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The purpose of this thread is to analyze the timeframe used in this calc for Albion II.
The calc uses a timeframe derived from the anime, claiming that the entire feat happened in a single to a timeframe of 1/24 seconds can be used to find the kinetic energy of the hilltop being launched into the air.
The clip used can be found here, at around 5:32.
Using the WatchFrameByFrame website, we can see how the frames were used to find this timeframe from frame 8312 to 8313.
However this seems like a case of cherrypicking frames to me; the difference in one frame to the other up above is a sudden cut from one perspective (the Albion swinging its arm) to another perspective (the hill being already up in the air). It's not a case of us watching a continuous sequence of the hill being at Point A in frame 1 and Point B in frame 2.
Rule 4 of our Cinematic Time page states this:
If we look at the subsequent frames of the clip, such as between frames 8321 and 8341:
This is a difference of twenty frames between the two shots and the hilltop has barely moved. What happened to all of the momentum or kinetic energy that the hilltop should have if we assume it moved all of the initial distance in only a single frame?
My proposal is that instead of using 1/24th of a second by focusing on a very specific frame of the feat and ignoring the rest of the clip, we just assume that the feat (which did take place quickly and in a single panel in the manga) be assumed as being 1 second long.
The calc uses a timeframe derived from the anime, claiming that the entire feat happened in a single to a timeframe of 1/24 seconds can be used to find the kinetic energy of the hilltop being launched into the air.
The clip used can be found here, at around 5:32.
Using the WatchFrameByFrame website, we can see how the frames were used to find this timeframe from frame 8312 to 8313.
However this seems like a case of cherrypicking frames to me; the difference in one frame to the other up above is a sudden cut from one perspective (the Albion swinging its arm) to another perspective (the hill being already up in the air). It's not a case of us watching a continuous sequence of the hill being at Point A in frame 1 and Point B in frame 2.
Rule 4 of our Cinematic Time page states this:
- Cinematic time should not be used if the time-frame the event of interest happens in occurs during a time-frame that is suggested to be sped up in any way and a cut is involved.
If we look at the subsequent frames of the clip, such as between frames 8321 and 8341:
This is a difference of twenty frames between the two shots and the hilltop has barely moved. What happened to all of the momentum or kinetic energy that the hilltop should have if we assume it moved all of the initial distance in only a single frame?
My proposal is that instead of using 1/24th of a second by focusing on a very specific frame of the feat and ignoring the rest of the clip, we just assume that the feat (which did take place quickly and in a single panel in the manga) be assumed as being 1 second long.
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