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I added potentially because they do not have inherently the role of the Game Master of a fragment since they don't have a territory to govern unlike Territory Lords, though they can asume that position of any fragment like Lambda or Bern did on episode 5 and 8 respectively.

But I don't really mind tbh, given in most if not all fights they'll be fighting inside a universe/fragment without another Game Master
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
But I don't really mind tbh, given in most if not all fights they'll be fighting inside a universe/fragment without another Game Master
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Even them, Voyagers may just take control of the Fragment regardless, as it was what Bern did in EP7. Voyagers are stupidly overpower in an already ridiculous overpowered verse.
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
I added potentially because they do not have inherently the role of the Game Master of a fragment since they don't have a territory to govern unlike Territory Lords, though they can asume that position of any fragment like Lambda or Bern did on episode 5 and 8 respectively.

But I don't really mind tbh, given in most if not all fights they'll be fighting inside a universe/fragment without another Game Master
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They can just give themselves that position at any time.
 
Actually... the iceberg goes a little more deep.

Thinking about it, Meta-Beings should have resistence to every hax there is through will alone. 💔
 
Does someone have a good explanation of the combat applicability of Lambdadelta's absolute magic? I'm well aware of what it is in concept, but I'm less sure on what it exactly does in a VS scenario.
 
Tarcaver said:
Does someone have a good explanation of the combat applicability of Lambdadelta's absolute magic? I'm well aware of what it is in concept, but I'm less sure on what it exactly does in a VS scenario.
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She gains an inexplicable amount of good luck that make attacks target on her just fail, based on her making her win an "almost absolute certainty".
 
Maybe a weird question

What do you think about morality of the Creator? Is it allow to talk in this forum?

I remembered that some character (maybe Clair) said that the fate is cruel
 
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Nekobako said:
Maybe a weird question

What do you think about morality of the Creator? Is it allow to talk in this forum?

I remembered that some character (maybe Clair) said that the fate is cruel
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None, I imagine. To be beyond all restrictions also means to be free from morality itself.
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
The Creatorhood is a state of existence devoid of thought and will. There is no "morality".
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This is what I thought at first but Beato described the God/Creator with God's love in all creations/phenomena and Maria as the child of holy spirit so the Creator somehow have some reference from Christian God including being goodness? or it's irrelevant?
 
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I don't understand about this

If being someone else's creation (the Creator) lacks free will from being written or fated by the Creator itself so how True form Featherine gained true free will as a higher writer while she's not a Creator and still a creation of the Creator?
 
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Nekobako said:
I don't understand about this

If being someone else's creation (the Creator) lacks free will from being written or fated by the Creator itself so how True form Featherine gained true free will as a higher writer while she's not a Creator and still a creation of the Creator?
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Well firstly that's not an entirely correct view of the statement in a way. The way I see it is that Witches have self-awareness and gradually shed the restrictions on their being through the ladder.


For example, beatrice first became free from her own identity - BEFORE enveloping the whole island. Then she became a territory lord. So now she has free will over her territory. For someone like Bernkastel, they shed the restriction over territories and so on. Now they have free will to interfere with any script they choose.
So the "pieces" they create, don't have total free will but still possess a degree of intentionality. That leads to the initial claim that they can ascend.

So being a creation, doesn't entirely exclude you from "doing stuff" on your own accord.
Featherine in this case does have free will and with it chooses to subject herself to Life and Death and identity so she just doesn't "disperse into clouds" however that statement goes. So she's not eternally bored like Creators (although it's implied a creator's boredom is actually bliss apparently.)
"Eternal bliss means eternal boredom. That's the beginning of eternal torture. But it all depends on how you look at it. Eternal boredom is the same as a sketchbook that doesn't run out of pages. It means you can draw whatever you want, can try to have as much fun as you want. Boredom is the worst sort of poison, which kills all witches. Even those Great Witches who are given the title 'Lady' fear it. It's the eternal poison that tortures them because of the eternal bliss they've reached..."
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Guardian_Doge said:
Well firstly that's not an entirely correct view of the statement in a way. The way I see it is that Witches have self-awareness and gradually shed the restrictions on their being through the ladder.


For example, beatrice first became free from her own identity - BEFORE enveloping the whole island. Then she became a territory lord. So now she has free will over her territory. For someone like Bernkastel, they shed the restriction over territories and so on. Now they have free will to interfere with any script they choose.
So the "pieces" they create, don't have total free will but still possess a degree of intentionality. That leads to the initial claim that they can ascend.

So being a creation, doesn't entirely exclude you from "doing stuff" on your own accord.
Featherine in this case does have free will and with it chooses to subject herself to Life and Death and identity so she just doesn't "disperse into clouds" however that statement goes. So she's not eternally bored like Creators (although it's implied a creator's boredom is actually bliss apparently.)
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That sounds strange for me when fate (which is not the case for a single outcome like Jojo part 5) granted a degree of intentionality and doesn't work in absolute sense because I thought Omnipotent being is "the source of all possible outcomes" that should makes the fate from such a being works in absolute sense

but ok
 
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After I saw "relevancy league" for 999th times. I know that it's just a ragebait but I can't-

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Nekobako said:
That sounds strange for me when fate (which is not the case for a single outcome like Jojo part 5) granted a degree of intentionality and doesn't work in absolute sense because I thought Omnipotent being is "the source of all possible outcomes" that should makes the fate from such a being works in absolute sense

but ok
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Ah well yeah, personally I don’t mind it all that much because I do think featherine reached the point of being a creator. And she retained that sort of authority over her own will.

And that’s kind of important I guess. To be able to write about herself, is the most significant thing to being an author. It’s true self-expression. So she’s able to do that without the burden of creating the entire story.
 
I think every Meta-Being should have something like "Self-Subjective Reality, Self-Information Manipulation & Self-Conceptual Manipulation" alongside their Shapeshifting via they being capable of defining who they are and what they are on a conceptual level.
 
Close your eyes and make a wish

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This was a CRT I had been planning to make a few weeks ago, but due to being busy and the lack of moderation, I have been postponing it. Either way, the current state of 07th Expansion on the wiki is completely pitiful. I do not think this is a secret to anyone, but the problem reaches a point...
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HigashikataJobin said:
I think every Meta-Being should have something like "Self-Subjective Reality, Self-Information Manipulation & Self-Conceptual Manipulation" alongside their Shapeshifting via they being capable of defining who they are and what they are on a conceptual level.
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Btw I agree yes. That's a clever way of indexing it.
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
Close your eyes and make a wish

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This was a CRT I had been planning to make a few weeks ago, but due to being busy and the lack of moderation, I have been postponing it. Either way, the current state of 07th Expansion on the wiki is completely pitiful. I do not think this is a secret to anyone, but the problem reaches a point...
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Rest in peace, my beloved Umineko. I will wait in the Oblivion until Twilight
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
Close your eyes and make a wish

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Get Battler'ed Lmao | Deletion of 07th Expansion

This was a CRT I had been planning to make a few weeks ago, but due to being busy and the lack of moderation, I have been postponing it. Either way, the current state of 07th Expansion on the wiki is completely pitiful. I do not think this is a secret to anyone, but the problem reaches a point...
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I'm ok with this though I have to ask, do you think the chances of it returning are high if deletion goes through? (Looks at Shinza and Demonbane)
 
Violatas said:
I'm ok with this though I have to ask, do you think the chances of it returning are high if deletion goes through? (Looks at Shinza and Demonbane)
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As the Witch of Miracles, I guarantee you that no miracle capable of preventing the verse’s reintroduction is going to occur.
 
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