the monsters in the forces which is consistent with what we know id prefer speculation and attempts at using unfounded scifi nonsense stops and trying to actually defend the reason these were considered feats in the first...
  16. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    this is only one tangential point about the throwback galaxy that is being relentlessly pursued for some reason while every other point isn't. basically the argument is is that the throwback galaxy is whomp's fortress because bob-ombs comment that both mario and luigi seem familiar, and the...
  17. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    sure they do, its called game design and game mechanics the fact that the tower (or a star switch for a 64 DS example) as one example is even there (or absent, in the case of Galaxy 2) is to justify a gameplay decision, so the others being absent when they have nothing to do with the stage...
  18. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    things change between stars in mario games, including this very stage and one of the things you specifically referenced, namely the block fortress on the top of the mountain
  19. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    i pointed that out yeah, i really dont know what that original point was getting at. it was like rewriting the context to make evidence against the position into evidence for it and at that point i dont think it was even an honest debate anymore.
  20. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    its the first case ive ever seen that has no evidence whatsoever of being one, personally usually fictions that have this have a level of metaphysics or lore or, you know, an explanation about this so, again, still unfounded and ad hoc
  21. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    so we would really much rather argue that time flows massively differently here such that decades to hundreds of years (maybe more) have occurred, meanwhile years of history do not pass in the real world when Mario leaves? unfounded assumption, idk why we are trying to apply this weird ass...
  22. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    true, but as i pointed out it doesn't matter if they are secret stars, courses, in the walls, in a painting, in a toy, whatever. every single type of stage has evidence of having existed prior. unless we want to argue bowser created stages he didnt even know about on accident, somehow. the fact...
  23. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    seems like a pretty stupid plan on Bowser's part but alright but also we know all of the worlds already existed prior so no
  24. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    so like building an empire, got it
  25. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    how is this not understood to be a metaphor? It is the only thing consistent with what we know. actually while we are at it we know these worlds existed prior, even ignoring the fact that they have their own histories. 64 DS, which was used as evidence above because of something involving the...
  26. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    I would say that kind of stuff (power stars) specifically is relevant to the thread, but stuff about canonicity isn't as relevant
  27. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    for the record im not even against cosmic mario necessarily, i just do not like starry sky feats especially when like all of these have several problems with them also about that translation, we did kind of already have the information we needed to conclude that, so again tbh i dont really...
  28. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    Personally i think the mario canonicity stuff is probably better for a different thread although i think its weird that Goomboss is being used as evidence for why they are the same individual yet we are also arguing in this thread that Bowser created the character portraits showing Mario, Luigi...
  29. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    for one they didn't concede, for two anyone can make a fatuous debate continue on forever if they really want to. That's what he is saying. He also did not say he is shutting it down immediately, for that matter.
  30. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    You literally just listed the two key pieces of evidence without actually talking about their significance at all, while also making a false comparison to 1-1 references. 1-1's original stage has no dialogue whatsoever and no reference to it ever says "oh you're back" or "hmm have i seen you...
  31. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    I pointed out how the celestial objects in the stages don't even need to be real (Big Boo's Haunt), or how several stages INCLUDING a main course are a part of the natural world (Throwback Galaxy, and before we get into claiming that is not Whomp's Fortress , i'd like to point out King Whomp has...
  32. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    my main point was that we see a celestial object in one of these levels and it explicitly is not real (AND these levels, including a painting level, is not the scale we want it to be for it to be a big feat) but also if the first english screenshot is what we have for Bowser creating them, why...
  33. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Relooking at Mario's stats

    Worth bringing up that these spaces could very well be smaller than they appear to be even with stellar objects in them. Big Boo's Haunt is confirmed to be a small cage with toys inside that Mario shrinks to go inside of, and it has a moon inside it that cannot be real. Another example is...
  34. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    I applied the edits, I added a few feats from the respect thread Homelander has hyperlinked on his profile but I did not link them because they contain slurs. I also removed Homelander's loss to Yujiro since it would be a stomp now. This can be closed while the Deep and possibly other feats get...
  35. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    You're right, both planes were Boeing 767 and I missed that, but that actually makes the feat even worse since those things have shittier specs on them for the purposes of this feat. (Their max takeoff mass is half of what I got in that napkin math i did) Either way, The Boys (individually) can...
  36. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    I think whether the debate (which tbh i think is a fatuous one) keeps going or not we should focus on specifically removing tier 7 stuff. How much higher the seven tiers and other high tier supes are than The Boys could be more appropriate for a different thread, because something like the Deep...
  37. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    No, there isn't any sort of implied power hierarchy here. Imagine a hypothetical where a city has a hurricane coming but most people don't care to move, but a man with a tank invades and starts killing people. The man with the tank is not city level+ for doing that. Frankly a flying small...
  38. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    "The interpretation was that the comic was giving Storm credit for what wasn't legitimate natural disasters, but rather with his electrical based powers such a thing can be where the blame is placed after the fact." Correct, my point is that he does not create storms or whatever the profile is...
  39. HeeHomeboyMokey

    The Boys (Comic) Revisions

    (I realize The Boys show has one CRT and there is a one CRT per verse rule going but this is for the comic and not the show)a This is a sort of continuation of a thread people may have missed (I am aware this link might be dead in a week or so, but here...
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  40. HeeHomeboyMokey

    Demi-Fiend/Kagutsuchi AP Question

    I suppose it can be yeah
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