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@Versus I realize you weren't into NNT back then, but like the other topic this was already discussed extensively. We were given a seen significantly after the actual darkness energy had ended and there was a massive cloud of vapor, which Nakaba drew the exact same way as the vapor caused by...
...Why did you make a new thread when we were already discussing this in the other one?
Regardless, your first point is wrong. The Supreme Deity created the graces and gave them to Tarmiel and Sariel. Tarmiel and Sariel state that the Domain of God is "created by our graces," not by the...
@Peter
That would mean the Commandments never directly interacted with the Archangels, but they did. King and Gowther even withstood (albeit poorly) attacks from someone stronger than Tarmiel/Sariel, and they're weaker Commandment tiers.
@Demon Again, the topic of Ocean's AP was already discussed to death back when the original thread happened months ago. It was agreed that because Ocean is not just a hax power and that Tarmiel also uses it for direct attacks, it does not make sense for a casual application of it to be...
@Versus
Tarmiel and Sariel state literally that the dimension was "created by our Graces."
As for Galand, his CO form tanked Tarmiel's big Ark sphere with no damage, lifted it up, and slammed it back down on Sariel. Base form was able to tank a smaller Ark blast from Tarmiel's head and was...
@Versus
That white border is the sky. That's the horizon, where we can no longer see the ocean.
@Gargoyle
I remember Raven calced a Low 6-B feat as well
Like I said above, that's what a horizon is. Our view of the ocean ends because that's the horizon. If you still have problems with that issue the person to take it up with would be Raven.
@Versus
That's not an argument. Scan doesn't look like that because we're seeing from a completely...
@OP
If you check the actual blog post your horizon problem is completely addressed. We see out into the horizon from the cloud itself, which formed at the top of a tornado.
@Scaling concerns
All of this was addressed in the last thread already. Like, multiple times.
Yeah there's zero point in calcing that. Might be impossible to properly calc anyway since it doesn't even seem like it was a fireball-type of explosion
@Versus
The amount of time spent in the form shouldn't matter, this is an indexing wiki and a multitude of profiles (Natsu for example) have a complete set of forms despite them being around for only one fight.
I'm adding a render for his new form. Also btw, I think this should be a separate key from his 3C+Goddess key. It's a different form with a different level of power
Tbh overall power levels are pretty bullshit. We need the three stats to know specifics. But in this case in particular, 200K is so ridiculously beyond 142K that I think we can probably assume Mael is > AM Meliodas.
I agree with Sigurd about the movie. The comparison is apt because in this case a standard of evidence was set when Dragon Cry was accepted as canon. Memories of Nobody perfectly fits that standard, unless you choose to argue semantics about the exact wordings.
From what I recall, Gin said he lied to Aizen about his Bankai's speed/length, not necessarily Ichigo. This is supported by the databook confirming the Mach 500 and stuff.
@Burning
Would it still be calc stacking since Candice's lightning is confirmed to be at least lightning speed though...
That scenario is also giving Ragyo a bit of BOD, at least from what I've read on this site about her in matches. [According to various threads I've read] she will likely go the mindhax option first, as would Gowther. Except hers won't work while his will have no problem, meaning the likeliest...
Tbh that scenario doesn't change my vote at all, mainly because of Gowther's physiology. Let's say Ragyo realizes her mindhax doesn't work for some reason so she goes for the binding/piercing strategy instead. Assuming she catches Gowther and successfully binds him, she will most likely "kill"...
"Couple" is two
"Several" is more than two but not many
"Many" would therefore be four at the minimum, so the calc would assume he turns an area four times the size of Karakura to ash as the lowballed end
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