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Bro resisted energy manipulation while my daughter didn't
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Granblue Fantasy Discussion thread 3
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Nah
CRT ain't CRTing anymore
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interesting.
Clarisse alchemy of dissolution even if not erasing the target completely can nullify regeneration that is based on primal beast and incorporated with primal beast regeneration
that is at least low godly regen assuming it only works on these chimera
mid godly if we are being a little whimsy
though this is something matter manipulation can do anyway lmao but at least we know it can still negate regen without relying on erasing or deconstructing
Clarisse alchemy of dissolution even if not erasing the target completely can nullify regeneration that is based on primal beast and incorporated with primal beast regeneration
that is at least low godly regen assuming it only works on these chimera
mid godly if we are being a little whimsy
though this is something matter manipulation can do anyway lmao but at least we know it can still negate regen without relying on erasing or deconstructing
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So this is at least after Mireille and Risette event
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Also alchemy is capable of interacting with primal core, mainly how those chimera were able to get that primal regeneration plus we do have a confirmation that a certain alchemist did combine a core and a philosopher stone
Not that much but.... Still
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i guess we can argue mid godly regen since it negates its regeneration to the physical level completely even if the regeneration is based on core and concept
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Using another character who will summon ANOTHER character who will fight for u lmao.
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i still need to make Lyria's profile
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so uh
the collab
I was only expecting 5-A
But there seems to be some larger scale in play
This is post FLB Clarisse
Post Society introduction
Post Alchemist Desire
Ghandagoza is also in the cameo
and revenant weapons are mentioned alongside moon machines like sealed weapons and such
i believe this can have a likely 1-C via the Jannat King's Arsenal
the collab
I was only expecting 5-A
But there seems to be some larger scale in play
This is post FLB Clarisse
Post Society introduction
Post Alchemist Desire
Ghandagoza is also in the cameo
and revenant weapons are mentioned alongside moon machines like sealed weapons and such
i believe this can have a likely 1-C via the Jannat King's Arsenal
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Ok i just checked some fate episode and uh the timeline is assumed to be after Home Sweet Moon
as Farah and Juri is using their Society Armors
This might just put them all at flat 4-A via Grace downscaling
Also GReed Fate Episode has him talking with Alanaan so yeah this timeline is consistent with the 4-A scaling
as Farah and Juri is using their Society Armors
This might just put them all at flat 4-A via Grace downscaling
Also GReed Fate Episode has him talking with Alanaan so yeah this timeline is consistent with the 4-A scaling
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I'd say L2c at best for the king and Clarisse, 4A scaling comes from sealed weapons users at base and society members without sealed weapons massively downscales from them.
And since alanaan appear as a Bishop this is after his 5★ uncap though alanaan wasn't part of the battle this is captain after battling pre 1C the sun
And since alanaan appear as a Bishop this is after his 5★ uncap though alanaan wasn't part of the battle this is captain after battling pre 1C the sun
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Clarisse already has her own scaling just no profile.
The existential dissolution is more so a hax but still strong enough that it duranegs almost anything including space etc
i don't think anyone scales to her there
So yeah everyone is just 4-A
The King is in a weird spot if we make him l2-c in his philosopher's stone form
Then that would mean other people as well, who fought him
at best we can just argue he is that tough with all the stuff he has until they start weakening him over and over like destroying the cubes or cutting off his power etc.
He did manage to avoid Clarisse using existential dissolution when he was still an old man. so speed scaling is there
The existential dissolution is more so a hax but still strong enough that it duranegs almost anything including space etc
i don't think anyone scales to her there
So yeah everyone is just 4-A
The King is in a weird spot if we make him l2-c in his philosopher's stone form
Then that would mean other people as well, who fought him
at best we can just argue he is that tough with all the stuff he has until they start weakening him over and over like destroying the cubes or cutting off his power etc.
He did manage to avoid Clarisse using existential dissolution when he was still an old man. so speed scaling is there
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They scaled to 4-A cause of Juri and Farah, who were holding their own against Grace
Captain backseated like most events where they don't wanna address his strength
still it took protobaha to kill it in the end so that is at least 4-A even when weakened which is just right
initially i thought 5-A to 4-C knowing Xeno + many other things like Ghandagoza
but they had to use Anti-Primal Rounds which are effective even against automagod like Pyet-A
there is also the fact that the same power that fueled the 4 xeno bosses are the same power that grants the alchemical beast regenerative factors and the fact that the Jannat king is aware of Revenant weapons (probably their old versions which is weaker) and Moon weapons + jorha
I don't really want to give Clarisse l2-C from existential dissolution alone since it is a hax that i believe can even go up to low 1-C range since it actually leads not to the fabric underneath which is the supernal realm
but actualy emptiness similar to shiva's feat
Clarisse simply have that hax but not the physical stats
still it took protobaha to kill it in the end so that is at least 4-A even when weakened which is just right
initially i thought 5-A to 4-C knowing Xeno + many other things like Ghandagoza
but they had to use Anti-Primal Rounds which are effective even against automagod like Pyet-A
there is also the fact that the same power that fueled the 4 xeno bosses are the same power that grants the alchemical beast regenerative factors and the fact that the Jannat king is aware of Revenant weapons (probably their old versions which is weaker) and Moon weapons + jorha
I don't really want to give Clarisse l2-C from existential dissolution alone since it is a hax that i believe can even go up to low 1-C range since it actually leads not to the fabric underneath which is the supernal realm
but actualy emptiness similar to shiva's feat
Clarisse simply have that hax but not the physical stats
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We also did know grace wasn't going all out even when she faced yodarha and could still also overpower captain
Speaking about bahamut that's an unchained proto baha so not 4A, unchained generally goes up to 1C
The anti primal rounds was mainly just to stop their regeneration since they couldn't deal significantly damage and still couldn't stop their regeneration, but anyways
Well knowing about revenant weapon isn't an issue since the king was alive during the astral invasion and revenant was made during that period
Well yeah, but hax can still scale to AP since it does actual destruction.
Anyhow, this event just inconsistent ( like always) in terms of scaling
Speaking about bahamut that's an unchained proto baha so not 4A, unchained generally goes up to 1C
The anti primal rounds was mainly just to stop their regeneration since they couldn't deal significantly damage and still couldn't stop their regeneration, but anyways
Well knowing about revenant weapon isn't an issue since the king was alive during the astral invasion and revenant was made during that period
Well yeah, but hax can still scale to AP since it does actual destruction.
Anyhow, this event just inconsistent ( like always) in terms of scaling
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Well, the Bahamut kill was a kill hit, so I don't think he would scale to it eitherway
We can still give Clarisse and Jannat King Low 1-C via dissolution
Though my problem is that Clarisse does it on areas rather than the entirety of a realm, so it wouldn't really scale to low 1-C potency, unlike Shiva
Anti-primal rounds also have higher firepower, so there is that, and actually helped the regular grunts to subdue stronger enemies and primal beasts way easier
So it is still a significant upgrade, just something that only upgrades their potency and has been used since the Second Advent
Yeah, it was inconsistent since there seems to be an attempt to upsell the Final Boss by name-dropping artifacts.
We also have to note that even before Anti-Primal rounds become accessible and such. Society members already contributed in 000 in subduing fallen angels that got revived from the cores inside Avatar (Those cherubs and stuff are actually primal beast smh)
So tbf 4-A simply just has too many chainscaling. Since the original AP feat comes from Europa, which isn't something created for war, and simply something Zeus gave birth to by splitting his core or something
We can still give Clarisse and Jannat King Low 1-C via dissolution
Though my problem is that Clarisse does it on areas rather than the entirety of a realm, so it wouldn't really scale to low 1-C potency, unlike Shiva
Anti-primal rounds also have higher firepower, so there is that, and actually helped the regular grunts to subdue stronger enemies and primal beasts way easier
So it is still a significant upgrade, just something that only upgrades their potency and has been used since the Second Advent
Yeah, it was inconsistent since there seems to be an attempt to upsell the Final Boss by name-dropping artifacts.
We also have to note that even before Anti-Primal rounds become accessible and such. Society members already contributed in 000 in subduing fallen angels that got revived from the cores inside Avatar (Those cherubs and stuff are actually primal beast smh)
So tbf 4-A simply just has too many chainscaling. Since the original AP feat comes from Europa, which isn't something created for war, and simply something Zeus gave birth to by splitting his core or something
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Well at least the rest who chainscale from 4A actually have solid feats, but then again giving the king anything less than L2c would be ignoring the timeline, but event just had to be inconsistent. So maybe L1c but since I don't have Clarisse so her affecting the supernal plane is off to me then mid ASF durability
And then AGAIN he did kapow the FMA cast with existential which would give them L1C durability
I'd say we just ignore this scaling for the event
And then AGAIN he did kapow the FMA cast with existential which would give them L1C durability
I'd say we just ignore this scaling for the event
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FMA cast dodged it and simply grazed them and we didn't know if the JAnnat king actually tanked it seeing the body is actually weak af as old manWell at least the rest who chainscale from 4A actually have solid feats, but then again giving the king anything less than L2c would be ignoring the timeline, but event just had to be inconsistent. So maybe L1c but since I don't have Clarisse so her affecting the supernal plane is off to me then mid ASF durability
And then AGAIN he did kapow the FMA cast with existential which would give them L1C durability
I'd say we just ignore this scaling for the event
Existential dissolution is just that strong with how it erases almost anything and FLB clarisse tuned it further that it can even erase the container that is reality causing things to spill and in the most clarisse fashion she fixed it by also erasing the hole in the container somehow returning it to normal (don't ask me how that even makes sense)
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don't think it was absorbed
it resulted in an explosion, so at least
i think what Clarisse attempted to do is to erase the attack the dude is about to launch since he was charging up
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Yes
Bel is Belmervolk
she's uh chummy with us for some reason
the ending confirmed it when he spawned Belmervolk's Arms as tower
i guess Odious might be different from Demons afterall
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wah
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