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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

Nierre said:
don't blame them.
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Look, I get some people don't like Natsu. I mean I have other characters some people don't like either. But that is not an excuse to downplay or ignore feats. It just shows not only bias, but also ignoring all context of what happened in the story.

Those people who say that Erza or Gildarts is stronger clearly doesn't read what happened or just comes up with an excuse because of bias reasons.
 
when I said I don't blame them i meant i dont blame them for diskiling natsu, not for downplaying feats. I even liked the original comment 🗿
 
Nierre said:
when I said I don't blame them i meant i dont blame them for diskiling natsu, not for downplaying feats. I even liked the original comment 🗿
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I know, but there was someone who commented how some people still says Erza is still stronger, followed by someone saying no one likes Natsu. But that is not a reason to downplay Natsu.
 
PhoenixFirestorm said:
Look, I get some people don't like Natsu. I mean I have other characters some people don't like either. But that is not an excuse to downplay or ignore feats. It just shows not only bias, but also ignoring all context of what happened in the story.

Those people who say that Erza or Gildarts is stronger clearly doesn't read what happened or just comes up with an excuse because of bias reasons.
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You also seem to be ignoring context to some extent. Base Natsu isn't stronger than the likes of gildarts, dragon force Natsu, however is stronger.

There's also the fact that Natsu rarely uses dragon force even when there is no downside to doing so.
 
Delta3000 said:
You also seem to be ignoring context to some extent. Base Natsu isn't stronger than the likes of gildarts, dragon force Natsu, however is stronger.

There's also the fact that Natsu rarely uses dragon force even when there is no downside to doing so.
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Base form Natsu intercepted Dragon Form Viernes. Yes, this was before Wendy enchanted him.

Doesn’t matter if we don't see it as much. What matters is that he can at least use Dragon Force itself without the need to consume stuff. Which he has shown 3 times throughout the series.
 
Nierre said:
natsu is a boring ass character, that should not be a hot take
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He’s just such a nothing ball, I like him, definitely top 8 fairy tail characters for me and all but he doesn’t really have any substance in comparison to his peers, it’s the main reason why I never understood why people were so adamant on him being the mc instead of Lucy because if anything that’s a point against the series, than for it since she has more depth.
 
I don't dislike him, but there's nothing in particular that I like about him. Especially since for me, the defeat of Zeref felt like a completion of his character and everything else (100yq) is just filler extra that doesn't really do anything for me, for ANY of the characters.
 
In every arc he does nothing but act stupid and say stupid stuff, then at the end of the arc they give him the final boss to fight and then he gets beat up for a little while and then gets a power up out of nowhere because of how much he cares about his guild or his friends or whatever.
 
Nierre said:
the fact that u mentioned something completely irrelevant instead of engaging at the topic proves to me that my opinion is right. not engaging in ur corny whataboutism lol
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The fact you think I need to seriously engage in a L opinion proves you don't know what an opinion is
 
Natsu being a nothing burger of a character isn’t an L take, it’s an extremely common one, and usually one of the main reasons people don’t read the manga/watch the show.

He’s also by far the least developed out of Mashima’s main characters as well, so it’s not even a shot against him as an author, it just is
 
Alsotime said:
Natsu being a nothing burger of a character isn’t an L take, it’s an extremely common one, and usually one of the main reasons people don’t read the manga/watch the show.

He’s also by far the least developed out of Mashima’s main characters as well, so it’s not even a shot against him as an author, it just is
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What makes Natsu a "nothing burger" of a character exactly?
 
Alsotime said:
Natsu being a nothing burger of a character isn’t an L take, it’s an extremely common one, and usually one of the main reasons people don’t read the manga/watch the show.

He’s also by far the least developed out of Mashima’s main characters as well, so it’s not even a shot against him as an author, it just is
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Being a common take isn't equivalent to being a good one. We call that sheep mentality
 
My thing with Natsu is I feel like he hasn't changed. All I know is he's always itchin for a fight. I put his character on same level as Goku. I feel like they don't really go through a development lol
 
I've talked before with some friends about some super underappreciated development he goes through following the second timeskip. We even see the effects of this concluded development in 100YQ. In addition, there's also Gildarts's lesson to Natsu, which people seem to believe went nowhere - something I don't necessarily believe given some things later on. Now, I'm not saying you must see Natsu as this paragon for all shonen protags to follow, now do you even have to agree with me to begin with, but I personally don't agree with the assessments of Natsu's character.
 
I mean you would have to explain it because from what I know, he's just a tough guy that won't back down from a fight. And he doesn't seem remotely interested in romance. The latter hasn't changed either. Other than someone who isn't afraid of a fight and will protect his friends who is Natsu really. Because that's who he always was. I'm not even saying that's bad, because I like combat hungry characters. I only like Natsu when he turns me up. He acts like a gag sometimes, he likes fighting, he'll protect his friends. The only way I can explain natsu
 
This isn't even just a Natsu problem i don't think anybody in fairy tail goes through much development but Lucy, Laxus, Jellal, Gajeel. Probably some more I'm missing
 
Natsu is fine but he's not someone that really gets the ball going as a character and even as someone simple like Goku

He's just fine nothing really special
 
@Twisted_Little_Raven I'd be inclined to disagree. Several characters not listed go through notable development like Natsu (for reasons I already mentioned), Gray, Erza, Wendy, Sting, Minerva, Juvia, etc.

I'm not so naïve as to not recognize that even now, Fairy Tail is considered not good with a shallow cast by a number of people. That doesn't mean I agree with the sentiment, though.
 
CloverDragon03 said:
@Twisted_Little_Raven I'd be inclined to disagree. Several characters not listed go through notable development like Natsu (for reasons I already mentioned), Gray, Erza, Wendy, Sting, Minerva, Juvia, etc.
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Gray I'm not sure. Erza I'm not sure (even though is my favorite nowadays), Wendy sure, Minerva yes but it's also the classic villian to good guy automatic development. She has automatic development just because she used to be a villain those ppl are by default. Juvia I agree but at the same time not. From when shes first appeared to now big difference. But I think Gray is the only one that matters to her but I think recently something happened that made me think she actually cares about others too which is something I was waiting for.
 
Bro I started a war on accident, I wasn't even talking about character writing I was talking about scaling one dumbass just used it as a way to express his distaste for natsu

Also no goku slander or I swear to god
 
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