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One-Punch Man - Damn fast ninjas

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I won't write anything long-winded. We will change this calculation.

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Damn fast ninjas

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Let this be the calculation

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One-Punch Man - Damn fast ninjas

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For these reasons
  1. The snail's speed was changed from 0.013 m/s to 0.00275 m/s.
  2. We should change Flashy's speed endpoint to High End considering Flame and Wind aren't even close to him yet.
Results of change
  • Flame and Wind from Sub-Relativistic to Sub-Relativistic+
  • Flashy returns to FTL again
 
I don't agree with using the high end of that calc.

There isn't anything supporting the assumption that Flashy Flash didn't start moving until Hellfire Flame was 12 centimerers away from him. The 509 px line doesn't lead to anything specific and that line is drawn for a panel from after Flashy Flash had started his own movement.
 
It doesn't look like Flame and Wind are moving close enough to Flashy. Maybe Flashy could turn around and tap his head once before they reach him. I don't think using the calculated distance will be an issue
 
I disagree with the high end. There is 0 evidence to support the suggestion that Flashy only started moving when they were 12cm away and he appears to already be turning around in the panel used to calculate their distance.
Screenshot-2024-07-27-15-37-53-876-com-imgur-mobile-edit.jpg


Also the distance Flashy traveled should be re-checked as well. Flashy doesn't do a full 180° turn, he only turns by 90° at best.

He also doesn't do a roundhouse kick but instead just Chun Li style foot-jabs where he bends his knee and extends it again. Now I'm not 100% sure I understand the distance measurement but it seems to work on the assumption he does a full 90° roundhouse kick which is simply wrong
 
DavidTPPM said:
I disagree with the high end. There is 0 evidence to support the suggestion that Flashy only started moving when they were 12cm away and he appears to already be turning around in the panel used to calculate their distance.
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The assumption does not say that Flashy started moving when Flame and Wind were 12 cm away from him, but rather that the calculation assumes that Flashy finished moving before Flame and Wind reached him.
DavidTPPM said:
Also the distance Flashy traveled should be re-checked as well. Flashy doesn't do a full 180° turn, he only turns by 90° at best.
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A back turn is a movement of at least 180 degrees, as shown in this figure and this video.
DavidTPPM said:
He also doesn't do a roundhouse kick but instead just Chun Li style foot-jabs where he bends his knee and extends it again. Now I'm not 100% sure I understand the distance measurement but it seems to work on the assumption he does a full 90° roundhouse kick which is simply wrong
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I'm not sure about that either, but assuming that the first kick was a straight leg to stop Flame and Wind's movement, I think that's probably correct.
 
Actually I'm not fully certain of the 180 degree movement anymore, taking a closer look they look like they're more towards Flashy Flash's right side.

90 degrees could be more accurate. For it to be 180 degrees, shouldn't FF be facing the camera dead on? It's not just a head tilt either since he's looking straight ahead.

High-End distance is still alright to me.

The Low-End makes no sense since it'd mean they reached FF's position, in the same time as he turns and kicks. Which is incorrect, because FF intercepted them before that. He would've had to miss and they would be right next to him, side by side for that to work. But they didn't manage to cross that 0.97 meters, they got stopped.

The High-End isn't even a High-End to me, it's the only acceptable end.

HF and GW are both 0.97 meters away. We see FF turn and launch his kicks, from the distance provided they only managed to move 0.12 meters at most.

No one is saying FF only moved when they were 0.12 meters away from him. He moved his distance in the same timeframe it took for them to move 0.12 meters, because that's how close they managed to reach him before getting stopped dead by his kicks.
 
I don't agree with using the 12 cm figure because it assumes that Flashy Flash's head is in the same position that it was in the earlier panel. If you look at Flashy Flashy's position here, his body is oriented so that he is leaning away from them.
 
Damage3245 said:
I don't agree with using the 12 cm figure because it assumes that Flashy Flash's head is in the same position that it was in the earlier panel. If you look at Flashy Flashy's position here, his body is oriented so that he is leaning away from them.
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What are you on about? It does not assume that, can you explain why you believe that?

FF is kicking towards them, the direction his head is the same direction is legs are going.

The distance between FF and the ninjas is 0.97 meters. We see him kicking towards them and we don't see them on panel, which means their further away off panel.

His distance from his head to the edge of the panel is 0.85 meters, meaning they're at the most 0.12 meters away. Though it could be lower.

His head position is irrelevant, if he moved that just increases the results even more as he'd be closer. Not unless you mean he moved backwards through the floor?

I don't understand your point here.
 
Shadow_x007x said:
The assumption does not say that Flashy started moving when Flame and Wind were 12 cm away from him, but rather that the calculation assumes that Flashy finished moving before Flame and Wind reached him.
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As far as I understand, the calc assumes he starts moving when they're 12cm away.
Shadow_x007x said:
A back turn is a movement of at least 180 degrees, as shown in this figure and this video.
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No it's not. Flashy did this
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That's a 90° turn.
Shadow_x007x said:
I'm not sure about that either, but assuming that the first kick was a straight leg to stop Flame and Wind's movement, I think that's probably correct.
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It's not. We see he's just bending his knee and not doing full round kicks.
Screenshot-2024-07-27-17-07-50-592-com-imgur-mobile-edit.jpg

Basically, the calc assumes he's doing this movement
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When he's actually doing this
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And that's a pretty major difference in distance traveled
 
Kachon123 said:
For the distance Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind moved in the time it took for Flashy Flash to kick, why don't we just use the initial 0.96 meters and subtract it by the length of Flashy's legs?
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This would be better in all honesty.
 
TheRustyOne said:
What are you on about? It does not assume that, can you explain why you believe that?

FF is kicking towards them, the direction his head is the same direction is legs are going.

The distance between FF and the ninjas is 0.97 meters. We see him kicking towards them and we don't see them on panel, which means their further away off panel.
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We only see him AFTER the kick has already been launched and we don't see them on screen so we can't say whether they got hit.
An important detail is this.
Screenshot-2024-07-27-17-14-51-923-com-imgur-mobile-edit.jpg

They flied at Flashy face first and we see they're tilted backwards meaning Flashys kick moved them back while keeping them in his range.
What this means is that their position during or after the kicks does not determine how far they got as Flashy pushed them backwards.

In other words, they easily could have traveled almost the entire distance and just gotten pushed backwards. This especially makes sense given how your body tilts backwards during a high kick
depositphotos_55786267-stock-illustration-karate-taekwondo-high-kick-yoko.jpg

Meaning Flashys upper body would actually be moving AWAY from them and his leg would be pushing them away. So saying they could have only moved 12 centimeters is just wrong
 
DavidTPPM said:
We only see him AFTER the kick has already been launched and we don't see them on screen so we can't say whether they got hit.
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What are you on about? No reason to assuming FF is kicking empty air without proof.

Also that only means FF is even faster, that just increases the results since they moved even less distance.

Your kind of speaking nonsense, though you're right on the degrees turn.

They can't travel the full 0.97 m distance and FF can't go further away, he's been smashed into a wall. Not unless he digs through rocks.
 
TheRustyOne said:
What are you on about? It does not assume that, can you explain why you believe that?

FF is kicking towards them, the direction his head is the same direction is legs are going.

The distance between FF and the ninjas is 0.97 meters. We see him kicking towards them and we don't see them on panel, which means their further away off panel.

His distance from his head to the edge of the panel is 0.85 meters, meaning they're at the most 0.12 meters away. Though it could be lower.

His head position is irrelevant, if he moved that just increases the results even more as he'd be closer. Not unless you mean he moved backwards through the floor?

I don't understand your point here.
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The position of his head is not irrelevant as the initial distance is found between the two ninjas and Flashy Flash's head here, no?

This is Flashy Flash initially, rising up from face-planting into the ground.

A simple turn isn't all he's doing to get from that to this. He wasn't standing on one leg initially; his body wasn't leaning away from them. As he rose up and turned, he has to lean his body back so that his leg can raise up and kick out. And if he's leaning back away from them, then his head ends up further away from them than where he started.
 
Kachon123 said:
For the distance Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind moved in the time it took for Flashy Flash to kick, why don't we just use the initial 0.96 meters and subtract it by the length of Flashy's legs?
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Not entire legs since Flashy bends them to kick while pulling them towards his body which is moving away from the target.
Screenshot-2024-07-27-17-07-50-592-com-imgur-mobile-edit.jpg

The most accurate option would be to take the distance and subtract the length of Flashy's legs behind knees. It wouldn't be perfect as it wouldn't take into account Flashy tilting away but it's far more accurate than just guessing
 
Nah, I think I'm done here. You all are just scrambling my brain, should've known nothing good comes out of OPM at all.

Do whatever you want, get another calc group member to take a look at this because I can't take this headache. I'm trying to lower my stress and this isn't good for me.

This is my last comment on this thread.
 
TheRustyOne said:
What are you on about? No reason to assuming FF is kicking empty air without proof.
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I'm not saying he's kicking air…?
TheRustyOne said:
Also that only means FF is even faster, that just increases the results since they moved even less distance.
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Literally the opposite…? I'm saying they could have moved almost the entire distance and Flashys kick just pushed them back.
TheRustyOne said:
Your kind of speaking nonsense
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Nah you just don't understand what I'm saying.
TheRustyOne said:
They can't travel the full 0.97 m distance
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Which is why I said almost the entire distance. Point is we don't know and all we're doing here is guessing.
TheRustyOne said:
and FF can't go further away, he's been smashed into a wall. Not unless he digs through rocks.
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There's the hole where he was smashed into but idrc, it doesn't really matter
 
Okay, sorry if my earlier comments were unclear - I didn't intend to stress you out.
 
DavidTPPM said:
As far as I understand, the calc assumes he starts moving when they're 12cm away.
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That shows you are completely wrong. Subtracting the distance between Flame and Flashy in this image by the distance we cannot see Flame in this image gives us the distance from the point in this image to where Flashy's leg kicks in this image. The distance Flame travels is 12 cm, so this is correct.
TheRustyOne said:
Actually I'm not fully certain of the 180 degree movement anymore, taking a closer look they look like they're more towards Flashy Flash's right side.

90 degrees could be more accurate. For it to be 180 degrees, shouldn't FF be facing the camera dead on? It's not just a head tilt either since he's looking straight ahead.
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I can change it to 90 degrees as DavidTPPM suggested.
 
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