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NEVERNESS TO EVERNESS DISCUSSION THREAD

Ok I'm I going crazy or did the city's calling vastly change so now at any distance all the buildings look plane?
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Heaven's forsaken has weather feats which also usually gets tiers quite high (tier 7 isn't odd) however, it only dose so in a very localized area I think from the context of the reports on it carrys less ground area then a large ish building so I'm not sure what it would come to, I sense those tier 7 feats usually feature weather acting all the way to the horizon, i don't even know if this is a relevant feat.
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There is also this quest where Puff (a snowman anomaly) created a snow storm on a summer day
 
Monosc said:
And the weather covered the entire city and it's surroundings. At least from what I see it does extend all the way to the horizon
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Well only glancing at it he seemed to have needed to prepare by gathering "cold air" how much he needed to prepare probably harms the calculation especially if all the cold air used expressly came from outside of his body (he won't have used internal energy to archive it then) but also he would be a low rank due to being a low threat sense he's not trying to harm anyone, which also makes it impossible to tell where he should actually be in the scaling, I'll have more to say when I find this quest in game myself (was trying to get the gist well avoiding spoilers)
 
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Just to make this clear to anyone who doesn't know


The reason weather feats generally apply to AP it's because the assumption is the energy for that feat is coming from inside your body and since most characters also use internal energy of some sort to fight this translates relatively cleanly to AP the anomalies definitely fall into this category so weather feats should translate to AP.

If the snowman must gather the cold air, I don't know how that affect the calculation. I'll have more to say when I play this quest
 
Darkmon_cns said:
If the snowman must gather the cold air, I don't know how that affect the calculation. I'll have more to say when I play this quest
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The cold air Puff gathered is negligible. It literally was just 10 cold drink and 10 min ina refrigerator so all the energy used in creating the snow storm should be from Puff himself.
Cold air is just food for Puff like normal food for humans.
 
is it possible for anomalies to get AE 2? Since they're manifestation of human emotion. It's kinda similar to curse spirit in jjk.
 
DenzOnigiri said:
is it possible for anomalies to get AE 2? Since they're manifestation of human emotion. It's kinda similar to curse spirit in jjk.
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Probably there are also rule based anomalies who are manifestation of rules and it also states that what matters isn't their physical form but it's the rules
 
Ok on anomaly nature

From the tomato devil quest we know anomalys "latch on" to ideas or concepts even if it's just online discourse but the anomaly itself isn't necessarily thst discourse it's just connected to it and manifesting in that way

From the frizzle fry beast quest we know separate manifesting of the same anomaly aren't the same entity even if they manifest with the same starting knowledge and memories. (The fry beast in it's quest dosen't want to leave this world after experiencing it for as long as he dose but thinks sharing the joys of fried is important too, yet other instances of that Anomaly still appear and give out frys)

The characters can not interact with the true form of the anomaly itself in anyway, there would certainly be plenty of motivation to stop bosses from respawning byt no mention of such a intitive exists

I think the implications of this are followed, when we best the boss headless rider snd a new one appears, the headless rider we beat did not "regenerate" the anomaly created a whole new avatar.

As well these avatars don't have unique phyologys, that would belong to the anomaly itself rather object and bio anomalys are made of exactly what's on the tin, bio anomalys are made of biology and object anomalys are those objects, they are just connected to the otherworldly force that is the anomaly.

What do others think of this? Dose anyone else see any other implications? Anyone disagree completely?
 
Of course there is still alot we don't know like for example

What would happen if morphix was physically destoryed?

Would the dog suddenly reappear elsewhere at some point with all his memories intact just fine?

Would the dog reappear but only have memories as he was when he was first connected to the anomaly?

Or would the anomaly find another somewhat similar dog to connected to and effectively grant super powers to?

There is precedent in the game for all 3, if it works like level proliferation- when the anomaly is nullified either by using the elevator to explore the anomaly realm it gose to, or by smashing the elevator- it'll eventually attach to a new elevator that meets the conditions (the file dosen't actually say there can only be one at a time, but it also dosen't mention there being 2 at once) if morphix worked like this we could persume it would attach to a new similar dog

However there is also the instance of the cake anomaly in ellie bakery quest in bridge crossing, where the odditys responsible for the effects of the anomaly seemingly (or at least claim to) still exist after being nullified just elsewhere only coming here to eat people's emotions via cake. (It even is familiar enough with this process to confidently claim this a mutually beneficial arrangement that it has partaken in several times)

However if it's works like frizle you might expect the new dog to just manifest without amy unique memories the prior dog had, maybe even only with memories it had when it was connected to the anomaly, we just don't know for sure
 
Darkmon_cns said:
What do others think of this? Dose anyone else see any other implications? Anyone disagree completely?
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I think they also said about the security anomaly from the auction house that the anomaly that we met in physical form (yk this flying blue thing) is just a projection from the anomaly and harming it is meaningless and won't affect the anomaly itself.
 
Monosc said:
I think they also said about the security anomaly from the auction house that the anomaly that we met in physical form (yk this flying blue thing) is just a projection from the anomaly and harming it is meaningless and won't affect the anomaly itself.
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Well in her case isn't it a location anomaly? So the proper manifestation of the anomaly is the location not that projection, she isn't the avatar of the anomaly the location is
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Well in her case isn't it a location anomaly? So the proper manifestation of the anomaly is the location not that projection, she isn't the avatar of the anomaly the location is
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Well then looks like the projection of an anomaly has a projections of it's own.

AnywaysNantani seems to be a special anomaly because the manifestation (the location) seems to be indestructible like the real anomalies. We know this because the old location was a castle and it fell into ruin/got destroyed and Nantani still exists. So it seems Nantani isn't just the location but the space itself in the area. I think it could be that the space is an intersection of the human world and whatever realm the real anomalies exist which would make Nantani the real anomaly. It should be plausible because Nantani shares the characteristics that we assigned to real anomalies e.g. creating manifestation, being independent from these manifestation and being undestructible.
 
Didn't the glossar also say that Nantani is the space itself at the location instead of being the location? I may be wrong but I can't check because I am not hime yet
 
We don't really know how "durable" a real anomaly is or if place and Jules can even exist where it exists, there is alot we don't know
 
Monosc said:
Didn't the glossar also say that Nantani is the space itself at the location instead of being the location? I may be wrong but I can't check because I am not hime yet
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I only have 51 of the 52 and don't see anything like that, it's anomaly file dose say it is an area however.


Curiously risk assessment also says the area is "nearly inescapable" well rules are active, perhaps the berua has a way out? Wouldn't surprise me she can't be the only anomaly with a no leaving power
 
Darkmon_cns said:
We don't really know how "durable" a real anomaly is or if place and Jules can even exist where it exists, there is alot we don't know
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I mean we lowkey don`t know anything. We literally don`t even know for certain what anomalies are😭
So ig we just have to wait till we know more
 
Darkmon_cns said:
I only have 51 of the 52 and don't see anything like that, it's anomaly file dose say it is an area however.


Curiously risk assessment also says the area is "nearly inescapable" well rules are active, perhaps the berua has a way out? Wouldn't surprise me she can't be the only anomaly with a no leaving power
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But as I mentioned it would make more sense for it to be the space itself because the original location got detroyed and Nantani still exists so it doesn`t seem like it is bound by an location. In comparison other location anomalies like the Fortune Shades are clearly bound to a real location e.g. the tree in this case instead of the space itself which Nantani seems to be.

And the profile of Nantani in the glossar is lowkey as inconsistent as hoyo writers😭 because directly above it they mention how it is impossible to escape the space and escape is meaningless. So how is it only nearly inescapable when they said a few lines above that it is literally impossible
 
Monosc said:
But as I mentioned it would make more sense for it to be the space itself because the original location got detroyed and Nantani still exists so it doesn`t seem like it is bound by an location. In comparison other location anomalies like the Fortune Shades are clearly bound to a real location e.g. the tree in this case instead of the space itself which Nantani seems to be.

And the profile of Nantani in the glossar is lowkey as inconsistent as hoyo writers😭 because directly above it they mention how it is impossible to escape the space and escape is meaningless. So how is it only nearly inescapable when they said a few lines above that it is literally impossible
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You have to consider unreliable narrators in universe and the fact it has restricted clearance. Likely someone outside of the circle (the grand faction anomaly hunters fall under) could only read part of the profile. Escape being meaningless is a lie because it gaurds very valuable treasure it is propaganda- the risk acessment has the truth in it. Because if the anomaly ever went hostile they have to deal with it.
 
I agree she seems to be attached to a location in space, rather then an object in space, it's not impossible all location anomalys work like that and it's just most obvious here sense the orgianl structure she was in is gone now if that means it is somehow the true anomaly well like many things we can't really say
 
Hey I'm 90% sure the Mc us also an anomaly but an esper at the same time

We can talk to a anomolys, anomolys can also talk to eachother. We have a zero on the scale, yet esters are positive on the scale and anomolys are negative... if say a -7 and a 7 were on the scale it be zero. What do you all think?
 
DenzOnigiri said:
thx btw where do i read all the data about anomalies?
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In the phone menu there is an index option, that has the anomaly files in it i have 58 of 60 something unlocked but I still have some side quests to do still managed to finish all the main quests
 
What are y`alls favourite activity to spend city stamina on? Mine is probably fishing because it`s the only activity that you can do while also doing dailies for another gacha game (I play other gacha games to be precise I have 7 other accounts. I play uma musume, wuwa, hsr, hi3, zzz and gi (i have two genshin accounts) do not ask me why I play so many. ig I just love wasting my time)
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Hey I'm 90% sure the Mc us also an anomaly but an esper at the same time

We can talk to a anomolys, anomolys can also talk to eachother. We have a zero on the scale, yet esters are positive on the scale and anomolys are negative... if say a -7 and a 7 were on the scale it be zero. What do you all think?
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I'm still curious why the mc didn't get affected by the vortex in the early introduction
 
DenzOnigiri said:
probably races as for now since that's the only thing ive been playing.

btw not gonna ask why, instead how many hours do u play all those game everyday 😭?
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Most of the time 1-2 hours for the dailies but sometimes 3 to do the weekly things (divergent universe, hollow zero, ER)
 
Caol3108 said:
I'm still curious why the mc didn't get affected by the vortex in the early introduction
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Well the game dose say on it's file some espers were resistance and looking at the core didn't affect people but it's "halo" ~~but I also think she's part of that anomaly so maybe that's it~~
 
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Monosc said:
What are y`alls favourite activity to spend city stamina on? Mine is probably fishing because it`s the only activity that you can do while also doing dailies for another gacha game (I play other gacha games to be precise I have 7 other accounts. I play uma musume, wuwa, hsr, hi3, zzz and gi (i have two genshin accounts) do not ask me why I play so many. ig I just love wasting my time)
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Still trying to spend mine strategic, so i mostly do deliveries then try finishing st the end to use them all up. Sense you know that levels up one of the house items
 
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Sea prisoner has alot of promising elements it has a storm seemingly happening as far we can see tirggerign at the halfway point of the boss and a large anomalous relam..
However a few issues that makes mw hesitant to even mention jt

Thw whale wants the player to kill or at least the file implies that. It is imprisoned by the harpoon. Anomaly attached to it and is luring people there so someone can end it's suffering if it's actually trying to kill you or just making you think it dose is really in question as well who's to say the whale is causing the storm and not the harpoon? Which is what made and I assume controls the relam were not fighting the harpoon After all.. I don't feel like this one can really be used dispite promising elements for rankings.
 
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