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No evidence besides the fact it was that one slash which imposed the concept of death and sliced off her wing, both that happened at the same time and weren't isolated feats. Not sure how those two are different without you giving us any elaboration why that is the case. He gets death...
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That has already been addressed in this thread. Him losing the position of Grand and then him losing Saint Graph on the level of grands were two seperate events.
It hasn't actually been clarified to just be a one-time thing that occurs when she jumps out of the water. Her losing self-control is also one of the requirements. The mats only says that it happens for a moment, and if we are going by the previous context on 50% damage that's referring to once...
It's more of the seal admonishing her because a) losing self-control & b) emerging from the sea.
Both are checked in this scenario. Going by the story only, then yeah, we might come to your conclusion. However, the material books makes this pretty clear.
Also, it does say for a moment, but...
Eresh is the only one who ever did anything because her Authority in the underworld is at its peak. Roman confirmed her Saint Graph (Õƒ║, Reiki?, lit. "Spiritual Foundation") signature rapid dilating (Þå¿Õ╝Á, bouchou?, lit. "expanding / swelling") which gave her the Corpus of God (þÑ×Òü«õ¢ô...
The evidence of her holding back is in the material books. You can scroll up in this thread to see where that was posted. It was also hinted by Mashu when Tiamat first appeared. In fact, she's not just sealing herself but also actively hurting herself by damaging 50% of her own HP every turn...
The difference is that Dysmity posted their argument, the source material and only then linked something that a moonreader from the Lairs said to further support their point.
If the problem is argument from authority, then I have seen that circulate around here in the form of "X knowledgeble...
To be honest, I'm just reciting what is stated and not much else. I don't think there's enough info to talk about herself being higher dimensional, so I avoided that point entirely and haven't opposed it. If you see my first comment, I only pointed out there are other higher dimensional...
Regarding BB? I suppose she took over the Moon Cell core while Hakuno was in deep sleep. The material book states that the timing when she took control of the far side of the moon was between the end of the fifth round and the beginning of the sixth in real time. After that Hakuno was placed in...
On the contrary, I found the counterarguments for 2A horrible, since it requires discarding of any information coming from the story and material books which contradicts the narrative. Examples of this include ignoring established plot from Extella that is heavily applied in FGO 1 & 2 in favour...
Pretty much most of my comments are about her. See my reply to Makk for reference. True form BB in CCC that merged with the core should be the humanoid figure we see walking around.
That aside, I think there's some differences between FGO BB's history and the one from CCC. Like the CCC version...
Not much of an argument rather than an analysis of the interlude. Long story short: your waifu isn't ugly and Hakuno fought with the real BB. Going by your first comment, you should agree that it doesn't make sense for BB to send off her weaker self to fight.
Easy confirmation why that wasn't a FTL feat is the fact that Mash is alive. Moving at that kind of speed is signing a death wish in the physical world of the Nasuverse unless you've got some Godly Saint Graph.
Hakuno and his loli from Strange Fake are rare exceptions. Zero would be the most accurate depiction of his mood in a normal Holy Grail war unless a certain mud boy gets summoned.
Late reply but I've been busy.
@Makk: Rin was referring to the events at the near side, while the Alter Egos are introduced after Hakuno deals with Rin and Rani, where Melt said they were just born. Read this interlude starting from 14:35 again, the original BB here divided herself because her...
My point is that the original megastructure BB isn't there anymore. After she divided herself, the five Alter Egos are born, and the BB we know is whatever's left. It's similar to Tamamo cutting off all 9 tails, and the remnant is Hakuno's fox wife.
Seems like it's just that... a retry. A...
I agree with what Makkurona said about this being the same as Tamamo's case: the original mecha BB partitioned the aspects she perceived to be ugly into the Alter Egos. She divided herself to effectively utilize her functions, but couldn't control them. That comment about giving herself a retry...
Well she is made out to be the biggest thing from every info we get on her, but I wouldn't say she's the YHWH of the Nasuverse yet. For the version of Buddhism used though? Yeah.
Pretty sure making the Moon Cell submit with one kick is a good feat seeing how high you rate that thing. Then there's Kiara talking about reaching the seat of god that Golden Face apparently already reached, and we know that from Aoko to be the Root.
I mean if you think BB is 2A because of the Moon Cell then it doesn't make sense for them to be around the same league. I rate her above both Kiara and Kama as a complete Beast. She is Kiara's patron goddess and has been syncretized with Dainichi Nyorai, the YHWH/TOAA figure of the version of...
I rate neither higher than cosmic level. Though, I'm curious where do you guys rate Golden Face? Tamamo with 9 tails made the Moon Cell reset with one kick.
@Makkurona Don't worry, that wasn't just directed to you I was speaking generally. Regarding Nero, I agree Imperial Privilege is bullshit but the game Extra does provide some explanations, like there was a lot of grinding.
@Makkurona Feel free to keep it, but don't spread any misinformation about some parts of lore being "inconsistent" and dismissing series like Extella entirely. I hear that a lot in places Youtube and it usually steams from here or comicvine. I'm fine if you don't do that.
The ones who argued against were people for 2A in the first place, there were also others besides me who disagreed. I consider knowledgeble people to be moonruners from the Lairs and you can see in the threads I linked that it's a complete 360 of what happened here. Even Mizukume and You agree...
If you want to take it up with people knowledgeable with the Nasuverse, do it in a place that's all about it. Too bad it won't stand though, and you won't get to chalk it up as one guy's misinterpretation.
The Layer is the world. SE.RA.PH is a digitally constructed world that is based on the real world, its inner environments is made up of Reality Marbles. The Moon Cell doesn't have to be an Onion, it just has to copy its worlds. Not sure what you think a layer is.
Well, it seems the staff...
I won't address everything, because copy/pasting on phone is a pain.
You seem to have misunderstood something. By the Human World, I meant the Human Order, the Universe of Awareness is the one referred in the material books to be housing the parallel and adjacent worlds. Also I meant that it...
It's less about Alaya being different than the counterforce being weakened in pruned timelines that are abandoned by Alaya. There was presence of the counterforce in Shinjuku, for example but it was just weakened.
@Paul and Makkurona: Read my comment again and the summary I linked.
This is the last time I'll repeat this point. The Moon Cell only has its parallel worlds because it observes the Earth and records every possibility in it, mainly pertaining to humanity. That is its most primary objective, and...
Dunno how to quote multiple people, so I'll just bold the quotations.
Also, the don't apply to the Mooncell. So, why are we debating this?
Either the Moon Cell also operates under the laws of the Foundation of Humanity, or it also posesses its own Tree of Time as a macrocosm based on that...