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Dominodalek

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  • Jinsama
    Hey Domino, are DBH and DBX still connected? Ive heard its not the case anymore but it could be just fake news

    Askin you cuz i trust you the most

    Eat good my friend
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    They share a cosmology.
    Jinsama
    Jinsama
    heyo domino, are you a supporter when it comes to DBH infinite timelines busting power? Mangas statement "billions of timelines" makes me doubt it.

    Ty! you are the man
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    I personally am apathetic toward the debate, however the current consensus is that Heroes has infinite timelines because Xenoverse does.
    Hello Domino, I hope I'm not bothering.

    Well, as we already have a special Ki page, ie this one:

    vsbattles.fandom.com

    Special Ki Manipulation (Dragon Ball)

    Ki (気 "Ki", lit. "Spirit"), also known as Chi/Qi, Yōki (妖気) or simply Energy (エネルギー 'enerugī'), is a famous and central power in the Dragon Ball franchise. In the Dragon Ball Heroes multiverse, Ki is expanded into many more unique, special types of Ki, used by different beings, races which is...
    vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

    I'm working in a Blog regarding on Magic/Magical energy in Dragon ball.

    I'm kind of sceptical of including Dark Magic, becouse Viet and Otta keep telling me Dark Magic comes from Dark ki.

    However, you said in a thread that things like Reality warping, Physics manip, Law Hax, etc don't come from Dark ki but "Dark Magic " and thus the Keysword wouldn't resist it?, or something like that..... Well....
    The problem is that in the Blog I linked above, it says that things like Law Hax, Physical Manipulation , Reality warping come from Dark ki, is that right?

    Btw, in one part it also says that it's like an external power source than amps Dark ki abilities (which I find it correct).
    Jinsama
    Hey Domnio,
    short question: I know it sounds absurd, but are "real worlds" really a thing in SDBH/DBH? I dont want a DBH upgrade, i just want to know out of pure curiosity.

    Thanks.
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Yes, but they only affect a handful of characters (in-universe versions of real life people) who don't have profiles.
    Braking
    Yo domino.
    i am starting to do the card ability crt for xeno vegeta.

    can i ask if i can include the abilities from the cards that includes great ape vegeta? thanks
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Great Ape abilities are inapplicable for Xeno Vegeta.
    Hello Domino, I hope I'm not bothering.

    Is actually Dark Magic ≠ Dark Ki in DBH??.

    Becouse somehow Viet thinks different, personally I think both are different.
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Dark Ki is the form of Ki native to the Demon Realm.

    Dark Magic is the umbrella term for several spells used to forcibly give someone Dark Ki from afar, and in some cases to also add additional forms of mindhax to Dark Ki's natural corruption.

    In short they are indeed two separate things.
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    God900
    Ah I see, allright thanks.
    Hey Domino, one thing.

    Don't you think it would be better if we add in all God Ki users page, except Hearts and Xeno Vegeta (who are not God Ki users but still have it), that every God Ki user can rip space and summon a meteor to attack the opponent.

    And also, Mechikabura has his Dark God Meteor, but I'm sure he also has Towa's own meteor summoing and shroom's, right?
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    I'm reluctant to give it to all God Ki users, since it isn't universal - but most DBH gods do have it, and should have it on their pages.

    I suppose at the moment he has Towa's, but Mechikabura inheriting all of Towa's abilities will be removed when the pages get revamped, so he'll only have Dark God Meteor and his own "Eternal Darkness God Meteor".
    God900
    I see, do you think we should do a little CRT to add that ability?

    And why he will lose Towa's? is becouse of Xenoverse/Heroese separtion, and which are those abilities?
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    That won't be necessary; we're currently preparing a massive revamp of the game characters, I can easily fit it in there.

    There's no real reason for Mechikabura to inherit Towa's abilities - besides the general lack of evidence that he has them, Mechikabura spent millions of years sealed away.
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    Ss3micah
    Hey Domino a moment of your time please
    I finished my second part of the separations (it covered the demon gods) and I was wondering if I could post it in the group and get your thoughts on it
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Yeah, don't bother waiting for me to be around, I'll see it when it's there.
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Alr 👍
    Nullflowerblush
    Ss3micah said:
    Domino's word holds more weight as he's one of the most highly experienced and well known intellectuals on the topic of DBH and according to him Absorption did occur and happen, which btw he does.
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    Hey Domino, is this correct—did Young Demigra actually absorb Tokitoki? Because, I didn't infer any of that from my viewing of the gameplay.
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    Nullflowerblush
    Nullflowerblush
    but to be fair, Xenoverse 1 Demigra didn't either
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    Well, we actually get to see Demigra transmute and then eat Tokitoki, and in the following battle, he states that "Tokitoki is in my hands now," and that he is "[a god] that controls all of time... and all of space...", and claims to be able to create a new history after destroying the Time Vault, something only Tokitoki would be capable of doing.

    How does this work as a rebuttal?
    Nullflowerblush said:
    Actually, I looked into it further.

    "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread - Page 337 • Kanzenshuu

    www.kanzenshuu.com www.kanzenshuu.com
    Essentially...
    • Demon God Demigra sends a mind-controlled Great Ape Gohan to 75 Million Before Age. Gohan is defeated and returned to normal.
    • The party encounters Young Demigra, who views them as a hinderance, and engages in battle. Young Demigra is defeated and flees.
    • After defeating Young Demigra, the party encounters Young Chronoa who attacks them, before realizing her mistake and asking for their help.
    • Demon God Demigra reveals himself and scolds Young Demigra for not just taking Tokitoki's power instead of experimenting with the bird.
    • Demon God Demigra, wanting to strike back, powers up Young Demigra, and they all battle, with the Time Patrol being victorious.
    • After being defeated, Demon God Demigra retreats to his original era through the wormhole he created.
    Nothing in the dialogue suggests that Young Demigra absorbed Tokitoki—if he really did absorb Tokitoki, you would think that Demon God Demigra or Chronoa would explicitly point that out. Young Demigra's appearance was also unaltered, and he was under the effects of Hyper Tension, which is just the state in which one is brimming with energy (とうき間気がみなぎっている…！), as Demon God Demigra powered him up.

    So yeah, Young Demigra never absorbed Tokitoki—also, why would Demon God Demigra just willingly give up that power to a more inexperienced version of himself that he openly chastised for making stupid decisions—meaning he does not scale to 2-B, meaning—horray! I can downgrade them to Tier 3!
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    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    I don't think we're supposed to interpret that as Demon God Demigra powering up his young self - Tokitoki was right there, it makes more sense that he was getting young Demigra to take his power. Demigra's appearance being unaltered doesn't dispute things - we can compare this to Xenoverse, where Demigra's appearance was likewise unaltered. "Hyper Tension" is just a standard boss ability, Young Demigra having it doesn't mean anything.

    Keep in mind that Demigra is trying to change his past here, he has every reason to get his younger self as strong as he can.
    Nullflowerblush
    Nullflowerblush
    Hm, that's weird. They'd all scale to Tokitoki at that point. Alright then, thanks for clarifying.
    Hello, I have a little question.

    If I recall correctly, didn't Putine create a Dragon through her Ice manipulation in the manga??
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    I believe you're thinking of Lagss, who made a dragon out of glass.
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    God900
    Ah Yeah Yeah, I tend to confuse both characters very often.

    Anyway thanks for the help.
    Braking
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    Question i used some translators and it said the card can activate freeze mode is it true?
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Yes - "Freeze Mode" here refers to Chronoa coming in to temporarily freeze the enemy in time and leave them open to attack.
    Braking
    Braking
    thanks
    Ss3micah
    Domino
    I have a new idea for another mini CTR which I'll start in a day or 2

    I'd like to run my idea by you first and see what you think
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    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Anyone can go to Hell if they have the means to get there - even in the main series there are several examples of living characters entering Hell, and Heroes has many examples of people coming in and out.

    Everyone is doing it in Heroes, there are a ton of examples of dead characters leaving Hell, whether by magical means or just breaking themselves out. Frankly, the most surprising part is that they actually bothered to give the escapees halos this time.

    We don't know that they can be in the physical world indefinitely, since it hasn't been long since they were freed - they may still be under the 24 hour time limit. (That could in fact be part of their motivation for working with Demigra, since it's well-established that demons can completely resurrect people.)
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    I see your point 🤔👏
    So I'm guessing the limited physics and law manipulation resistance won't fly then huh
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Probably not.
    Ss3micah
    Hey there Domino
    I was wondering if Chronoa in his Xenoverse can be given Shockwave Generation and Resistance to Magic (since God Ki)
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    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Shockwave yes, Magic... does she ever actually resist their magic in Heroes?
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Well since she mostly takes the supportive role rather than fighting head on it's kinda hard to find
    However it was mentioned that in Xenoverse Goku could resist magic because he had God Ki so logically it would scale
    Similarly to how God Ki grants resistance to Extrasensory Perception for all who possess it
    Also Given that She thought Demigra when he was just a wizard she more than likely had to deal with his magic more times than not

    I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about Xenoverse though cause I believe in Heroes she has in fact resisted Magic from the Demon Gods
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    However it was mentioned that in Xenoverse Goku could resist magic because he had God Ki so logically it would scale
    Similarly to how God Ki grants resistance to Extrasensory Perception for all who possess it

    I'm really just wondering if this is enough reason to give her Resistance to Magic for her Xenoverse Key since logically speaking, it adds up
    If anything it would at least give her a Likely Resistance to Magic for her Xenoverse Key

    Also another piece of information
    She happens to be well versed at recognizing magic and magic-based techniques, such as the Majin Emblem and Demigra's Magic, and is apparently a skilled and powerful magic user in her own right as she was able to counter both the Majin Emblem and even managed to dispel Demigra's Magic

    This could probably end up being a case for Magic Nullification but I'll hold of on that for now
    Also it stands to reason that in all of Xenoverse we never see Chronoa been affected by magic from anyone
    Rabbit2002
    Hi Domino
    Some questions about Heroes
    1/ Due your opinion, is scaling to include character strength and cosmology from other db games really valid? Because when examined closely with the XV stuff, they are extremely contradictory between the things they both have like the location and nature of the Scroll of eternity, the time vault and the Crack Of time. That's not even the XV2, where the contradiction really begins, to the point where I can't find anything in common except that they are "same". And those things like Shin bundokai Vague as Hell and I don't sure that is a coincidence, cameo or is there a story behind that link them together like db fighterz?
    2/ Do you have a link for feat demigra mind haxed entire timelines? I think this can help in updating Profiles later
    Vietthai96
    Can you make a blog for DBH Xeno Goku card and link it to Xeno Goku profile, i fear that other people will complain about the legitimacy of his abilities. What is your thought
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    I would be more than happy to, but I'm afraid that's an area I have no experience in.
    Vietthai96
    Vietthai96
    well that bad then, i'm very bad at this, just hope that no one going to question his abilites. Ah forgot, thank you for reply
    Ottavio_Merluzzo
    Hey. I got curious when you quoted the whole Hit thing in that DBS/DBH minor change thread. Do you have Discord or something?

    It would also help me since as far as I can tell you have a great knowledge when it comes to Dragon Ball Heroes
    SSJRyu1
    Hey man. So you seem to be up to date on DBH stuff. I never did get a chance to ask you if there are any other feats or statements I may have missed that you think would be worth mentioning for either infinite or immeasurable speed, or ones that we should focus on for an upgrade. The thread is a revision thread, but also a work in progress since new info is being found and analyzed all the time. I'm not really interested in arguing with people tbh, I'm more interested in collaborating and building off each others knowledge.
    Dominodalek
    Dominodalek
    Considering I don't support the upgrade, I'm not sure how much help I'll be. If I already had evidence for Infinite or Immeasurable speed, I would have offered them in the topics.

    There's always more to learn, so if I do find anything, I'll bring it forward.
    SSJRyu1
    SSJRyu1
    Thanks. Yeah even if it's just a supporting point it's always helpful.
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