Honkai Impact 3rd - Infinite Speed Arguments (v2)

[Mbpoops]

Because currently there is a discrepancy since another active thread has a thread mod that voted for Zephyros physicals to scale back to it via UES.

And welt

Zephyro is 3-B with 2-A. Not 3-A


Is Infinite Speed in general fine if the other crt concludes with him scaling back to the attack in general while this crt for now concludes that its attack speed to match the current AP?

And welt

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Because currently there is a discrepancy since another active thread has a thread mod that voted for Zephyros physicals to scale back to it via UES.

If the CRT scaling his physicals to his White Hole gets accepted, that's fine.

Zephyro is 3-B with 2-A. Not 3-A

Oh, my bad.

Is Infinite Speed in general fine if the other crt concludes with him scaling back to the attack in general while this crt for now concludes that its attack speed to match the current AP?

Yeah, Infinite Attack Speed for now, and if that other CRT you mentioned gets accepted, you can change the rest.

Though you will have to tell the Thread Mod of that CRT that this CRT will be granting Infinite Speed, since it's something new.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Though you will have to tell the Thread Mod of that CRT that this CRT will be granting Infinite Speed, since it's something new.

The thread mod is Reiner and he’s gone

And welt

And welt

Insane Welt sneak

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

The thread mod is Reiner and he’s gone

Oh well, votes from before a staff member retires still count. But if the CRT is updated, and then staff need to reinforce their vote, but since he's not a staff member anymore, he can't really do that.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Oh well, votes from before a staff member retires still count. But if the CRT is updated, and then staff need to reinforce their vote, but since he's not a staff member anymore, he can't really do that.

Well ig thats gonna need another crt to deal with then.

Do you have a final vote for feat 2 and 3 btw based off of the new information sent btw

 

[Mbpoops]

Oh well, votes from before a staff member retires still count. But if the CRT is updated, and then staff need to reinforce their vote, but since he's not a staff member anymore, he can't really do that.

Reiner actually said to teilight to remove all his votes this was discussed in rvr i think

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Reiner actually said to teilight to remove all his votes this was discussed in rvr i think

He only said it for that specific thread from @Azertyhuuh because he wasn't sure anymore from the way that crt progressed innit

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Bumping this as it's related to the 2nd point.


Bumping this as it's related to the 3rd point.

Bumping this as it also relates to the 3rd point.

bump for response

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Do you have a final vote for feat 2 and 3 btw based off of the new information sent btw

I still believe 2 is Range & High 3-A AP, and 3 is Infinite LS & Infinite Speed via Throwing. I'm still not on board with the whole catching argument.

4 being Infinite Attack Speed is fine though.

Plunging what you posted doesn't really change my opinions.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

I still believe 2 is Range & High 3-A AP, and 3 is Infinite LS & Infinite Speed via Throwing. I'm still not on board with the whole catching argument.

Low 1-C AP but it's pretty irrelevant here.

Plunging what you posted doesn't really change my opinions.

It's literally just people reacting to people who'd scale to the infinite speed via throwing. It just makes the specificity redundant and go back to infinite speed for the cast, but alright.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

It's literally just people reacting to people who'd scale to the infinite speed via throwing. It just makes the specificity redundant and go back to infinite speed for the cast, but alright.

We don't treat everything an Immeasurable LS Character throws as Infinite Speed or Immeasurable Speed; scaling would get silly. This is a very specific case, because they threw something out of a singularity.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

We don't treat everything an Immeasurable LS Character throws as Infinite Speed or Immeasurable Speed; scaling would get silly. This is a very specific case, because they threw something out of a singularity.

Yes, but they upscale the infinite speed via throwing character, so wouldn't they also be infinite speed via throwing?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yes, but they upscale the infinite speed via throwing character, so wouldn't they also be infinite speed via throwing?

Sure, but it still wouldn't mean they were throwing those pillars at Infinite Speed.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Sure, but it still wouldn't mean they were throwing those pillars at Infinite Speed.

They are a Herrscher, envoys of the verse's god to kill humanity and all that belong to it, with only utter hatred and contempt towards it. This particular Herrscher captures people with negative emotions and enslaves them, even trying the same thing to Kiana before she broke out in this very cutscene.

This Herrscher, especially, has the reason to use all of its power against a mortal threat, and is even stronger than that infinite speed via throwing feat (at least in scaling as it has immeasurable).

This is no friendly spar - why would they not throw those pillars at infinite speeds?

 

[Mbpoops]

They are a Herrscher, envoys of the verse's god to kill humanity and all that belong to it, with only utter hatred and contempt towards it. This particular Herrscher captures people with negative emotions and enslaves them, even trying the same thing to Kiana before she broke out in this very cutscene.

This Herrscher, especially, has the reason to use all of its power against a mortal threat, and is even stronger than that infinite speed via throwing feat (at least in scaling as it has immeasurable).

This is no friendly spar - why would they not throw those pillars at infinite speeds?

Same reason why nanook or any destruction mf for that matter doesnt use the 1 layer EE nuke that he got from irontomb

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Because the pillars aren't moving at infinite speed...

I swear this is why I hate chainscaling. If you guys want to scale a character throwing a pillar, into everyone having Infinite Speed in every category because of UES, be my guest.

I personally avoid evaluating those kinds of CRTs.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Because the pillars aren't moving at infinite speed...

I swear this is why I hate chainscaling. If you guys want to scale a character throwing a pillar, into everyone having Infinite Speed in every category because of UES, be my guest.

I personally avoid evaluating those kinds of CRTs.

We could go into it, go through the whole rigamarole of 'its slowed down for the viewer' but I don't fancy that either.

Thank you for responding and looking through the CRT, I will count your vote.

(I am a firm advocate of only chainscaling upwards, chainscaling backwards via infinities sucks ass ik)

 

[EddisherSound]

@Godernet
You have evaluated CRTs for the verse before, your opinion here would be appreciated
@Random-Helper323, @SomebodyData, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, sorry for the ping, your evaluation here would be appreciated

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Bump

 

[SuperNova55555]

Because the pillars aren't moving at infinite speed...

I swear this is why I hate chainscaling. If you guys want to scale a character throwing a pillar, into everyone having Infinite Speed in every category because of UES, be my guest.

I personally avoid evaluating those kinds of CRTs.

Honestly this isn’t even half as bad as before I nuked all the Immeasurable Speed bs

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Honestly this isn’t even half as bad as before I nuked all the Immeasurable Speed bs

Are you talking about Lygus

 

[SuperNova55555]

Are you talking about Lygus

Brother every character had Immeasurable because Himeko dodged a Sirin lance. Devious stuff

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Brother every character had Immeasurable because Himeko dodged a Sirin lance. Devious stuff

Speed: Immeasurable (Is capable of processing two timelines simultaneously,[11] and each timeline is a different space-time continuum.[5] The miniature universe and the actual universe[11] are two different space-time continuums,[90][28][10][39] which is further reinforced when it is confirmed that Amphoreus is a simulated realm created by the Scepter δ-me13.[7][91] Scepters are capable of secluding themselves in concave spaces and deliberately warp their internal time flow.[92] Lygus is one of Zandar One Kuwabara's nine fragments,[11] whose existence transcends time, as his "Thought Fragments" exists across all time[13]

 

[SuperNova55555]

Speed: Immeasurable (Is capable of processing two timelines simultaneously,[11] and each timeline is a different space-time continuum.[5] The miniature universe and the actual universe[11] are two different space-time continuums,[90][28][10][39] which is further reinforced when it is confirmed that Amphoreus is a simulated realm created by the Scepter δ-me13.[7][91] Scepters are capable of secluding themselves in concave spaces and deliberately warp their internal time flow.[92] Lygus is one of Zandar One Kuwabara's nine fragments,[11] whose existence transcends time, as his "Thought Fragments" exists across all time[13]

Find it funny how the only reason this was ever added was because Immeasurable Speed was already accepted so they didn’t need a CRT for new justification

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump