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NEVERNESS TO EVERNESS DISCUSSION THREAD

Darkmon_cns said:
I'll wait on physiology I'm not too familiar for that kind of page. I was thinking of mc sense most things would scale to or from them.
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Wait i forgot to ask, what's our mc main ability? I didn't play the game for about 1 week (too busy rn)
 
DenzOnigiri said:
Wait i forgot to ask, what's our mc main ability? I didn't play the game for about 1 week (too busy rn)
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Sensing an anomoly's presence, and talking to them. Sensing them seem to be her esper ablity. She seemingly feels the same thing the index (what the classes are based on) senses, the curvature of reality deviating from the norm
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Sensing an anomoly's presence, and talking to them. Sensing them seem to be her esper ablity. She seemingly feels the same thing the index (what the classes are based on) senses, the curvature of reality deviating from the norm
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enhanced sense should be fine ig. also idk what ability gives when talking to them
 
So I finished the new quest.

MC should have resistance to dream manipulation via not having any dreams and being unaffected by the rules of the Corridor of Echoes.

MC should probably also gain reality manipulation and enhanced senses via the Kaleidoscope (it can see the true essence of things and project overlap them with the normal reality we perceive). (And no it's not only dream manipulation because we can also use the Kaleidoscope outside of dreams)

And maybe limited dimensional travel because normally only those who have escapist tendences can enter the Corridor of Echoes.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Small scaling issue that may come up dimensional traveler a class 4 anomaly, created a class 5 anomaly.
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I don't think it's an issue because they don't know for sure that the dimension traveller crated the Helm it's origin is unknown. They only know that it appeared when the Corridor of Echoes was created so it probably just spawned in own it's own will rather then being created by the dimension traveller
 
Monosc said:
I don't think it's an issue because they don't know for sure that the dimension traveller crated the Helm it's origin is unknown. They only know that it appeared when the Corridor of Echoes was created so it probably just spawned in own it's own will rather then being created by the dimension traveller
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Uaaa... can't see that as anything but hard cope. The file is just being open to multiple positivity because the in universe source it's based on dosen't have all the answers. It's listed as a derivative anomaly as well which is supposed to mean it's an anomaly made by another. It's not really an issue tho it's just more evidence there is a separation between the manifestation of a anomoly and the true anomoly, it's also evidence yhe true anomoly makes the realms, sense it created a class 5 anomoly well the current manafedtion was class 4.

Monosc said:
So I finished the new quest.

MC should have resistance to dream manipulation via not having any dreams and being unaffected by the rules of the Corridor of Echoes.

MC should probably also gain reality manipulation and enhanced senses via the Kaleidoscope (it can see the true essence of things and project overlap them with the normal reality we perceive). (And no it's not only dream manipulation because we can also use the Kaleidoscope outside of dreams)

And maybe limited dimensional travel because normally only those who have escapist tendences can enter the Corridor of Echoes.
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1 it's either dream manipulation or law manipulation, sense she's unaffected by the rules tho it's possible the rules don't apply to her because she dosen't remember the past she's running from

2 dose the kaleodoscope...work ever outside the dream room tho? Isn't it's possible it just works like a kaleidoscope outside? The MC should have some form of illusion dispell or resistance anyway sense she made the illusions the boss made all vanish at one point

3 I have to disagree, the ending when we exit implies we probably do fulfill the entry requirements somehow we just don't remember how. Like I said before not remembering what were running from or what life was like before that is likly what prevented the rules from applying to her, can't make a dream based on your past if noone knows what that is.
 
DenzOnigiri said:
Can you explain why? I'm not quite familiar with game. (yes im still a beginner)
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Enhanced senses refer to an enhancement of a standard sense/sensory orgna such as sight, smell, hearing. While extrasensory perception doesn't rely on standard sense or sensory organ and is more like an extra 6th sense.
 
Automatic translation: all anomolys can communicate with one another dispite how that anomoly communicates.
 
Monosc said:
Enhanced senses refer to an enhancement of a standard sense/sensory orgna such as sight, smell, hearing. While extrasensory perception doesn't rely on standard sense or sensory organ and is more like an extra 6th sense.
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I mean what's nexus👁️
 
Darkmon_cns said:
2 dose the kaleodoscope...work ever outside the dream room tho? Isn't it's possible it just works like a kaleidoscope outside?
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Well the item description doesn't say that it is limited to dreams and it seems to be an object that replicates Daffodills ability which can be used in real space.


Darkmon_cns said:
The MC should have some form of illusion dispell or resistance anyway sense she made the illusions the boss made all vanish at one point
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Probably
Darkmon_cns said:
3 I have to disagree, the ending when we exit implies we probably do fulfill the entry requirements somehow we just don't remember how.
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But if a person doesn't remember they wouldn't fullfill the entry conditions since a person must want to actively escape from reality to gain access.
 
Monosc said:
Well the item description doesn't say that it is limited to dreams and it seems to be an object that replicates Daffodills ability which can be used in real space.



Probably

But if a person doesn't remember they wouldn't fullfill the entry conditions since a person must want to actively escape from reality to gain access.
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That's interesting tho another case that I'm pretty certain should be limited to the anomolys space and dosen't just say it is is the blue prints from the platforming blue print commission that do some heavy spatial warping as a movement option. I'm not completely sure the ablitys would even make sense if used in real space sense there so based on the confines of the anolious realm, which makes me think it dosen't really need to say it only works in the area you find it if that's apparent, also I thought it dispelled illusions?

Well the fact the MC wondered that question implies it isn't necessary for you to know your doing that. Would removing your own memories to escape your past not be seeking out escapism? She just dosen't know it. Also she didn't enter of her own will and was broight in via the boat that seems to bring everyone in, so seemingly it happened by the anomoly's power even if something went wrong not the MC's
 
Darkmon_cns said:
That's interesting tho another case that I'm pretty certain should be limited to the anomolys space and dosen't just say it is is the blue prints from the platforming blue print commission that do some heavy spatial warping as a movement option. I'm not completely sure the ablitys would even make sense if used in real space sense there so based on the confines of the anolious realm, which makes me think it dosen't really need to say it only works in the area you find it if that's apparent, also I thought it dispelled illusions?
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Both the item description and it`s description when it appeared says that it let`s the user see the true essence of things which should be more than merely dispelling illusions. Daffodills ability is also described as perceiving layers of essence across time and space so idk if it's just illusions. Also these things seem more tangible and real than mere illusions imo
Darkmon_cns said:
Well the fact the MC wondered that question implies it isn't necessary for you to know your doing that. Would removing your own memories to escape your past not be seeking out escapism? She just dosen't know it.
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Well then it would only let the past MC inside because the present MC is not the one who seeks escape from reality. It's not like the people who once entered the Corridor with a escapist mindset and left it wiht only half of thier soul can just enter it again because they once sought escape. But ig it's too little for dimensional travel.

Anyway we can probably also get limited teleportation with the Phone Booths, Traveler from genshin also has this because of the teleport points
 
Monosc said:
Both the item description and it`s description when it appeared says that it let`s the user see the true essence of things which should be more than merely dispelling illusions. Daffodills ability is also described as perceiving layers of essence across time and space so idk if it's just illusions. Also these things seem more tangible and real than mere illusions imo

Well then it would only let the past MC inside because the present MC is not the one who seeks escape from reality. It's not like the people who once entered the Corridor with a escapist mindset and left it wiht only half of thier soul can just enter it again because they once sought escape. But ig it's too little for dimensional travel.

Anyway we can probably also get limited teleportation with the Phone Booths, Traveler from genshin also has this because of the teleport points
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1 I think you have a point I'm convinced, tho I'm unsure if it's really changing anything or just letting the MC persistently see it after use. It definitely dose also dispelled illusions tho.

2 idk what to tell you. The game just proves this wrong. She's taken in on the boat like persumable everyone else who entered did, implying it is the anomoly which got her in which means the game disagrees with you- the game says "yes this dose count actually" at least for the entry requirement. She definitely didn't mean to go there and the scarlet letter wasn't expecting her to either so there not responsible. The only party left is the anomoly and the reasoning I've given is essentially the only thing the game could mean.

Edit: I got a little frustrated writing this section sorry about that

3 ok fast travel is fun the fact it dosen't work well your wanted by the law is funny.
 
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Idk how to put this but the anomoly eclipse seems to have created weekends. Nor do I know how to quantify this. There is also a segment where she seems like she's about to do something to the city
But I couldn't say what the scene is unfortunately too vauge to say.
 
Monosc said:
Anyway we can probably also get limited teleportation with the Phone Booths, Traveler from genshin also has this because of the teleport points
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Anyway I'm really sorry I let things get away from me and got somewhat upset yesterday, I hope I didn't bother you too much
 
Ok so eclipse's eclipse dosen't seem to have the sun behind so it juet seems to be a big energy ball in the sky? But also it moves a bunch of clouds so there must be a way to calc that.. too bad eclipse has no file I around if she'd be above class 5?
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Ok so eclipse's eclipse dosen't seem to have the sun behind so it juet seems to be a big energy ball in the sky? But also it moves a bunch of clouds so there must be a way to calc that.. too bad eclipse has no file I around if she'd be above class 5?
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Yeah Eclipse should be at least above 5 it could probably be higher because MC wondered if she saved the world after stopping eclipse from blowing up the energy ball on the bridge. As for a way to calc it I don't really think it's possible until we know how high the energy ball is. It's not the normal cloud height because when you stand on the sky tower you can see that the clouds and the energy ball are higher than the normal clouds
 
Monosc said:
Yeah Eclipse should be at least above 5 it could probably be higher because MC wondered if she saved the world after stopping eclipse from blowing up the energy ball on the bridge. As for a way to calc it I don't really think it's possible until we know how high the energy ball is. It's not the normal cloud height because when you stand on the sky tower you can see that the clouds and the energy ball are higher than the normal clouds
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Ya but in that scene the ball energy the ball energy dosen't appear in the sky just infront of her and I don't really think you can justify any rating from the Mc wondering to themselves if they saved the world. Remember ifna toer 7 character went on a rampage and just dosen't stop they could too very well "end the world" if everyone else is only tier 8. It's just not very clear what it ment, maybe if we get a file for her in a future update, we got some new ones for stuff already in the game like the weather vine so it is possible. Without a rank we don't have a class for her, and unlike puffy she was 100% under BAC observation, you literally find her in there lobby after all.


Edit: i now realize you ment her anomoly class and weren't saying you thought she was tier 5 oof
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Edit: i now realize you ment her anomoly class and weren't saying you thought she was tier 5 oof
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Lmao I mean we all here are gacha players so we ofc have the gacha player starter pack
No reading comprehension
No memory
No grass touched since last year
🙃
 
Ok then so what other things do we want investigated for calls? Or did someone gather the so far agreedapone ratings so I can try to make a profile in a sandbox?
 
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